The bee right again (teen trans surgery)

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Grok -- "In early February 2026 (specifically around February 3-4), the American Society of Plastic Surgeons (ASPS) the largest professional organization representing plastic surgeons in the U.S., with over 11,000 members released a new position statement recommending that gender-affirming surgeries (including chest/breast, genital, and facial procedures) for individuals under age 19 be delayed until at least age 19."

The Bee's version -
" U.S. The American Society of Plastic Surgeons has officially recommended that surgeons stop doing those gender surgeries on minors that absolutely no one was doing."

https://babylonbee.com/news/american-society-of-plastic-surgeons-recommends-no-longer-doing-those-surgeries-that-no-one-was-doing

Sue them all.
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Shockingly, we've been more far left wing on this topic than Europe.
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Mutilating the sex organs of minors is the worst evil that this country has been a part of since slavery.

Every single person that made a single cent off this practice needs to be sued to the poor house for the rest of their lives.
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And anyone involved in any part of research, a consult or recommendation lose their medical license. They shouldn't even be qualified to work as a janitor at a medical center.
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Every single person that made a single cent off this practice needs to be sued to the poor house for the rest of their lives.


Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
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Ginormus Ag said:

And anyone involved in any part of research, a consult or recommendation lose their medical license. They shouldn't even be qualified to work as a janitor at a medical center.


Add those who teach this as normal.
Urban Ag
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The doctors, surgeons, medical professionals, all knew this a decade ago. Longer.

Absolutely criminal.

Burn them all down.
Urban Ag
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Owlagdad said:

Ginormus Ag said:

And anyone involved in any part of research, a consult or recommendation lose their medical license. They shouldn't even be qualified to work as a janitor at a medical center.


Add those who teach this as normal.

Add the parents.

Yeah, I said it. If your parents signed off on this sue them for everything they have or ever will.
Martels Hammer
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And we have an Epstein connection this week. The emails from the Biologist explaining it as perversion etc.

Sorry don't have a link right now.
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It's a shame all the old threads were probably from before the f16 purge happened. Would be interested to go back and see what posters were adamant that cutting body parts off of minors was the proper thing to do.
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JK Rowling from the top rope. She was cancelled more than anyone for just having common sense and some empathy. Very well written response to the news.

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Urban Ag said:

Owlagdad said:

Ginormus Ag said:

And anyone involved in any part of research, a consult or recommendation lose their medical license. They shouldn't even be qualified to work as a janitor at a medical center.


Add those who teach this as normal.

Add the parents.

Yeah, I said it. If your parents signed off on this sue them for everything they have or ever will.

This too.

If you believe your parents encouraged / coerced you, and you feel bitter, bring the lawsuit.

If you had a psychologist and they recommended this, bring the lawsuit.

If you had a teacher and encouraged transition, bring the lawsuit.

Every single person that encouraged this behavior to a minor should be held financially responsible, and feel lucky that they won't face jailtime.
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https://nypost.com/2026/01/31/us-news/detransitioner-wins-2-million-against-new-york-docs-who-pushed-double-mastectomy/


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A 22-year-old woman who identified as a boy in her teen years won a $2 million decision in a landmark lawsuit against New York doctors accused of pushing a double mastectomy on her when she was a minor.
Fox Varian had the life-altering surgery when she was just 16-years-old getting approval from a psychologist and a surgeon both of whom a jury found liable of medical malpractice on Jan. 30, The Epoch Times reported.

EDIT: Sorry ,missed this was already posted.
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Rowling's post for those of you that don't like to click on X:

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A young detransitioner, Fox Varian, has won $2 million damages in a medical malpractice lawsuit, in which she sued the psychologist and surgeon who approved her for a double mastectomy, aged 16. Varian's mother testified that she'd been against the surgery, but was pressured into agreeing because she'd been told that unless her daughter transitioned she was likely to commit suicide.

As the floodgates open, and more and more detransitioners sue the clinicians who subjected them to an unregulated medical experiment, gender identity activists will almost certainly continue to ignore any evidence that fails to support their preferred narrative. They'll keep insisting that hardly any transitioned people regret their irreversible procedures, that gender clinicians know exactly what they're doing, that surgeries, cross-sex hormones and puberty blockers are of proven benefit and that minors who're denied these treatments will to kill themselves. All of this is a lie.

Speaking at the WPATH conference in 2021, British endocrinology consultant Leighton Seal admitted 'we are doing procedures here where we don't have outcome data.' A woman from Utah said she felt gender clinicians like her were making it up as they went along: 'Because I feel like we're all just winging it, you know? And which is okay, you're winging it too. But maybe we can just, like, wing it together.' (https://thefp.com/p/were-all-just-winging-it-what-the)

This will go down in history as one of the worst medical scandals of all time. Adults inside and outside the medical profession sold troubled young people like Varian the idea that all of their complex trauma would be resolved by removing healthy body parts.

As more and more detransitioners arrive in court, the public will learn the full extent of the harm done to kids in the name of an ideology. Clinicians performing these 'treatments' will go down in history as barbarous activists who betrayed a sacred oath: to do no harm. But we should never forget how many people outside the medical profession urged these young people on, gleefully assuring them that anyone advising caution was an evil bigot. There are people in elitist professions like publishing and academia, not to mention politicians and celebrities with young fan bases, who did all they could to champion the idea of gender identity, and kept pushing it even as the evidence of harm mounted. They're just as culpable as the clinicians. Too lazy to think more deeply than the fashionable mantras that got them social media likes, too arrogant to look at evidence from anyone outside their political bubble, they've slurred whistleblowers and attacked anyone with valid questions. In doing so, they've created a cultural climate without which this appalling tragedy could not have taken place.

Never forget, because only by learning the lesson can we stop this happening again.

The lie that not transitioning might lead to suicide is going to be the easiest legal path for the early lawsuits in this industry. Saying that denying transition is likely to lead to suicide is simply making stuff up. