Can't wait to see it again!

Not yet.

Sure wish the Texas Speedway on 6 would let it happen!

we have one, thats all i know

Yeah, I heard today that we have one for sure. No clue where it is, but I'll try to find out and let everybody know.

Build The Hell Out'a Bonfire!

I think Speedway is inside city limits of College Station or at least in the ETJ-so "nevah happen".

Note location of fireworks stores-that is just outside the limits of the ETJ, so it would have to be past that point to keep College Stations sticky fingers off it.

facebook group had something posted about having one, but not were it is. They might be trying to protect it for now, dont know what kind of greaf the univ. or local press would give them

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http://www.kbtx.com/home/headlines/3892467.html

One of these years, Student Bonfire is going to get it through their skulls that PR and public perception is important.

If stack is to be in Brazos County, they've now succeeded in pissing off the judge and turning what should have been a simple approval process into a contentious legal affair. Brilliant.


Let me guess... they also don't have a team focused solely on delivering first rate burn day logistics and event programming. Every year it's been an ad hoc, poorly orchestrated event and presentation, and yet it never gets corrected.

Keegan,

the issue there is that they don't really have a former student in charge of pushing those kinds of standards through. I know Opie03 is involved, but so much of the "leadership decision-making" is kept secret, even from those who are very active in ASB, both physically and financially.

Quite honestly, they need a couple formers to keep the student leadership accountable from year-to-year and be that PR frontman / legal beagle on issues like this. It just seems like little is ever said or happens during the summer while the students are away and that's when all the planning needs to be taking place.


Remember '99.
OC Hogs Build Bonfire!

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the issue there is that they don't really have a former student in charge of pushing those kinds of standards through.

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Bonfire is built by the students for the students. There is a board of former students overlooking Bonfire. They are not in charge though, because Bonfire is STUDENT RUN. That is Bonfire. They are there to offer advice and make sure a big mistake is not being made. Or to tell the leadership "I wouldn't do that if I were you."

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It just seems like little is ever said or happens during the summer while the students are away and that's when all the planning needs to be taking place.

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Wrong. Oh so wrong.

Also, my post from the thread on the football forum http://texags.com/main/forum.reply.asp?topic_id=691473&forum_id=5

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It appears that after last years attempt to screw Bonfire, Simms is trying harder this year. Last year he tried a last minute attempt to stop Bonfire. SB has a board and an attorney and they were not stopped.

This year it appears that he is trying to screw Bonfire early. To my understanding, there has never been a "mid-August" deadline. Think about it, if it was an actual deadline, why would he call it a "mid-August" deadline. Don't you think it would be an actual date?

We do not need to make too many assumptions though, the Reds are dealing with this right now and an update should be soon to come.

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the issue there is that they don't really have a former student in charge of pushing those kinds of standards through. I know Opie03 is involved, but so much of the "leadership decision-making" is kept secret, even from those who are very active in ASB, both physically and financially.

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That increasing "black box" nature of the leadership coupled with the failure to address concerns voice REPEATEDLY over the past FOUR YEARS - seriously, how hard is it to have a PR chair that's skilled at smooth-talking the media, and has their contact information on the ASB web site? - is what has me questioning my financial support.

http://studentbonfire.com/pages/press.html

I've never really see you post anything on here thats worth a damn.

Wow. That's really valuable contact information.

If I was a reporter doing a story with a deadline in two hours and I needed to talk to someone from ASB, that'd be a huge help.

Good thing you're not a reporter; you wouldn't be able to get a story. You actually think KBTX used that email to do that interview with Chance?

Its not the best contact page, but its there.

The point is that there's no point person for PR, and no easy way for the press to contact ASB.

Moreover, a skilled PR representative wouldn't have issued a quote that threw a state law back in the judge's face in the press.

That's why you need someone whose sole responsibility is PR.


I don't mean to sound like my father here, but rather than smarting off and trying to justify bad practices, maybe you should LISTEN to those that have some significant real world experience and are trying to help by offering their insight into improving things.

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You actually think KBTX used that email to do that interview with Chance?

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I know if I was a reporter looking to do a story or gather information, yes, I would use the link that said "press info."

And I'd probably be perturbed that it was a useless link with no information. If Chance is the person they should get in touch with, his contact info should be listed there.

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Bonfire is built by the students for the students. There is a board of former students overlooking Bonfire. They are not in charge though, because Bonfire is STUDENT RUN.

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Then the current student leadership should take the ownership and responisblity for making sure the crap is taken care instead of pointing fingers at one another and thinking you operate in a vaccum.

NoACDamnit, for example, has 7+ years of major event coordination experience. He's done some big time stuff that's been 100% professional and light years beyond what I've seen from ASB.

He might know what he's talking about.

I hear a lot about the need for such things to be student run which is odd as when it was on campus, we had the MASSIVE resources of the University behind all of the logistics. The reds still did a lot, but so did the school. Asking for help making sure things like permits and PR get done isn't taking anything away from you.

Point taken. I don't disagree on the PR person(s) part. SB needs that.

I don't believe that a PR person would have changed what I believe Sims is trying to do.

No, but someone should be on top of logistics. If its true that he hasn't heard anything from the group, that's a big problem.

Any Volunteers? This is not a new idea...if somebody would like find a way to help out with this we can give you phone numbers and email @'s for the people to talk to...

It just seems that nobody with the ability wants to pony up the time and effort to actually do it.

The people that the press goes to don't always think things through before they speak...becuase public speaking isn't their strong suit...and not normally something a college student is skilled at.

The media also likes to twist things into the best story they can make...no matter what the truth is...and they tend to take any fodder they can get.

If any media tries to interview anyone that they shouldn't, "No comment" is the correct response. Tell them who to talk to...or send them in circles...either works.

News is a great way to get an organization promoted, but only if it is positive news. Right now KBTX is perpetuating the outlaw, rebel, unruly Bonfire that many have been taught to see. Bonfire should be kept out of the news as much as possible, unless we initiate contact...which somebody should start.

This is something that should be brought up at a board meeting. While the Bonfire should be mostly student run and constructed, it does not need to be done entirely by students.

Currently the students are doing many of the things that the administrators used to do on top of what the student leaders did. Would it be possible for the board to take a similar role to the Bonfire Admin?

There are alot of us that would be willing to do just the PR work that needs to be done if the reds would ask for volunteers. However its not my place to realy open my mouth about how thigns are being done for good or bad. I try to keep my head down and do whatever i can...

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Keegan: can you volunteer? I thought you helped out with transportation a couple of years ago.

I agree with just about everything you've said on here, but my point here is that a lot of people have great suggestions but few are willing to step up and do it. I think its asking a bit much of students to be skilled at dealing with the media. Hell, I'm not really skilled at it and I've been a media person myself.

I'd be happy to help a current student take the role if the Red/Greys are willing to delegate that responsibility. I believe that this would be a good learning opportunity for a current student, with some guidance from a former.

I'm by no means a PR guru, but I'd like to think I have a pretty good handle on the best way to "spin" a situation to the press, at least in regard to what to say and what not to say.