New “Bonfire’’ Idea—THE PIT OF FIRE !!!!!!

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Houston Lee
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New Bonfire idea: The Pit of FIre

President Ray Bowen has cited cost, liability, and safety factors as the reasons to discontinue Aggie Bonfire in its present form. Perhaps a 45ft tall stack of 800-1,000 pound logs is not the way of the future. The Aggies maybe still could have their bonfire, but in a different, slightly modified form. Bonfire was a project that brought the University together. The student led project would create a fantastic stack of logs that symbolized the Aggies burning desire to beat Texas (t.u.) The bonfire would attract people from all over Texas. They wanted to view the burning spectacle and they wanted to participate in an atmosphere somewhat like a huge family campfire. Aggies and others would sit around the “campfire” for hours visiting with each other and having a good time. Anything that would replace the bonfire of old, would have to embody the spirit of family, tradition, camaraderie, pride, and in my opinion a “campfire”.

Here is my suggestion.

The students still use the polo fields. But instead of building one huge 45ft tall bonfire, they build twelve smaller bonfires.. Twelve to represent those that died in 1999 and the spirit of Texas A&M in the 12th Man. The smaller bonfires will be placed around the polo fields 50-100 ft apart. They could be about 15 ft-20 ft high. Each with a “centerpole” using a “teepee” or “wedding cake” design. The logs will be thin enough that 1-2 people could lift them. Maybe twice as thick as a flag pole. The idea is to make the mini bonfires small enough that they are not a danger to crush someone, but yet large enough to see from the back of a large crowd. High Schools through out Texas hold bonfires every year and from what I have heard, those bonfires are as big or bigger than 15-20 ft high. If they can do it, so should the Aggies.

In the center of all of the mini-bonfires would be a pit. This pit would become a “pit of fire” or the “BBQ Bevo pit”. This pit would be dug by the Texas A&M students each year. The students would only be allowed to use shovels. The pit would be no deeper than 6 ft and it would be sloped at a 45 degree angle or at an angle acceptable by OSHA regulations. The pit would be 70 ft. in diameter and filled with fire wood. The fire wood would be stacked no higher than the pit and would be coated with a flammable substance like jet fuel or lighter fluid. In the middle of the pit would be a large wooden pole 30 ft. high. The “t.u. outhouse” would be placed on top of the pole, just like with the old bonfire.

A raised platform would be erected overlooking the pit. This would be the platform on which the Yell Leaders and Team/Coaches would lead yell practice.

On Bonfire Night, the lighting of the mini-bonfires would somehow trigger the lighting of the flammable stuff in the pit.

Once the mini-bonfires are all burning and the pit of fire is going and yell practice is over, we then have the “BBQ Bevo” ceremony. This will be the highlight/entertainment for the night.

The BBQ Bevos would be large “life-sized” (5ft tall and 6ft long) paper mache Longhorns (i.e. BEVO). Each dorm or student groups on campus would make their own paper mache Bevo that will be thrown into the pit of fire. These “Bevos” would be decorated in unique ways with slogans and such that exemplify Aggies “Burning desire” to beat the hell out of t.u.” Each dorm or student group would elect representatives to be the one’s to “throw” their Bevo into the pit of fire. Perhaps a special ramp will be created to allow the Bevo to safely “slide” into the pit while the representatives remain at a safe distance. It would all be in good fun and im sure the students could think of some unique and funny ways to design their dorm’s Bevo.

So, in the end you have 12 mini bonfires burning around a pit of fire/Bevo BBQ pit with an outhouse. The mini bonfires would be spaced far enough apart that people/crowds could walk in-between them to view the pit. Each bonfire and the pit would be blocked off to keep people at a safe distance, yet still allow them to get “close” to the “action”. Real BBQ and non-alcoholic beverages could be made available to give the event a “tailgate” type of atmosphere.

Student activities will be to build the 12 bonfires and to dig the pit. This will allow plenty of opportunity for sweating and developing teamwork. Plus, each Dorm/Student Group will participate with their unique “Bevo” that will burn. I can think of some pretty funny ways to make a Bevo.

I call on the current Texas A&M students to form a new bonfire tradition. Perhaps even one like I have outlined here. Keep the fire burning!

David Wallace
Texas A&M class of 1991
Houston, TX

See some computer generated pics of this concept.

www.buzzard-golf.com/pitoffire2002/index.htm




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TBill05
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to be honest with you, thats a wonderful idea

Will Tolliver
The Proudest Member of the Fightin Texas Aggie Class of 2005
JWW7751
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Yea...Everything but the damn paper mache bevos! We're not Waco U, we dont build floats for homecoming!
Goldilocks
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That sounds like you really have something here. Great idea.
B.R.i.c.K.
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Of course as a non-aggie my opinion won't be considered by most here, but as a taxpayer in this state (and fan of OU ) I think it's my right to comment on a huge expenditure and potential liability entered by a public university, and I think that's a proposal I could get behind. Sounds safe and inexpensive. Good forward thinking.
Houston Lee
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Ok, so dont call the Bevos "Sacrifices". But the thought of Bevo after Bevo being tossed into the fire would be fun to watch. Also, the students could get REALLY creative with their BEVOs. It could be VERY funny and slam the sips as well. Imagine how you could rig up some sound effects for your dorm's Bevo--or what you could fill it up with.....
AGSWON
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I'd rather barbeque real Bevos!!!! That would be one hell of a barbeque!
EKG1996
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Sounds like the start of a good idea. When I read your post, I got the same feeling that I got when I first read the first RWB post. Hopefully it can take off like that did.
Keegan99
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I hate to burst your bubble, but you're dreaming if you think the university is going to sanction anything that involves student construction and a bonfire of any sort - no matter how scaled back or modified.

