???Students Against Bonfire???

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dag07
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I read a post about pre-99 Bonfire that mentioned an organization called "Students Against Bonfire."

Anyone want to enlighten us younger guys on what the hell that was all about?
SquareOne07
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They have done something much harder than any of us who have built the Fire in years past. They work while an administration is openly hostile to their undertaking. They work with little to no infrastructure on how to motivate. They work in spite of some old ags mocking the very idea. Sure, we had Students Against Bonfire, but this group has the huge weight of the last 5 years on their shoulders.


Here's what he's referring to.
SquareOne07
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They have done something much harder than any of us who have built the Fire in years past. They work while an administration is openly hostile to their undertaking. They work with little to no infrastructure on how to motivate. They work in spite of some old ags mocking the very idea. Sure, we had Students Against Bonfire, but this group has the huge weight of the last 5 years on their shoulders.


Here's what he's referring to.
SquareOne07
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They have done something much harder than any of us who have built the Fire in years past. They work while an administration is openly hostile to their undertaking. They work with little to no infrastructure on how to motivate. They work in spite of some old ags mocking the very idea. Sure, we had Students Against Bonfire, but this group has the huge weight of the last 5 years on their shoulders.


Here's what he's referring to.
SquareOne07
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They have done something much harder than any of us who have built the Fire in years past. They work while an administration is openly hostile to their undertaking. They work with little to no infrastructure on how to motivate. They work in spite of some old ags mocking the very idea. Sure, we had Students Against Bonfire, but this group has the huge weight of the last 5 years on their shoulders.


Here's what he's referring to.
SquareOne07
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hey have done something much harder than any of us who have built the Fire in years past. They work while an administration is openly hostile to their undertaking. They work with little to no infrastructure on how to motivate. They work in spite of some old ags mocking the very idea. Sure, we had Students Against Bonfire, but this group has the huge weight of the last 5 years on their shoulders.


Here's what he was talking about.
dutch_chicken
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Excuse me, what is he talking about?
dutch_chicken
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Seriously, though, AAB (Aggies Against Bonfire) was a group of Aggies who were against Bonfire. It really was that simple. I believe Irwin Tang, who wrote a book on the Bonfire collapse was involved with the group, but that could just be me remembering things incorrectly. Their president (Brian S.) came out to cut one day to check things out. He had some really great stuff written on his pot that really won him a lot of friends out there. Anyone else remember that?

Some were members because they believed that Bonfire was bad for the environment, some because they disliked the culture. I used to hang out with a group of them for a while. Despite their obvious differences with me, they tended to listen to the same local bands as I did, so we often ended up in the same place. I even dated a girl who was loosely affiliated with them. In all, other than being an annoyance, they really were not any kind of impediment to Bonfire from '91 - '95.
COKEMAN
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You down with A-A-B?
Yeah, you know me...
Who's down with A-A-B?
Every last hip-eeee

There's probably only 2 people here that get that.

Geez, someone charge up the battery on my Rascal.

Scott Coker '92
SquareOne07
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sorry about the multiple posts, the website was giving me some sort of error message every time I tried to post.
WillD
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Technical double posts are acceptable alternatives to carrying on a conversation with yourself. I enjoyed the paraphrasing in the posts too.
Moses Hall 99 Esq
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AAB existed in the early 90s. They never amounted to much, gaining some attention around 92-93. They were pretty much extinct by 1995.

[This message has been edited by Moses Hall 99 Esq (edited 3/6/2007 11:29p).]
culdeus
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You'd see a sign or two taped inside a window and they'd write to the batt once or twice a year, but nothing much ever came of them.

I do sort of recall that they would even sort of half heartedly protest replant as well to get some attention.
southparkaggie
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I thought the only people against Bonfire belonged to a school called tu. Last time I checked A&M wasn't offering any environmental programs for saving the earth.

AAB= kids at the wrong school

"They died for The Tradition, Remember 99"
SquareOne07
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Obviously I wasn't around at the time, but I sincerely doubt a great deal of opposition to Bonfire was due to environmental issues.
opie03
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There were enough eco-enthusiasts against Bonfrie's impact on the environment to inspire and enact re-plant...


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COKEMAN
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Obviously I wasn't around at the time, but I sincerely doubt a great deal of opposition to Bonfire was due to environmental issues.


They paid for or otherwise arranged for an environmental impact study of Burn. Obviously you weren't around so you never heard the "save the trees, blah, blah" chants they did.

Whether sincere or not, the environmental issues were what they put at the forefront of the opposition.

Scott Coker '92
SquareOne07
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Well then that's a pretty weak point to stand on, I agree.
Big_Russ
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Cokeman is correct. AAB focused almost exclusively on environmental-type issues.
Lechnerd00
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Yep, I remember them being focused on how cutting and burning so many trees was bad for the environment. Although I don't remember them really getting much attention except for a table outside the MSC every now and then...and maybe a story in the Batt? I don't ever remember any of them having any safety issues.
91AggieLawyer
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I don't know when they started, but they were a small group on campus when I arrived in '89. They never amounted to much when I was there.

Incidentally, I started the unofficial group, Aggies Against Aggies Against Bonfire.
HDeathstar
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They did not like the killing of trees and thought to much time went into the project that could be spent doing other things.

they had their protests every year. I think my botany prof was one.
Danno93
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They were mostly an annoyance, small protests etc. The fun part was my sister-in-law was in the same class with the president of AAB and one of the Sr. Redpots. She said that the debates in class were quite interseting.
SteadicaTm
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there are some eco-nuts in rpts.
DualAG
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While the organized opposition to Bonfire in the 1990s emphasized environmental objections to the tradition, a strong undercurrent of opposition emerged from those who faulted other aspects of the "Bonfire culture."

The loudest and most visible environmental concerns carried little weight with those who wielded influence on campus and in the community. Most Aggies, to include faculty and community members, were not tree huggers.

But when students didn't show up to class or slept through lectures because they'd been up all night working on stack, that became the focus of faculty objections. Their objections prompted many Faculty Senate debates, but more importantly, many individual expressions of concern to department heads and deans.

Likewise, the community took notice of the alcohol abuse on burn night. In the 1990s, the Eagle wrote a series of editorials about drunk students on Bonfire night, decrying the university's inability to control the tradition.

Here's the point:

If there are ever serious proposals to bring the tradition back to campus, environmental concerns won't carry much weight. Instead, safety, scholastics, and alcohol will dominate the collective memory of all of those who lived through the last Bonfire cycle.

If we can convince the Aggie community that Bonfire can be built and burned safely, that will be only half of the battle.

[This message has been edited by DualAG (edited 5/3/2007 9:20a).]
Spectre
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My cousin-in-law Greg was a big anti-bonfire activist during his time at A&M. He was a junior or senior during '99. In fact he was so vocal on his views about it that after the collapse he was questioned by the police.

When I told him I would be working on the '05 Bonfire he gave me multiple lectures on why I shouldn't.

I did anyways, and it was one of the greatest experiences of my life.

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Formerly: Fightin' Texas Aggie Class of 2008
Department of Petroleum Engineering

Temporarily: United States Air Force, 48th FW
RAF Lakenheath Fire Rescue
MouthBQ98
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I remember when I was there a few enviro-whako profs had "Stop bonfire" signs in their office windows. Those windows usually got a good dose of white shoe polish after a few days... that's about as far as it went.
SWCBonfire
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I remember when I was there a few enviro-whako profs had "Stop bonfire" signs in their office windows. Those windows usually got a good dose of white shoe polish after a few days... that's about as far as it went.


There was a faculty office on the basement floor of Butler(?) hall. It got a shoe polish "HAßT" from myself personally on one occasion.

EDIT: I guess no cyrillic/backwards "R's" allowed...

[This message has been edited by SWCBonfire (edited 5/10/2007 12:23p).]
ro828
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The way they whined about it, you'd think people were cutting down redwood trees. Come on, folks. Those were mostly trash trees. Some farmer was so happy to have his field cleared of them that he thought he'd died and gone to Heaven.
Billman98
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There were Ags against Bonfire when I was in Aggieland. '95-'98. If you walked past BSBE/BSBW and/or Heldenfels, they had their signs posted in all the windows. Bunch of treehuggers. Sorry to say that I missed the last Bonfire that burned due to a friend having Spurs/Rockets tix in Houston. Stupid Rockets! I did see the burning remains when we pulled back into town. I graduated that December. Came back for the game in '99. It was perfect. The "pep rally" and the game were sweet. God bless everyone.

Gig'em Lou Crew Northgate!!!

Billy
Class of '98
Whoop!!!
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HOGS LEW
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Giving Texas back to the prairie, one ranch at a time.
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