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My complete speculation is that there is a bunch of circumstantial stuff in the files that the left can spin to make it look like Trump was a pedo, even if he wasn't. But I also think he could have been one with the comments and stuff he's done. I don't think we will ever get the truth. I'd like to think that Trump had enough game being a billionaire playboy to get real women who were not minors. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. But

Lots of smoke around him and Epstein

The grab 'em by the ... comment

The affairs with porn stars

The Teen pageant stuff and him walking in the dressing room.

Him suppressing the Epstein files is not a good look.

The recent panic by him trying to suppress is not a good look.

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Don't forget moving Ghislaine to a better jail after meeting Deputy US Attorney General. Meeting with them and suddenly whisked to a cushier jail?

That recent email shows Maxwell was a liar about Trump. She testified that she didn't see Trump at Epstein's house, but Epstein's email to Maxwell said he "spent hours there" with Giuffre and she responded she had been "thinking about that." Not that anything bad happened, but why lie about it under oath?

Also, why wasn't she cross-examined with this email? Definitely weird stuff.

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for the dummies who claim Massie and MTG are part of MAGA:

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Why did Oversight Democrats redact Giuffre's name?

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It's because this victim, Virginia Giuffre, publicly said that she never witnessed wrongdoing by President Trump.

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This is another reason to release the files. Playing games with documents has less impact when all is out there for folks to see.

Next move for the church of MAGA is to deploy the Charlie Kirk strategy, bemoaning the "lack of context" for all the horrible things that will be revealed of President Trump. Between that and "but what about Pedo Joe" they will make this out to be some witch hunt. Finally when the collective consciousness is so depleted of energy, the defense will be a more brazen: "so what?" And that's why DJT truly believed it when he said he could unalive someone on 5th Avenue. Because he can.

Dan Carlin said:

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Next move for the church of MAGA is to deploy the Charlie Kirk strategy, bemoaning the "lack of context" for all the horrible things that will be revealed of President Trump. Between that and "but what about Pedo Joe" they will make this out to be some witch hunt. Finally when the collective consciousness is so depleted of energy, the defense will be a more brazen: "so what?" And that's why DJT truly believed it when he said he could unalive someone on 5th Avenue. Because he can.

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The problem your side has, Danny Boy, is that it routinely has to embellish or outright lie with the allegations against Trump.

Steele Dossier. Vindman. Stormy. Redacting the name of an individual who has already publicly stated Trump was not one of her abusers.

If he truly was the person you believe him to be, then you would not have to engage in these dishonest activities.

Henriques said:

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Dan Carlin said:

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Next move for the church of MAGA is to deploy the Charlie Kirk strategy, bemoaning the "lack of context" for all the horrible things that will be revealed of President Trump. Between that and "but what about Pedo Joe" they will make this out to be some witch hunt. Finally when the collective consciousness is so depleted of energy, the defense will be a more brazen: "so what?" And that's why DJT truly believed it when he said he could unalive someone on 5th Avenue. Because he can.

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The problem your side has, Danny Boy, is that it routinely has to embellish or outright lie with the allegations against Trump.

Steele Dossier. Vindman. Stormy. Redacting the name of an individual who has already publicly stated Trump was not one of her abusers.

If he truly was the person you believe him to be, then you would not have to engage in these dishonest activities.

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Dan Carlin is not a side buddy. Dan Carlin is a state of mind. I advise the common man from your side and the other join in instead of supporting actors that wouldn't spit on you if you were on fire.

wtf does that mean? What politician would spit on you if you were on fire? Sure isn't the Dems.

Henriques said:

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Dan Carlin said:

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Next move for the church of MAGA is to deploy the Charlie Kirk strategy, bemoaning the "lack of context" for all the horrible things that will be revealed of President Trump. Between that and "but what about Pedo Joe" they will make this out to be some witch hunt. Finally when the collective consciousness is so depleted of energy, the defense will be a more brazen: "so what?" And that's why DJT truly believed it when he said he could unalive someone on 5th Avenue. Because he can.

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The problem your side has, Danny Boy, is that it routinely has to embellish or outright lie with the allegations against Trump.