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dkeegan@aggies.com
Kyle Field - Where the 12th Man is a standing tradition, home field advantage is defined, and opponents get Marooned
BTHOB-98
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How about we call it the tu BBQ PITT?





Houston Lee
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Well, I think it would work!! Keep adding to the idea. Something fun to build and something fun to watch!
Keegan99
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Did you listen to Bowen's press conference? Given the legal climate that the University is in, they CANNOT do ANYTHING like this!

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dkeegan@aggies.com
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TexasAg01
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That's what I'm talking about. Great Idea! I think the idea of calling it a tu bbq pit, is perfect. As much as Aggies like to barbeque, can you imagine all of the smoke and aromas coming from the real bbq pits on the perimeter. Hell, I'd drink a few and watch the sacrifices.
pep1
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Fire, Fire, Fire
AggieBud2003
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I think that's awesome that you're thinking about new ideas at this point. I agree that you're idea does sound like a lot of hard work by students and former students. Keep the ideas coming guys!!
BBRex
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I could go for this ...
TXAg04
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That's it Keegan- keep saying it can't be done.


Great idea BQ, seems to answer all the questions.

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Keegan99
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TXAg04 - this proposal can be done off campus, but to expect the University to bless this is just being naive, and demonstrates very little understaning of what Dr. Bowen said today.

I'm all for being positive, but any optimism must be checked by a certain level of pragmatism.

Like it or not, the University would mandate that this project would require engineers, a safety firm, etc. - something which we couldn't even muster for a simple one-tier Bonfire. Building 12 smaller ones along along with a pit would require just as much CYA action by the University, if not more.

If you took this idea to Dr. Bowen tomorrow and said you wanted to do it next fall instead of Bonfire, his response would likely be a mix of confusion, astonishment, and laughter.

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Kyle Field - Where the 12th Man is a standing tradition, home field advantage is defined, and opponents get Marooned

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AggieBud2003
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Alright then Keegan, what would work? You seem like a bright individual who claims to be "all for optimisim" yet all I read is you bashing other's ideas. Quit being such a hater and come up with an idea that would work. Under what paramaters could BQ's ideas work? Could we do the pit w/o the fires? What about Olympic style torches surrounding the pit? What about candles playing a role? Just throwing out suggestions and trying to be supportive unlike some of those on this board...
Houston Lee
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Actually I read his press release. There is HUGE difference between a 45ft tall bonfire and what I am proposing.

I am well aware of OSHA safety regulations regarding digging and trenching. That is why you cap the depth of the pit and slope the sides. This is more of a huge campfire than anything else.

The safety liability for mini bonfires would and should be quite less costly due to their scaled down size --alone!

Plus any massive student activity needs coverage. Take "The Big Event"---this is an annual event where Ags go out and perform CONSTRUCTION activities in the community. Safety is an issue as well. Injuries will happen anywhere.

This idea is just in its infantcy. I dont think it would happen in 2002--and I didnt suggest it would. Im thinking "outside" the box. I want an event/tradition that people will want to come and see. One that they will want to participate in....Like the Bonfire of old, but safer. One that still burns SOMETHING. People want to be entertained. Watching a big stack of wood burning was entertaining. Watching this "event" would be fun too.

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Whistle Jock
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I like the 12 small bonfires but the pit sounds a little like somthing tu would do ie. the Aggie hex candle. Let's keep it positive. BUT this is the best idea I've heard so far and it can be done this year with the new president GIG EM !!
Keegan99
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quote:
Plus any massive student activity needs coverage. Take "The Big Event"---this is an annual event where Ags go out and perform CONSTRUCTION activities in the community. Safety is an issue as well. Injuries will happen anywhere.


I agree wholeheartedly.

However, politics play heavily here. Anything that is seen as a replacement for Bonfire or a 'Bonfiresque' activity will be held to a very different standard, due to the tragic history and public scrutiny. Hence, the need for the extensive CYA.

If Bonfire was held to the same safety standard as Big Event (or even Aggie Football), what was proposed for 2002 wouldn't have cost over two millions dollars and wouldn't have faced any problems getting approved.

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Kyle Field - Where the 12th Man is a standing tradition, home field advantage is defined, and opponents get Marooned
Houston Lee
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People liked coming to Bonfire. It was like a huge campfire. Ags would stay out there for hours and hours just BS-ing around the campfire(bonfire)

So, how do we get the same "warm and fuzzy" feeling without the danger. That is when I thought of the "pit". Like a huge campfire pit. Something large enough to make it a challenge for the student body to "dig". You have to make it hard, so that is why they must only use shovels--no "back-hoe" equipment.

