It is comforting to know God is in control. His will be done.

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It is comforting to know God is in control. His will be done.

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Amen. We are called to not be anxious about anything (easier said than done obviously). Whatever the results, we need to make sure our faith is in Christ, not men. Praying for peace after the results.

Hopefully he chooses Trump and passes over Kamala
(as President)

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Hopefully he chooses Trump and passes over Kamala
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I see what you did there.

There is an old story about a peasant who decided to walk home at night on Halloween through a stretch of forest widely said to be haunted by demons.
He said to himself "I've lived a good life. If I'm attacked, it would mean that life is unfair."
A voice from behind him said "It isn't."

Prayers for peace and reconciliation.

I just pray for unity within the church. Too many on both sides believe if you voted a certain way means you cannot be saved and it deeply bothers me. It bothered me when I lived in Seattle and it bothers me here in Texas (and F16).

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I just pray for unity within the church. Too many on both sides believe if you voted a certain way means you cannot be saved and it deeply bothers me. It bothered me when I lived in Seattle and it bothers me here in Texas (and F16).

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Agree.

There are a lot of Christians who believe fellow believers are hell bound if they do not agree exactly with them on non salvific issues. Very sad. And very un Biblical.

I don't know anyone who thinks "you cannot be saved" based on voting patterns. Anyone who thinks that isn't reading their Bible with clear understanding.

That said, anyone who votes for the party of Molech while trying to follow Christ has some soul searching to do.

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I don't know anyone who thinks "you cannot be saved" based on voting patterns. Anyone who thinks that isn't reading their Bible with clear understanding.

That said, anyone who votes for the party of Molech while trying to follow Christ has some soul searching to do.

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And anyone who votes for Republicans thinking that makes them a good Christian, while still sinning has some soul searching to do. Anyone who chooses against the common good and to sin and also follow Christ needs to reread their bible. Many folks truly believe that voting for the Dems was voting for treating people more humanely....whether I agree with that or not. Lots of Christians make bad choices with good intent that they truly believe are the right ones.

To much triumphalism going on bc of politics.

It is posted almost daily on F16

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I don't know anyone who thinks "you cannot be saved" based on voting patterns. Anyone who thinks that isn't reading their Bible with clear understanding.

That said, anyone who votes for the party of Molech while trying to follow Christ has some soul searching to do.

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And anyone who votes for Republicans thinking that makes them a good Christian, while still sinning has some soul searching to do. Anyone who chooses against the common good and to sin and also follow Christ needs to reread their bible. Many folks truly believe that voting for the Dems was voting for treating people more humanely....whether I agree with that or not. Lots of Christians make bad choices with good intent that they truly believe are the right ones.

To much triumphalism going on bc of politics.

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Amen. Christ is King! Not Trump or anyone else.

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Prayers for peace and reconciliation.

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Many prayers this morning. Just got off a long call with my boss this morning

My boss and I are both conservativish independent/libertarian/christians. we keep our politics (but not our faith) to ourselves in the office and we've had a lot of concerns for this election. We travel a lot together and can be a bit more open with our politics there than we are in office.

we were both reluctant Trump voters, acknowledging his many moral and political failures, but the immigration and economy answers from the other side were just too overwhelming to ignore. remove abortion, LGBT stuff, we just couldn't continue as a nation in my opinion with those two issues.

as a small company, we're 70/30 conservative/liberal, so he told everybody to keep up their work and take as much time as needed yesterday and today.

when he called this morning and we both had the same sense of mourning. we're not "happy" our side won. we're regretful that neither offered up a better option. it was one of the hardest calls i've had with him in 10 years of working for him. he's a second father to me and it felt like we just won one of the most pyrrhic victories ever.

in 2016 i probably delighted (sinfully) in some of the wailing and gnashing of teeth from the other side, whereas today i'm just sad for people that are so distraught. so many Christians i love are lashing out at Trump voters and calling them vicious names. my wife was beside herself at some of the things people from our church were posting.

