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True Confession: I'd never heard of Charlie Kirk before last Wednesday

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11:14a, 9/16/25
For a much as I post on F16, I do not follow many influencers or pundits on social media. I just read the news. So when i saw the news flash on Wednesday, I had to google Charlie Kirk.

I suppose many followed him very closely, because his killing has affected them deeply. A lady at church was in tears this weekend as if a family member had lost their life. I found it - unusual.

Perhaps those we follow online, who we have never met, can become very close to us. It's clear there are many who are deeply affected by this senseless killing. I don't judge - I'm just a little confused by it all.

Anyone else here somewhat surprised by the level of grief over his killing?
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11:37a, 9/16/25
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I knew of him, but have enough podcasts that I never really paid attention to him on his own other than when he overlapped with ones I was listening to already.

I have found a lot of the younger guys at work were harder hit. I think the debating that we grew up with is gone from younger generations, but he was trying to bring back discussing facts instead of shouting your truth. I still enjoy debating with the resident leftist at work. I'm not going to change his mind, but we still get along and work great together.

It is also one of the first times I can remember you can scroll the internet and just see someone be killed.
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11:39a, 9/16/25
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11:42a, 9/16/25
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In reply to fc2112 • 11:45a, 9/16/25
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fc2112 said:
For a much as I post on F16, I do not follow many influencers or pundits on social media. I just read the news. So when i saw the news flash on Wednesday, I had to google Charlie Kirk.

I suppose many followed him very closely, because his killing has affected them deeply. A lady at church was in tears this weekend as if a family member had lost their life. I found it - unusual.

Perhaps those we follow online, who we have never met, can become very close to us. It's clear there are many who are deeply affected by this senseless killing. I don't judge - I'm just a little confused by it all.

Anyone else here somewhat surprised by the level of grief over his killing?

No. Many of us share a lot of the same beliefs as Charlie. A deranged, leftist loon killed him for publicly speaking those beliefs and engaging the left in civil debate and a bunch of other deranged leftist loons celebrated his death.

If they believe he deserved to die for those beliefs, they believe the same about the rest of us who share those beliefs.

It's not just grief. It's also anger, contempt, and disgust at those who would abandon their humanity and desire to kill people for thinking differently than them.
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In reply to fc2112 • 11:47a, 9/16/25
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Dude I didn't read anything but the thread title!


Cool. Check ya later.
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In reply to fc2112 • 11:51a, 9/16/25
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fc2112 said:
Anyone else here somewhat surprised by the level of grief over his killing?

I'm not surprised at all. He was a Christian man who spoke openly about it and how a country should actually progress instead of devolve into chaos. He was a very important figure for young men, especially on college campuses and he was leading a political movement quietly. I have no doubt that if he had survived, his influence would have continued to grow and the generational change would have been significant.

Not sure where it goes now, but I think we have just lost a steadying voice for young men. Some of those young men will now gravitate towards other powerful voices who were not as good a person with as great a message as Charlie Kirk.

More than that, it is a reflection of the divide in our country and the glaringly obvious nature of the left and progressivism. They have become a cancer to the country. The fruits of postmodern philosophy is apparent to anyone with half a brain. I hope America survives it.
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12:33p, 9/16/25
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Another Charlie Kirk thread for F16ers to pile on "the left." Just what the GB needed. And I'd never heard of him either. He was apparently spoofed on South Park (i.e. had some degree of fame), but I haven't watched that show in 20 years.
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In reply to dabo man • 12:39p, 9/16/25
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Nobody is forcing anyone to participate or even read it, dude. Still a free country.
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12:42p, 9/16/25
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I didn't recognize the name. I did sort of recognize his picture. I had a coworker ask me who he was, as well.
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In reply to Slicer97 • 12:45p, 9/16/25
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I stay off of F16 because such a significant portion of the posters are unstable. I had my TexAgs lunch a month ago, and a good chunk of the discussion was about people who had been doxed because of something they posted on F16. Tanya once had an F16er find out where she taught, call her principal, and attempt to have hire fired.

Not the group of people I want to see together on the GB.
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In reply to fc2112 • 12:54p, 9/16/25
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To answer the question in your OP, yes, quite surprised. And I'm surprised at the amount of space it has taken up in my own brain, too, although I'm sure it's for different reasons.
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12:56p, 9/16/25
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I only knew who he was from what I've seen on the politics board. My wife had no idea who he was and I'm sure most people that don't regularly follow politics didn't either.
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In reply to fc2112 • 1:27p, 9/16/25
fc2112 said:
For a much as I post on F16, I do not follow many influencers or pundits on social media. I just read the news. So when i saw the news flash on Wednesday, I had to google Charlie Kirk.