Steele Dossier. Vindman. Stormy. Redacting the name of an individual who has already publicly stated Trump was not one of her abusers.

If he truly was the person you believe him to be, then you would not have to engage in these dishonest activities.

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I don't have a side. Seek a non-dualistic way to live in this world and you will find more peace inside yourself.

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Henriques said:

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Dan Carlin said:

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Next move for the church of MAGA is to deploy the Charlie Kirk strategy, bemoaning the "lack of context" for all the horrible things that will be revealed of President Trump. Between that and "but what about Pedo Joe" they will make this out to be some witch hunt. Finally when the collective consciousness is so depleted of energy, the defense will be a more brazen: "so what?" And that's why DJT truly believed it when he said he could unalive someone on 5th Avenue. Because he can.

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The problem your side has, Danny Boy, is that it routinely has to embellish or outright lie with the allegations against Trump.

Steele Dossier. Vindman. Stormy. Redacting the name of an individual who has already publicly stated Trump was not one of her abusers.

If he truly was the person you believe him to be, then you would not have to engage in these dishonest activities.

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Dan Carlin is not a side buddy. Dan Carlin is a state of mind. I advise the common man from your side and the other join in instead of supporting actors that wouldn't spit on you if you were on fire.

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This, good lord.

What is so hard about this? Arrest the pedophiles. Release all the information, clean house.

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Dan Carlin is not a side buddy. Dan Carlin is a state of mind. I advise the common man from your side and the other join in instead of supporting actors that wouldn't spit on you if you were on fire.

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There are people who would willingly smoke a hot dog or two over my pyre.

They are the same ones who tried to kill the President last year.

Dan Carlin said:

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I don't have a side. Seek a non-dualistic way to live in this world and you will find more peace inside yourself.

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Like hell you don't, comrade.

And killed Kirk or at least celebrated it.

Dan Carlin said:

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Dan Carlin said:

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Next move for the church of MAGA is to deploy the Charlie Kirk strategy, bemoaning the "lack of context" for all the horrible things that will be revealed of President Trump. Between that and "but what about Pedo Joe" they will make this out to be some witch hunt. Finally when the collective consciousness is so depleted of energy, the defense will be a more brazen: "so what?" And that's why DJT truly believed it when he said he could unalive someone on 5th Avenue. Because he can.

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The problem your side has, Danny Boy, is that it routinely has to embellish or outright lie with the allegations against Trump.

Steele Dossier. Vindman. Stormy. Redacting the name of an individual who has already publicly stated Trump was not one of her abusers.

If he truly was the person you believe him to be, then you would not have to engage in these dishonest activities.

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I don't have a side. Seek a non-dualistic way to live in this world and you will find more peace inside yourself.

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Ya, that's why you only criticize one party on this board

Teslag said:

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Ya, that's why you only criticize one party on this board

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Marxism only has one side for people like this.

Wrong. Compromise kisses had given us a tax system that rapes me while letting moochers get away with paying nothing. It's also caused the complete destruction of the black community.

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FWTXAg said:

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Henriques said:

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Dan Carlin said:

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Next move for the church of MAGA is to deploy the Charlie Kirk strategy, bemoaning the "lack of context" for all the horrible things that will be revealed of President Trump. Between that and "but what about Pedo Joe" they will make this out to be some witch hunt. Finally when the collective consciousness is so depleted of energy, the defense will be a more brazen: "so what?" And that's why DJT truly believed it when he said he could unalive someone on 5th Avenue. Because he can.

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The problem your side has, Danny Boy, is that it routinely has to embellish or outright lie with the allegations against Trump.

Steele Dossier. Vindman. Stormy. Redacting the name of an individual who has already publicly stated Trump was not one of her abusers.

If he truly was the person you believe him to be, then you would not have to engage in these dishonest activities.

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Dan Carlin is not a side buddy. Dan Carlin is a state of mind. I advise the common man from your side and the other join in instead of supporting actors that wouldn't spit on you if you were on fire.

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This, good lord.