I won't say that Trump voters wouldn't have done the same (they 100% would,) but I had told my family, if it doesn't go my way, I'll wake up and say "Jesus is king" and go about our day glorifying him. there was no other answer.

even though "my guy" won, i'm just so sad that so many people have bought into the hysteria of believing Hitler has been elected. but also, i'm angry at the people that wound them up so much saying every awful thing about the other side without an ounce of nuance. no, every immigrant isn't about the be deported. no, the constitution isn't about to be thrown out. no, we aren't entering into the handmaid tale. no, we aren't firing up internment camps. honestly, i love my fellow Americans, but I absolutely hate the media and politicians that have put this paralyzing fear in people.

and i'm equally angry at the Fox News, Tucker Carlson, right wing media side as well if the roles were reversed because they've done the same thing.


Jesus is King, but i'm just sad today.

Me too. I voted trump but definitely woke up sad today. Was going to be sad regardless

Unless Jesus Christ himself is on the ticket you're always are going to be picking between the lesser of two evils…Americans spoke in a big way yesterday..let's pray we chose right!

Elephant trying to fly like an angel?

The Lord has sovereignly allowed former President Donald Trump to defeat Vice President Kamala Harris in his reelection bid and lead a Republican sweep.

I don't think anyone votes for anything "thinking that makes them a good Christian." In fact, Christians are famously bad at getting out the vote.

However our Christ centered worldview should guide ALL of our decisions.

You are simply gaslighting trying to convince anyone the anti theist party of baby murder and child grooming is what a wise and well read Christian should support.

People are flawed and easily manipulated, so of course voting patterns are no more disqualifying of faith then any other decision. But facts are facts. Everyday I read my Bible and it's pretty obvious which party has been more corrupted by The Father of Lies.

I simply refuse to back down to your both sidesism. It's factually misguided.

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Many prayers this morning. Just got off a long call with my boss this morning

My boss and I are both conservativish independent/libertarian/christians. we keep our politics (but not our faith) to ourselves in the office and we've had a lot of concerns for this election. We travel a lot together and can be a bit more open with our politics there than we are in office.

we were both reluctant Trump voters, acknowledging his many moral and political failures, but the immigration and economy answers from the other side were just too overwhelming to ignore. remove abortion, LGBT stuff, we just couldn't continue as a nation in my opinion with those two issues.

as a small company, we're 70/30 conservative/liberal, so he told everybody to keep up their work and take as much time as needed yesterday and today.

when he called this morning and we both had the same sense of mourning. we're not "happy" our side won. we're regretful that neither offered up a better option. it was one of the hardest calls i've had with him in 10 years of working for him. he's a second father to me and it felt like we just won one of the most phallic victories ever.

in 2016 i probably delighted (sinfully) in some of the wailing and gnashing of teeth from the other side, whereas today i'm just sad for people that are so distraught. so many Christians i love are lashing out at Trump voters and calling them vicious names. my wife was beside herself at some of the things people from our church were posting.

I won't say that Trump voters wouldn't have done the same (they 100% would,) but I had told my family, if it doesn't go my way, I'll wake up and say "Jesus is king" and go about our day glorifying him. there was no other answer.

even though "my guy" won, i'm just so sad that so many people have bought into the hysteria of believing Hitler has been elected. but also, i'm angry at the people that wound them up so much saying every awful thing about the other side without an ounce of nuance. no, every immigrant isn't about the be deported. no, the constitution isn't about to be thrown out. no, we aren't entering into the handmaid tale. no, we aren't firing up internment camps. honestly, i love my fellow Americans, but I absolutely hate the media and politicians that have put this paralyzing fear in people.

and i'm equally angry at the Fox News, Tucker Carlson, right wing media side as well if the roles were reversed because they've done the same thing.

Jesus is King, but i'm just sad today.

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I regret that I have but one blue star to give you.

I consider myself to be fairly moderate in terms of party loyalty, maybe not all dissimilar to you but mirrored across the middle of the political spectrum.

Kamala felt like a 'safe' choice in a candidate in a number of ways. She presents very polished and sensible. And everyone of her speeches feels written by AI and delivered with a 'This is my politician voice' cadence.

The last 4 years of illegal immigration into the country is a big problem. I like to point out that neither political party has any appetite in actually addressing immigration in any meaningful way. . . . . but its really hard to ignore the numbers. And I think we tend to dramatically inflate the president's role in the economy. Kamala just felt like a very 'okay, safe, status quo' kinda vote. And its not that I like the status quo, but there are worse things than our status quo.