I suppose many followed him very closely, because his killing has affected them deeply. A lady at church was in tears this weekend as if a family member had lost their life. I found it - unusual.

Perhaps those we follow online, who we have never met, can become very close to us. It's clear there are many who are deeply affected by this senseless killing. I don't judge - I'm just a little confused by it all.

Anyone else here somewhat surprised by the level of grief over his killing?

Same. I had never heard his name before, although I did recognize his face. I had no idea the level of influence he had. I thought I was pretty in tune with all the conservative voices out there on social media like Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, Tucker Carlson etc.
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In reply to Texag5324 • 1:43p, 9/16/25
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It seems like he focused on the younger demographic / college aged kids, so that might be why.
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In reply to 713nervy • 1:49p, 9/16/25
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It seems like he focused on the younger demographic / college aged kids, so that might be why.

A lot of my friends in the 38-46 year old range knew of him and were big fans. One of my 40 year old friends even cried after he passed.
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In reply to dabo man • 1:57p, 9/16/25
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I stay off of F16 because such a significant portion of the posters are unstable. I had my TexAgs lunch a month ago, and a good chunk of the discussion was about people who had been doxed because of something they posted on F16. Tanya once had an F16er find out where she taught, call her principal, and attempt to have hire fired.

Not the group of people I want to see together on the GB.

Was it ever discovered who did that?
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
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In reply to dabo man • 2:05p, 9/16/25
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dabo man said:
Another Charlie Kirk thread for F16ers to pile on "the left." Just what the GB needed. And I'd never heard of him either. He was apparently spoofed on South Park (i.e. had some degree of fame), but I haven't watched that show in 20 years.


It says his name in the title yet you still not only clicked on it you posted in it as well. You apparently haven't had enough yet lol
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In reply to Bruce Almighty • 3:46p, 9/16/25
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I only knew who he was from what I've seen on the politics board. My wife had no idea who he was and I'm sure most people that don't regularly follow politics didn't either.

I follow zero politics, but his videos were always coming up on my facebook scrolls the last couple years, and I usually watched them. Ben Shapiro as well.
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4:00p, 9/16/25
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I'd heard his name, but before last week I wouldn't have been able to tell you anything about him except I knew he was somehow involved in politics.

The way he was killed is so shocking and horrific that I'm not surprised how much it's affected people who closely followed him. Parasocial relationships are very real and can be intense. If I listened to someone every single day for years and they were suddenly gone like that, I would be upset by it too.
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In reply to fc2112 • 5:12p, 9/16/25
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Anyone else here somewhat surprised by the level of grief over his killing?

Given he was assassinated in the United States for advocating for Christian and conservative values? No. It should shock and grieve any American.

I am also grieved at the level of celebration over his killing. I can understand that the shooter may have been mentally unstable, but the people agreeing with it seem pretty normal. Like school teachers and nurses.

I never listened to any of his talks or debates, but I am now. And find myself agreeing with pretty much all of it. Pretty boiler plate Christian/conservative stuff. I don't know what to think about normal, everyday Americans thinking I should be dead because of my religious and family values. They're not extreme or anything.
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6:00p, 9/16/25
I think more people are mourning the fact that half of the country is okay with murdering them. Alot of people are realizing that the country they thought they lived in doesnt actually exist.

I think alot of people are in shock as to what a plurality of our society is, what it supports, and what they'll do.
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8:09p, 9/16/25
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I had never heard of him either but if you can't have sympathy for his wife and children witnessing his bloody assassination in person then you are not human.
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In reply to 713nervy • 8:19p, 9/16/25
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It seems like he focused on the younger demographic / college aged kids, so that might be why.

So do I, but in more of a mp4 type format via vpn (thanks alot abbott). Seems he was more the in person type. To each their own.
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In reply to dabo man • 8:44p, 9/16/25
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I stay off of F16 because such a significant portion of the posters are unstable. I had my TexAgs lunch a month ago, and a good chunk of the discussion was about people who had been doxed because of something they posted on F16. Tanya once had an F16er find out where she taught, call her principal, and attempt to have hire fired.

Not the group of people I want to see together on the GB.


WTF!!!
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8:49p, 9/16/25
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I recognized his name, but he never came up in any of my feeds. Granted I have been trying to cut back on social media the last year or so.

I think one can have sympathy for his family without being deeply moved.
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10:54p, 9/16/25
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A friend and I went to Turning Point USA headquarters today.



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In reply to King of the Dairy Queen • 11:51p, 9/16/25
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King of the Dairy Queen said:
I think more people are mourning the fact that half of the country is okay with murdering them. Alot of people are realizing that the country they thought they lived in doesnt actually exist.

I think alot of people are in shock as to what a plurality of our society is, what it supports, and what they'll do.

I don't think half the country feels that way. I do think that there are certain groups in our country that really try to push the left versus right culture war stuff. It is good for business. Makes them a lot of money and helps them get a lot of power. There are extremes on both sides, but I believe most Americans are just trying to get through each day the best they can.


One thing I have noticed that really bothers me is that there are people in our country who seem to be trying to use Charlie's death for their own political reasons or as a way to make a quick buck for themselves. It is a very disrespectful.
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In reply to Mr. Thunderclap McGirthy • 7:18a, 9/17/25
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Mr. Thunderclap McGirthy said:
dabo man said:
I stay off of F16 because such a significant portion of the posters are unstable. I had my TexAgs lunch a month ago, and a good chunk of the discussion was about people who had been doxed because of something they posted on F16. Tanya once had an F16er find out where she taught, call her principal, and attempt to have hire fired.

Not the group of people I want to see together on the GB.


Some of them helped you out with travel expenses and donated to your son's college fund.

A total bunch of degenerate ****s right?

The world is full of good people and bad people. Sometimes good people do bad things.

What we don't do is put a bullet in someone's neck because we don't agree with what they say.

The people that do that will not be too happy when it is their blood that makes the grass grow.


I don't think he's not grateful. Or saying that is all of f16. He's just telling people who don't frequent that board that there are or have been a few posters there who have gone after people irl over posts they didn't like. And that's a fair, and factual, warning.
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In reply to BBRex • 8:41a, 9/17/25
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Ok. I can accept that. The whole world seems like an exposed nerve right now. I'll delete my post and ask you to delete yours.

Time to let bygones be bygones.
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In reply to fc2112 • 10:01a, 9/17/25
fc2112 said:
For a much as I post on F16, I do not follow many influencers or pundits on social media. I just read the news. So when i saw the news flash on Wednesday, I had to google Charlie Kirk.

I suppose many followed him very closely, because his killing has affected them deeply. A lady at church was in tears this weekend as if a family member had lost their life. I found it - unusual.

Perhaps those we follow online, who we have never met, can become very close to us. It's clear there are many who are deeply affected by this senseless killing. I don't judge - I'm just a little confused by it all.

Anyone else here somewhat surprised by the level of grief over his killing?

Conservatives were shaken by his killing, but even more so by the dancing on his grave or the "he had it coming" comments by a large percentage of the Left. Kirk was killed for speaking out on his beliefs and lots of people are ghoulishly cheering it. Kirk's beliefs are not extreme. They are shared by tens of millions of conservatives that now realize how nakedly obvious how much the Left hates them and wouldn't mind seeing them dead too. It's a hard thing to come to terms with; that fellow citizens don't want to just defeat you at the ballot box, they want you gone.
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In reply to 93MarineHorn • 10:15a, 9/17/25
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I know many media outlets would have you believe this, but it just isn't true. Your life is worth just as much as anyone else's regardless of what you believe.
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In reply to 713nervy • 10:30a, 9/17/25
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I know many media outlets would have you believe this, but it just isn't true. Your life is worth just as much as anyone else's regardless of what you believe.


I'm not a Republican or democrat, but I usually check in on Reddit and F16 to get an idea of what the crazy ends of the political spectrum are up to. For the past week there has been a lot of celebrating/gloating and pushing of false narratives on Reddit by the lefties.
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In reply to 713nervy • 10:33a, 9/17/25
713nervy said:
I know many media outlets would have you believe this, but it just isn't true. Your life is worth just as much as anyone else's regardless of what you believe.

It is not media outlets. It's normal, everyday people making social media posts. Acquaintances of mine. People I would not categorize as mentally unstable. Their thoughts range from indifference to outright celebrating what happened to him.
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