What is so hard about this? Arrest the pedophiles. Release all the information, clean house.

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To anyone who truly wants justice, getting all the info on every pedophile and arresting everyone and anyone that's involved should be no brainer to support.

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This, good lord.

What is so hard about this? Arrest the pedophiles. Release all the information, clean house.

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I fully agree with you.

But it is hard to accept the sincerity of Democrats on the Oversight Committee when they intentionally withhold the name of the victim, knowing full well she publicly cleared the President of any wrongdoing against her.

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" You leftists always show you true character. Bill Clinton has no use for you anymore, so you'll gladly throw him to the scrap heap now"

Because this is what you do if someone you previously idolized turns out to be a pedophile. This is called "learning".

If Bill Clinton is part of this, yes, he deserves all punishment.

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Haha right, MAGA is so mind warped around worshipping Trump. I would toss Obama, Biden, Buttigieg...whoever in jail if they were complicit in abusing children. This should be a unifying issue.

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Yeah, if this isn't completely bogus...like so many alegations lies and smears against Trump over the last decade, then he deserves to be punished accordingly. Everyone I know is in this same boat. It's just hard for us to believe certain allegations when democrats have flung so much poo over the years.

Yall cried wolf so hard that not a single one of you can be trusted or taken seriously...we will have to see how this shakes out. Who knows, maybe you are finally right about something? I am doubtful that Trump was banging minors, but we shall see either way, God willing.

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Former owner of Miss Teen USA and long time documented friend of child trafficker, Jeffrey Epstein. During a 2005 radio interview, Trump bragged to Stern about using his status as pageant owner to enter the dressing room while under age contestants were changing. Trump said, "I'm allowed to go in because I'm the owner of the pageant and therefore I'm inspecting it," and added, "I sort of get away with things like that".

We know he had a close personal relationship with Epstein for years. We know he's been on the plane. We know he's bragged about assaulting women. We know he's been accused and found civilly liable for assaulting a woman.

The circumstantial evidence that Trump knew or was complicit is staggering.

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wtf does that mean? What politician would spit on you if you were on fire? Sure isn't the Dems.

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It means Donald Trump, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, JD Vance, Nancy Pelosi, etc. laugh at their supporters over a steak dinner together while you cheerleaders wave your pom poms.

The problem is we know the Carrol thing was BS so it throws a shade all on the other claims. If you guys would have dialed back on some of the obvious witch hunts you might have credibility

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During a 2005 radio interview, Trump bragged to Stern..

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Good gosh. Dragging up fake facebook claims from nearly 10 years ago, that's been long-since proven to be false and taken out of context?

Two options here:
1. You believe it, which is sad, since it's been debunked, but you've avoided the truth for 10 years.
2. You know it's not legitimate, but post it anyway.

This may be the only issue Rs and Dems agree on. Arrest all the pedos without regard to status, wealth or party and lock them up.

Then lets go back to them disagreeing on everything.

Teslag said:

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Dan Carlin said:

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Henriques said:

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Dan Carlin said:

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Next move for the church of MAGA is to deploy the Charlie Kirk strategy, bemoaning the "lack of context" for all the horrible things that will be revealed of President Trump. Between that and "but what about Pedo Joe" they will make this out to be some witch hunt. Finally when the collective consciousness is so depleted of energy, the defense will be a more brazen: "so what?" And that's why DJT truly believed it when he said he could unalive someone on 5th Avenue. Because he can.

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The problem your side has, Danny Boy, is that it routinely has to embellish or outright lie with the allegations against Trump.

Steele Dossier. Vindman. Stormy. Redacting the name of an individual who has already publicly stated Trump was not one of her abusers.

If he truly was the person you believe him to be, then you would not have to engage in these dishonest activities.

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I don't have a side. Seek a non-dualistic way to live in this world and you will find more peace inside yourself.

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Ya, that's why you only criticize one party on this board

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When the Democrats have power again then they'll be worthy of real criticism. At present the most I got is that they're doing a terrible job preventing the rise of authoritarianism, and indeed are culpable themselves for having not had a fair primary since 2008.

Dan Carlin said:

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Teslag said:

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Dan Carlin said:

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Henriques said:

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Dan Carlin said:

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Next move for the church of MAGA is to deploy the Charlie Kirk strategy, bemoaning the "lack of context" for all the horrible things that will be revealed of President Trump. Between that and "but what about Pedo Joe" they will make this out to be some witch hunt. Finally when the collective consciousness is so depleted of energy, the defense will be a more brazen: "so what?" And that's why DJT truly believed it when he said he could unalive someone on 5th Avenue. Because he can.

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The problem your side has, Danny Boy, is that it routinely has to embellish or outright lie with the allegations against Trump.

Steele Dossier. Vindman. Stormy. Redacting the name of an individual who has already publicly stated Trump was not one of her abusers.

If he truly was the person you believe him to be, then you would not have to engage in these dishonest activities.

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I don't have a side. Seek a non-dualistic way to live in this world and you will find more peace inside yourself.

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Ya, that's why you only criticize one party on this board

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When the Democrats have power again then they'll be worthy of real criticism. At present the most I got is that they're doing a terrible job preventing the rise of authoritarianism, and indeed are culpable themselves for having not had a fair primary since 2008.

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That's really convenient for you Mr Objectivity. I missed all your posts about democrats during Covid.

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wtf does that mean? What politician would spit on you if you were on fire? Sure isn't the Dems.

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It means Donald Trump, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, JD Vance, Nancy Pelosi, etc. laugh at their supporters over a steak dinner together while you cheerleaders wave your pom poms.

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And yet only Trump comes within less of an inch of getting a bullet to the head because of an establishment you claim he represents.

Please.

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backintexas2013 said:

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wtf does that mean? What politician would spit on you if you were on fire? Sure isn't the Dems.

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It means Donald Trump, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, JD Vance, Nancy Pelosi, etc. laugh at their supporters over a steak dinner together while you cheerleaders wave your pom poms.

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And yet only Trump comes within less of an inch of getting a bullet to the head because of an establishment you claim he represents.

Please.

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Only Trump? In what Universe do you reside? Democrats have had assasination attemps on their lives as well, which of course means nothing but I at least wanted to respond to your useless comment.

The establishment didn't try to kill Trump or Pelosi. Crazy people did. If the establishment wanted any of them dead, they would be long gone.

Why is Trump fighting so hard and meeting with congress members to get their name off petition to release the files? In the situation room of all places.

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The problem is we know the Carrol thing was BS so it throws a shade all on the other claims. If you guys would have dialed back on some of the obvious witch hunts you might have credibility

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lol it's bs that a jury of peers found him liable? To the point that his own words and actions are irrelevant?

MAGA is broken.

"Juries are never wrong" - Hullabloonatic

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Why is Trump fighting so hard and meeting with congress members to get their name off petition to release the files? In the situation room of all places.

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QAnon predicted this.

QAnon also said vote for Trump.

QAnon lied. Or is stupid.

The E Jean Carrol trial was kinda ridiculous so many years after. And I've been no fan of Trump.

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Why is Trump fighting so hard and meeting with congress members to get their name off petition to release the files? In the situation room of all places.

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rhetorical question, i know, but we've known the answer for at least 6 months. bondi told him in may that his name is in the files, and his switch up from "i will release the files!" to "democrat hoax!" followed shortly thereafter.

but the panic posting on truth social and desperate calls to republican congress members about the petition sure don't make it seem like he thinks it's a hoax.

1. I expect them to have "found" 1 vote to defect and not push this Massie vote any further.
2. If they do pass, I believe it has to rest for 7+ days and then has to be scheduled within 2?

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Teslag said:

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The problem is we know the Carrol thing was BS so it throws a shade all on the other claims. If you guys would have dialed back on some of the obvious witch hunts you might have credibility

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lol it's bs that a jury of peers found him liable? To the point that his own words and actions are irrelevant?

MAGA is broken.

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There was no burden of proof. All that happened was that the jury decided that it probably happened. A jury pooled from a biased area.

Only a fool actually believes the Carrol buffoon.