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BusterAg
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Deerdude said:

Close and personal story. My store managers husband was born in Fredericksburg to illegal parents. He graduated HS there, they married and had kids.
A few years later he gets a letter to self deport and the family does. They could not make ends meet in Mexico so wife and kids returned to states and he remained in Mx. started working there and made double digits dollars weekly.
After a short while he decided to join his family in states and crossed. Was caught and forcibly deported. This happened twice, all while trying to navigate the legalization process.
He stayed in Mx and has since been working on legalization but now he is serving basically a sentence for the two illegal entries and deportations. I think is some like 5 years for each count. He has served those and is now ready for legalization, but is stuck in waiting mode. Because of Bidens catastrophes and backlogs at the border.
I don't agree with birthright but also feel that if we financing their education that there should be a pathway for legalization.
You can't have a welfare state unless you have closed borders.

You only get one bleeding heart cause to finance on the backs of the productive American worker.

Pick one.
BusterAg
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Deerdude said:

Close and personal story. My store managers husband was born in Fredericksburg to illegal parents. He graduated HS there, they married and had kids.
A few years later he gets a letter to self deport and the family does. They could not make ends meet in Mexico so wife and kids returned to states and he remained in Mx. started working there and made double digits dollars weekly.
After a short while he decided to join his family in states and crossed. Was caught and forcibly deported. This happened twice, all while trying to navigate the legalization process.
He stayed in Mx and has since been working on legalization but now he is serving basically a sentence for the two illegal entries and deportations. I think is some like 5 years for each count. He has served those and is now ready for legalization, but is stuck in waiting mode. Because of Bidens catastrophes and backlogs at the border.
I don't agree with birthright but also feel that if we financing their education that there should be a pathway for legalization.
Please revise your fictional story so that it is at least plausible. The fictional character in your story is born a U.S. citizen.
oh no
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yeah; "free stuff for everyone who doesn't want to work" + "bring in millions and millions more people unvetted from everywhere to waltz on in here unfettered because they also want free stuff" = recipe for a faster track to venezuela 2.0 socialism-induced poverty.

...but that's what democrats want - to destroy this great experiment they hate so much. and that's what they've gotten their academia and pravda media arms to program the masses with: that it's what everyone should want because anything opposed to it is both fascist and racist
Big_Time_Timmy_Jim
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Ha I sent those letters as a prank ages ago. Funny they actually worked.
Deerdude
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BusterAg said:

Deerdude said:

Close and personal story. My store managers husband was born in Fredericksburg to illegal parents. He graduated HS there, they married and had kids.
A few years later he gets a letter to self deport and the family does. They could not make ends meet in Mexico so wife and kids returned to states and he remained in Mx. started working there and made double digits dollars weekly.
After a short while he decided to join his family in states and crossed. Was caught and forcibly deported. This happened twice, all while trying to navigate the legalization process.
He stayed in Mx and has since been working on legalization but now he is serving basically a sentence for the two illegal entries and deportations. I think is some like 5 years for each count. He has served those and is now ready for legalization, but is stuck in waiting mode. Because of Bidens catastrophes and backlogs at the border.
I don't agree with birthright but also feel that if we financing their education that there should be a pathway for legalization.
Please revise your fictional story so that it is at least plausible. The fictional character in your story is born a U.S. citizen.


Nothing fictional about it. This is happening to my General Manager now. I've helped pay some slimy attorneys fees to help her out. These are facts.

And I'm not a bleeding heart by any means. I just see how much we pay to finance these illegals. Seems stupid to me. We held a full time job before deportation and I pay his wife 6 figures to run my DQ. They are eligible for zero freebies.
AggieGunslinger
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Your argument is that an child born in America was deported and is being penalized for trying to get back home?
Deerdude
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I think that we should either offer them a path to citizenship, or not spend the funds to educate them. Many of these illegals started off on maybe welfare, WIC, maybe housing, education complete with free lunches.
I think that's wrong if all we do is deport them.
akm91
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Nothing fictional about it. This is happening to my General Manager now. I've helped pay some slimy attorneys fees to help her out. These are facts.
I call bs on the facts as you have stated and have several questions:

1. Is your GM an illegal? If not, then why did she need to deport along with her children who were born in the US?
2. Why did her husband have to self deport if he was born in Fredericksburg?
Deerdude
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On first question, they are married. I never said that she had to, I said she did. She was free to come and go, but also chose to try to keep the family together. Is that a bad thing?
Yes he was born in Fredericksburg to illegals, and graduated from there then married his HS sweetheart. Those are facts.
BusterAg
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For you to be taken seriously, you still need to address the part of your story where an American citizen was deported.
BusterAg
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Deerdude said:

On first question, they are married. I never said that she had to, I said she did. She was free to come and go, but also chose to try to keep the family together. Is that a bad thing?
Yes he was born in Fredericksburg to illegals, and graduated from there then married his HS sweetheart. Those are facts.
Now you are just making crap up.