The mini-bonfires just help us remember the old BIG bonfire.

Now, how could we make it more "entertaining"? After yell practice we burn the life-sized BEVOs!! In the BBQ pit!!

This gets the entire student body involved with making their dorm BEVO. Imagine the possibilties! Imagine how much fun it will be to watch! Droping a BEVO into a pit of fire from lets say---a platform 30 ft above?

BOOM! burn baby burn!!

Anyway........

Just imagine the entire scene
12 bonfires surrounding a 50 ft diameter pit of fire--With a platform/scaffold overlooking the pit. Picture Yell PRactice. PIcture the BEVOs being tossed and burning. Get some "tailgate" action going. Cook up some real BBQ and sausages!

With 12 mini bonfires everyone can get close to one of the fires. Sounds like fun to me.........
Reckless Red
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Guys I have never posted but I wandered over here from my Tech boards to see what was up and I have to say this idea is awesome. And I dont see why it wouldnt work. Highschools do bonfires built by students that are higher up that 12 feet. I think all aggies should rally behind this idea becuase it would be one hell of a tradition, remebering the past and also pumping spirit into it. And hey nothing is better than buring a bevo right??
3rd Generation Ag
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Even one mini fire--always made of 12 larger logs and one small one for each of the injured. They might decide it was too hard to police 12. But the pit full of wood is a great idea. Could have a dig and a cut for the wood.
94DCAg
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I like it!
wxguy95
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The only problem is any piping below the surface.

The 12 bonfires could be built by 12 dorms. Perhaps give it to the dorms that have the greatest University participation in other areas. Maybe the first 12 dorm in the previous year's Intramural rankings? Regardless, I think a family representative of each of the fallen Ags should have the honor of lighting their Bonfire.

The other dorms/organizations/students could dig the pit. Instead of the center pole and 'sacrifices', why not have a 15 foot bevo to set on fire in the center. Heck, we have 40,000+ students, why not build a rotissore to 'cook' the bevo under a large fire. Bevo would eventually catch on fire and burn.

Instead of the world's biggest bonfire, we would have the world's biggest cookout
Houston Lee
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I thought of this add-on to my idea while I was at my son's basketball game.

If each of the dorms and student groups make a "life-like" paper mache of Bevo, we would have 50+ bevos. If they were truly "life-like", they would each be about 5 ft tall and 6 ft long.

In the fire pit we have the 30 ft "centerpole" with the t.u. outhouse on top. Why not "stack" all the BEVOs in a "tee pee" like fashion onto the centerpole? Picture 50 some-odd Bevos all straped together in a pile ready for BURNING like a witch tied to the stake.--lol

Just a massive fire of burning BEVOs--haha!

linds02
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I love this idea!!!! It would be great, mixing old tradition with new.
DunnAg04
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This idea is outstanding! I don't need to say why...everyone else already has. My question is this:

How can we best show support for this idea and get it moving around? I know how big TexAgs is, but we gotta do better than that!

Burn the hell!

Shoot '03!
A-A-A-WHOOP!
LOAD 2002
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This is a great idea, and I applaud your thinking out of the box.

The only flaw that I see is that the past bonfire created UNITY. Everyone from many dorms, many corp outfits, and off campus all worked together to build one thing. Everyone gave their sweat for the same stack, the same bonfire, the same project.

This new idea has one pit, but splits everyone up into seperate mini-stacks.

This is a great idea but obviously is still fresh and needs to be polished.


I challenge everyone else to come up with something comparable.
MeredithAggie05
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I think this is a great idea. Whoever made the point that high school students build bonfires bigger than 12 feet is totally right. Each year at my home town high school, the seniors haul thousands of pallets out to a practice field, build an outhouse on a "centerpole", and watch the thing burn. As I see it, organized tiers of logs as BQ is proposing would be much more structurally sound than a bunch of pallets thrown into a 20 ft. pile that dozens of high school kids are scrambling all over...the only injuries were maybe scratches and a couple of splinters. I don't know how they couldn't approve it. Who would we need to talk to about getting the whole thing approved??
abby05
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howdy ags! i just wanted to say that i'm totally lovin some of the ideas proposed by BQ. i think some type of modified bonfire like this would obviously exemplify the aggie spirit that every one of us carries with us. even though i'm only a freshman and i've never actually attended a bonfire, it would greatly sadden me to know that we wont ever have bonfire again. it was truly something i was looking forward to. also, i agree with the comment about if high schools can have bonfires, then we should be able to have several small bonfires as well. so, if anyone knows how or what to do in order to get this moving and get some ideas to get looked into, please post it because i would love to be a part of it. we cant just let something as important as bonfire slip away. thanks and gig 'em!!!
abby05
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okay...so, anyone know the red, white, and blue-out kids? obviously they know how to get something of this magnitude going, who to talk to, etc. seriously...meredithaggie05 (my roomie) and i really want to know how to contact them so we can get something going. so, please...let us know, if you know ANYTHING!!! thanks and gig 'em!
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