Going into last night, the election felt very lose-lose to me as well. If Trump had lost, I know that a lot of people would have been upset. The way this election had been built up and the rhetoric from both sides meant it was going to be impossible for half the county not to be angry. Either we were about to all live in a fascist dictatorship or all be forced to have sex change operations.

I look at past Republican candidates and presidents like the Bush's, Romney, and McCain. And I look at the Republican leaders and would be candidates from previous years and none of them scare me. I didn't agree with many of them, but they didn't scare me. Trump scares me. I might be disappointed today if we had just elected someone like Romney or Kasich, but I would have been fine with it.

I think the existential threat to this country is not economic and its not related to immigration. I think that perhaps your post begins to hit on it. Politics is gross. Politics has always been gross, but this feels different to me. We've entered a political era where political party loyalty is valued above loyalty to what is best for our country. Political candidates are outspoken about their disdain for those that disagree with them. And laws are passed or not to inflict pain on political opponents rather than to do what is best for everyone.

Please don't take this as commentary on anyone who voted for Trump. . . . but I cannot find a single redeeming quality about Trump personally. There are plenty of things that he did in term 1 that I thought were fine or even good at times. But, without exaggeration, I have trouble imagining anyone being more hateful, mean, gross, or selfish than him. He has aligned himself with Christians, pays lip service, and passes laws and appoints judges to maintain that alliance. . . . but, he is about the least decent person I can imagine. He has built his entire political career on hate and fear, plain and simple.

And that is why I'm sad. You deserve better. The Republican party deserves better. This country deserves better. I consider myself to be very empathetic and pride myself on being able to put myself in other people's shoes. But, I just cannot understand why we've let this guy become our leader. He is just a horrific human being. . . You can look through 15 or so years of posting from me and I think you'll find that statement very out of character for me. I just don't get it.

One last thing. I acknowledge the hysteria from the media. I don't think that we're going to become a fascist regime, throw out the Constitution, or find ourselves in the Handmaid's Tale. However, I have made the mistake, in the past of not understanding what my neighbors on the other side of the aisle value. And I think that I've been guilty of trivializing things that have frustrated Christians or Republicans. While there are plenty of fears out there that are not well founded, I would beg you not to devalue what is valuable to your neighbor.

If we are interested in reconciliation, we need to be interested in advocating for officials that protects the values of those that voted for the 'other guy'. Liberals need to learn to advocate for Conservatives and visa versa.

Man I have always respected your positions but I'm going to be 100% honest with you, the only way I think anyone would formulate that much disdain for the guy is because you are a victim of an 8 year concerted propaganda machine.

I've watched hours of him sitting down with the likes of Joe Rogan, Lex Friedman, PDB, Theo, etc and I just see a normal dude shooting the **** with other normal dudes. He can be crass and off color, I can definitely see how his personality rubs some people the wrong way, but to despise him as much as some of you do just screams propaganda to me. I've seen the guy make fun of himself. I find that trait to be particularly endearing,

I also look at the people he surrounds himself with. Elon, JD, Vivek, Tulsi, RFK. Like, I can understand disagreeing with any of these people politically, but it baffles me that anyone who has taken the time to listen to any of these people speak would come across as thinking they were evil.

He's a fighter, and he's a narcissists, but he's also been the target of the most concerted smear campaign in US history. Like surely you can see that, right? You have always come across as someone who checks his sources. Surely you know that a lot of the talking points over the years have been thoroughly proven false:

Russia Collusion
Both fine people
Bloodbath
Liz Cheney firing squad
Being impeached for merely suggesting Biden should be investigated, which I don't know how anyone could look at the Hunter laptop objectively and not at least raise their eyebrows
The highly questionable lawfare
Etc.

Like, I was a "thank God it's not Hilary so I'll tolerate this guy" voter 8 years ago. But the more they tried to take him down with complete fabrications, the more I started to respect the crazy ******* for his incredible resilience. And, of course, when he started dodging actual bullets, man...

Anyway, thank you for sharing your perspective. I'm honestly not trying to be denigrating when I say that I view you as a victim of propaganda. I certainly was during the Bush years. Much love for you brother. I truly hope this administration is able to bring some real corruption to light and win over the people who feel jilted a skeptical today.

Sorry to derail Derm.

I have a coworker that feels almost the exact same as Kurt in "there's absolutely nothing good about him." He can't rant for hours about bankruptcy, Central Park 5, being sued, Charlottesville, etc.

That's just an insane take to me. I didn't vote for Obama but I recognize his intellect and being a good father.A black man growing up with a single mother in poverty and becoming president is an amazing feat. I didn't vote for Biden but I respect his story of going home every weekend to raise his sons after his wife's accident. Even if I think there are some unscrupulous things (I'd be remiss to not mention Trump's unscrupulous behavior) about Harris' rise in SF politics, moving her way up in the 90s in a male dominated field has to speak to some abilities.

I'm highly critical of Trump not just for his morals but a good number of his governances.

Both his ex-wives endorsed him. His kids obviously love him. Numerous former and current employees speak about his generosity. There are dozens of stories where he heard about somebody in need and paid something off. He was a huge advocate for NYFD after 9/11.

Say every mean thing about him in the books and I'd be hard to disagree, but to say "I can't find one redeeming quality" is pure derangement.

Sorry for an aside in an otherwise affable thread.

I do appreciate Kurt's comments though. It's a tough go. I don't care for Romney, McCain, or Obama but I'd rather go back to that level of dialogue in political discourse. I was hoping that Trump in 2016 would be a course correction for both parties. It wasn't.

I do feel like we have a kinder and gentler Trump this go round. He's partnering with somebody that voted to impeach him, a Kennedy, and multiple people that thought he was possibly Hitler in 2016. I could be wildly wrong but I'm hoping for a well functioning team of rivals with a dose of humility for Trump. It's a long shot.

" he's a second father to me and it felt like we just won one of the most phallic victories ever..."

Don't you mean "pyrrhic"?

I've struggled a little bit with how to respond to the above posts. To be perfectly honest, I'm more than a little caught off guard being called brainwashed and deranged because I think Trump is a bad person. I have a lot of friends and coworkers and family that also voted for Trump, but who tell me that every time he opens his mouth, they want to cry. I recognize that this is a small snapshot of people that voted for Trump, but I didn't think that being adverse to Trump's style and personality was so controversial - even among Conservatives.

There is an initial instinct to create a gigantic list every 'bad' thing he's said or done and ask if we are even talking about the same guy? But, I don't think this accomplishes anything.

I think I'm bothered too by the suggestion that I've been the victim of a propaganda machine. I consume next to zero social media and my customized newsfeed, very intentionally, contains as many FOX News's as 'NY Times's'. My dislike of Trump is not tied to Russian collusion or his impeachments or the smear jobs.

Let me know which of the following items you disagree with: Trump is a thrice married adulterer who has bragged about sexually assaulting women, has talked about about walking in on beauty pageant contestants while they are changing so that he can see them naked, slept with a pron star while his wife was pregnant with his child, has been found liable for sexual abuse, and made sexual comments about underage girls. Trump has posted / spoken a huge number of ad hominem insults and name calling about political opponents. He insults people with different political opinions, threatens them, creates belittling nick names, and rants about them on social media and at rallies. He insults political opponents wives and family members. He calls political opponents deranged and sad and low IQ and crazy and ugly. He mocked a disabled reporter. He's been sued for racial discrimination. There are consultants and professionals that he's hired and never paid. He has called American veterans losers and suckers. Insulted John McCain for being captured. He has disrespected and insulted Gold Star Families.

Like. . . . this isn't propaganda. This is fact. This is fact that I can see and hear and read because I have eyes and ears and a brain that works. The idea that I'm deranged and brainwashed because I think 'this' guy is a bad person, is insane to me. Thats great that he went on Joe Rogan and sounded like a cool dude you want to have a beer with.

Comments like the 'bloodbath' and 'Liz Cheney firing squad' get blown out of proportion. But, he's the most powerful person on the planet and he is who we look toward to be the leader of the free world. If my dad makes an off color remark about setting Cheney up in front of nine barrels, I know he doesn't mean it and I think its still in bad taste. But, for the President of the United States of America to say it is massively inappropriate. Murdering political rivals isn't an off the cuff, off color, joke that we should shrug off. I accept that his comment is not what the media made it to be. . . but, are we saying that its okay?

I know that neither of you are looking to defend Trump on probably 99% of the things I've brought up here, right? Like, you don't think we should be insulting our fellow Americans who think differently from us, right? We shouldn't be bragging about sexually assaulting women, right? I think you are both good decent people. You get that Trump does and/or says a lot of bad ***** . . . so, why am I the crazy one for thinking the guy that constantly does bad ****, might just be an *******?

You both have been on this board long enough to know that I'm not a hateful person. I get passionate and worked up. I went out of my way to point out my 15+ years on this board to recognize that my statements about Trump probably will appear out of character for me.

I'm not going to chalk your views up to brainwashing or derangement. You are rational and reasonable adults and you are allowed to think different from me. It is fine that we disagree. We can do so without suggesting the other is deranged, right?

The media most certainly is off its rocker with regard to Trump, and in some ways I think it actually shielded him from his legitimate issues at times by letting things get buried in an endless pile.

The biggest one that he didn't pay nearly as high a public price for as he should have is the single most dangerous thing a president has ever done with regard to our way of governance.


"President Trump demanded that I use my authority as vice president presiding over the count of the Electoral College to essentially overturn the election by returning or literally rejecting votes. I had no authority to do that."

-Mike pence

My religious beliefs inform my voting decisions, but those decisions in no way make me any better or worse of a Christian (or person in general) than anyone else.

I vote my conscience and work to have an informed conscience.

I'm a sinner saved by Grace.

I think Trump is a narcissistic jerk.

I do not think Harris voters realize how abhorrent we believe the dem policies are.

This is not a personality contest to me. In my opinion, the modern dem party endorses policies, both social and fiscal, that are dangerous to America. Dems used to not be like this.

But that is just me. As I said, Jesus is king.

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The media most certainly is off its rocker with regard to Trump, and in some ways I think it actually shielded him from his legitimate issues at times by letting things get buried in an endless pile.

The biggest one that he didn't pay nearly as high a public price for as he should have is the single most dangerous thing a president has ever done with regard to our way of governance.


"President Trump demanded that I use my authority as vice president presiding over the count of the Electoral College to essentially overturn the election by returning or literally rejecting votes. I had no authority to do that."

-Mike pence

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I agree with you. I believe the dems really hurt themselves and shielded Trump by using the media and left wing celebrities to endorse Harris and deride Trump. Came across as very elitist and almost you are dumb if you support Trump. The dems did not identify with normal Americans in my opinion.

They ran an arrogant, elitist campaign and it hurt them just like in 2016. Instead of yelling stupid, racist, xenophobe, etc. maybe try to talk to people?

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I think Trump is a narcissistic jerk.

I do not think Harris voters realize how abhorrent we believe the dem policies are.

This is not a personality contest to me. In my opinion, the modern dem party endorses policies, both social and fiscal, that are dangerous to America. Dems used to not be like this.

But that is just me. As I said, Jesus is king.

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Totally fine. I understand voting for the better policy rather than for the person. However. . . .

Like I began to mention before, I don't think that most of the policies we discuss are existential threats. Inflation won't be the downfall of America. How much we spend on environmental protections won't be our downfall. Immigration is a bigger issue, but I think its more of a symptom of a bigger problem, than the problem itself. And which restroom trans kids use won't be our downfall either.

What I see as our biggest threats are misinformation, hyper partisanship, a political system that pits citizens against each other to avoid having to address its own failures and inefficiencies, and a growing disrespect and hatred of people who think differently. Kamala Harris doesn't offer a solution to these threats. Trump was supposed to be the guy to item #3. But on items 1,2,and 4, I see Trump as a guy with a can of gasoline pouring fuel on a fire. As far as I can tell, he is an unapologetic advocate of those other items.

For me, I think the biggest policy issue is which candidate is going to help us stop hating one another. And so I ask myself, "Does one of the candidates constantly go on social media and hurl insults at everyone and hold rallies to talk about how great he is and how evil the other side is?" And I understand that some people will counter me here and state that they feel the democrats are more responsible for spreading hate. Totally fine - like I said, we are allowed to disagree.

I think that Americans are all so desperate for someone to come along and break down the establishment and work it into something better that we've just grasped on any anti-establishment candidate despite the fact that this one is . . . . . not ideal.

There are so many things Americans do agree on. Something like 85% of Americans want term limits on Congress. Something like 65% of Americans think weed should be legal and 90% think it should be at least medically available everywhere. Any poll on the subject will show overwhelming concern among Americans about the influence of money in politics, the roll of lobbyists, and the lack of transparency in how things get funded. We have a political system that has made it impossible for a 3rd party to ever run meaningfully in this country. Gerrymandering is so blatantly contrary to everything this country pretends to stands for that it makes me want to cry. Americans pay 2 to 4 times more out of pocket for a healthcare system that is certainly not 2 to 4 times better than other developed countries. Not promoting socialized healthcare. . . . but, we have a system that will (and does) bankrupt anyone with a serious health concern who isn't middle class or above - which is about 70% of the population. We don't pay our police and first responders. We don't pay our teachers. Our tax system is absurdly complicated. We have an insane incarceration rate, partly because we clearly don't believe in having a prison system to reform people. And we certainly don't believe in ever allowing them to hold a decent job after they've been released. One of our largest lobbyist groups is for prisons. How F-ing insane is that? Incarceration is huge industry in this country and they are very much in the business of making money.

The point is, I think we have lots of things we can do to improve this country that we all agree on. But, those things won't happen. It won't happen because my side thinks your side hates everyone that isn't a straight white man. And your side thinks that my side wants to give everyone a mandatory sex change operation. And we've all become either too dumb or too overwhelmed to parse through the mountains of misinformation and propaganda to see what's true.

"Dems used to not be like this". Yes, you are correct. Do you honestly think the Republican party stands for the things it 'traditionally' stood for???? Understand that as long as political leaders can convince you and me that 'the other side' is worse, they have zero incentive to get better.

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I agree with you. I believe the dems really hurt themselves and shielded Trump by using the media and left wing celebrities to endorse Harris and deride Trump. Came across as very elitist and almost you are dumb if you support Trump. The dems did not identify with normal Americans in my opinion.

They ran an arrogant, elitist campaign and it hurt them just like in 2016. Instead of yelling stupid, racist, xenophobe, etc. maybe try to talk to people?

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Didn't you just say this wasn't a personality contest?

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I agree with you. I believe the dems really hurt themselves and shielded Trump by using the media and left wing celebrities to endorse Harris and deride Trump. Came across as very elitist and almost you are dumb if you support Trump. The dems did not identify with normal Americans in my opinion.

They ran an arrogant, elitist campaign and it hurt them just like in 2016. Instead of yelling stupid, racist, xenophobe, etc. maybe try to talk to people?

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Didn't you just say this wasn't a personality contest?

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For me it is not. For a lot of people it is.

Dems completely turn off half the country with their arrogance and elitism. And they completely lack self awareness as they obviously do not how they are perceived. They, like Trump, are their own worst enemies.

The difference is that I think Trump is fully aware of what he is doing and is using it to his advantage. The dems really believe they are smarter and better than everybody else and can not understand how the unwashed masses do not understand that. Completely clueless due to their own pride.

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Not talking about Kurt but libs completely lack self awareness as to how they are perceived by non libs. It never changes. They simply do not get it.

And until that changes, we will never be united.

Glad Jesus is king!

What form of reconciliation, exactly, are you looking for? What does it look like? I don't want to put words in your mouth, but it looks like your version of 'peace and reconciliation' is the libs admitting they are wrong and you are right.

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What form of reconciliation, exactly, are you looking for? What does it look like? I don't want to put words in your mouth, but it looks like your version of 'peace and reconciliation' is the libs admitting they are wrong and you are right.

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I remember the days of Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neil. Very different views but were gentlemen and civil. Voters are going to follow their leaders' behavior.

And although I disagree with Clinton on some things, he could appease both sides in a civil manner, I believe there was a big decline in civil behavior with the Bush contested win over Gore.

The biggest problem is lack of common sense and critical thinking. And humility in understanding you represent the entire country. I honestly believe most Americans are more alike than they think.