The only way the spouse of an American citizen is ever deported is if the U.S. can prove marriage fraud.

At least learn the laws before coming here and spreading this crap.
Deerdude
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Again? Maybe read my post. SHE WAS NOT DEPORTED. She chose to try to keep her family together. Is that difficult to comprehend?
Deerdude
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BusterAg said:

Deerdude said:

On first question, they are married. I never said that she had to, I said she did. She was free to come and go, but also chose to try to keep the family together. Is that a bad thing?
Yes he was born in Fredericksburg to illegals, and graduated from there then married his HS sweetheart. Those are facts.
Now you are just making crap up.

You can't deport the spouse of an American citizen.


sorry, you are wrong.
BusterAg
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I'm gonna ignore the thread derail from here out.
agracer
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Deerdude said:

Again? Maybe read my post. SHE WAS NOT DEPORTED. She chose to try to keep her family together. Is that difficult to comprehend?
If HE was born in Fredrickburg, TX, HE IS A U.S. CITIZEN.

Why would any of them self deport because of a letter they got in the mail?

Also, if he is married to a US Citizen, why would he self deport?

Your story is BS. Or at least get your facts straight before posting some sob story.
agracer
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BusterAg said:

Deerdude said:

On first question, they are married. I never said that she had to, I said she did. She was free to come and go, but also chose to try to keep the family together. Is that a bad thing?
Yes he was born in Fredericksburg to illegals, and graduated from there then married his HS sweetheart. Those are facts.
Now you are just making crap up.

The only way the spouse of an American citizen is ever deported is if the U.S. can prove marriage fraud.

At least learn the laws before coming here and spreading this crap.
That's actually not true.

If you came over as a child of an illegal, you're what has been called a Dreamer. You've basically been illegal your whole life in the US.

Wife's co-worker was married to a Dreamer. He had to self deport to get legal status and is now back in the US legally and trying to get citizenship. But he had to leave to get the process started.
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Deerdude said:

BusterAg said:

Deerdude said:

Close and personal story. My store managers husband was born in Fredericksburg to illegal parents. He graduated HS there, they married and had kids.
A few years later he gets a letter to self deport and the family does. They could not make ends meet in Mexico so wife and kids returned to states and he remained in Mx. started working there and made double digits dollars weekly.
After a short while he decided to join his family in states and crossed. Was caught and forcibly deported. This happened twice, all while trying to navigate the legalization process.
He stayed in Mx and has since been working on legalization but now he is serving basically a sentence for the two illegal entries and deportations. I think is some like 5 years for each count. He has served those and is now ready for legalization, but is stuck in waiting mode. Because of Bidens catastrophes and backlogs at the border.
I don't agree with birthright but also feel that if we financing their education that there should be a pathway for legalization.
Please revise your fictional story so that it is at least plausible. The fictional character in your story is born a U.S. citizen.


Nothing fictional about it. This is happening to my General Manager now. I've helped pay some slimy attorneys fees to help her out. These are facts.

And I'm not a bleeding heart by any means. I just see how much we pay to finance these illegals. Seems stupid to me. We held a full time job before deportation and I pay his wife 6 figures to run my DQ. They are eligible for zero freebies.


So which is it? You employ illegals, or your story is completely made up and they're not illegal and aren't in any danger of being deported.
Deerdude
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Wife is legally citizen. Husband is not. Is it that difficult to grasp. She chose to stay with here husband, that's what many married folks choose to do. It did not work out financially so she returned.
Deerdude
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agracer said:

BusterAg said:

Deerdude said:

On first question, they are married. I never said that she had to, I said she did. She was free to come and go, but also chose to try to keep the family together. Is that a bad thing?
Yes he was born in Fredericksburg to illegals, and graduated from there then married his HS sweetheart. Those are facts.
Now you are just making crap up.

The only way the spouse of an American citizen is ever deported is if the U.S. can prove marriage fraud.

At least learn the laws before coming here and spreading this crap.
That's actually not true.

If you came over as a child of an illegal, you're what has been called a Dreamer. You've basically been illegal your whole life in the US.

Wife's co-worker was married to a Dreamer. He had to self deport to get legal status and is now back in the US legally and trying to get citizenship. But he had to leave to get the process started.


He was born in Fredericksburg to illegals. But yea that's what I understand is happening to some. Must do paperwork from there.
Ellis Wyatt
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Deerdude said:

Wife is legally citizen. Husband is not. Is it that difficult to grasp. She chose to stay with here husband, that's what many married folks choose to do. It did not work out financially so she returned.
You are the one who said he was born in the US. That makes him a citizen. People are pushing back because YOU said he was born here.

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My store managers husband was born in Fredericksburg to illegal parents

hth
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I wonder what the ratio of Deportation to Self-Deportation is?
agracer
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Deerdude said:

Wife is legally citizen. Husband is not. Is it that difficult to grasp. She chose to stay with here husband, that's what many married folks choose to do. It did not work out financially so she returned.

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Deerdude
8:52a

Close and personal story. My store managers husband was born in Fredericksburg to illegal parents.

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Deerdude
11:02a

On first question, they are married. I never said that she had to, I said she did. She was free to come and go, but also chose to try to keep the family together. Is that a bad thing?
Yes he was born in Fredericksburg to illegals, and graduated from there then married his HS sweetheart. Those are facts.
HE IS A US CITIZEN!

Why would he self deport?
Deerdude
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Funny that two separate immigration law firms, border patrol, and US Customs all tend to disagree with this take.
Ag with kids
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Deerdude said:

Again? Maybe read my post. SHE WAS NOT DEPORTED. She chose to try to keep her family together. Is that difficult to comprehend?
If HE was born in Fredricksburg, HE is not illegal.

Is SHE illegal?
BusterAg
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This thread:



Ag with kids
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Deerdude said:

agracer said:

BusterAg said:

Deerdude said:

On first question, they are married. I never said that she had to, I said she did. She was free to come and go, but also chose to try to keep the family together. Is that a bad thing?
Yes he was born in Fredericksburg to illegals, and graduated from there then married his HS sweetheart. Those are facts.
Now you are just making crap up.

The only way the spouse of an American citizen is ever deported is if the U.S. can prove marriage fraud.

At least learn the laws before coming here and spreading this crap.
That's actually not true.

If you came over as a child of an illegal, you're what has been called a Dreamer. You've basically been illegal your whole life in the US.

Wife's co-worker was married to a Dreamer. He had to self deport to get legal status and is now back in the US legally and trying to get citizenship. But he had to leave to get the process started.


He was born in Fredericksburg to illegals. But yea that's what I understand is happening to some. Must do paperwork from there.
Every single person born in Fredricksburg since 1845 has been a US citizen.

Doesn't matter if his parents are illegals.

In fact, that's the whole point of the dust up over birthright citizenship.
Ag with kids
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Deerdude said:

Funny that two separate immigration law firms, border patrol, and US Customs all tend to disagree with this take.
They're saying that birthright citizenship is not the case?

Then I guess Trump has already won his lawsuit prior to it hitting SCOTUS.
Ellis Wyatt
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Deerdude said:

Funny that two separate immigration law firms, border patrol, and US Customs all tend to disagree with this take.
Something in your story is not true. Only you can tell us what it is. My guess is that the dude was not born in the US.

Citizens are not deported. If they were, I have some folks I'd like to put on the list.
Deerdude
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Well, these are the facts. I spent nearly 5 figures on attorneys to help her. This husband is waiting in Mexico on the system to accept him, they've jumped through most of the hoops.
Ellis Wyatt
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Then the husband wasn't born in the US.
aggiehawg
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Quote:

The number of illegal U.S.-bound migrants passing through the dangerous Darin jungle plummeted by nearly 99 percent during the month of February 2025 when compared to February 2024, Panama's Migrant Authority revealed this week.

In its most recently published statistical report, Panama's Migrant Authority indicated that it recorded a total of 408 migrants passing through the Darin Gap during February 2025 an amount that represents a 98.9-percent drop from the total of 37,166 migrants logged during February 2024. Similarly, February 2025's statistics indicate a 81.68 percent reduction in the number of migrants when compared to the 2,229 migrants recorded by the Authority during January 2025.
LINK
agracer
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Deerdude said:

Well, these are the facts. I spent nearly 5 figures on attorneys to help her. This husband is waiting in Mexico on the system to accept him, they've jumped through most of the hoops.


Someone is lying.

Either they are, or the attorneys are scamming you out of almost 5 figures.
akm91
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All she needs is to get a copy of his birth certificate from Gillespie County to prove he's a US citizen.

Probably cost $100 or so to get it.
Deerdude
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Well the first one did exactly that. Firm owner was disbarred. Associate working our case moved to some other case. Manager has navigated it herself better and feeds info to attorney.
akm91
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Why does she need attorneys? He just needs his birth certificate to prove citizenship. Problem solved.
 
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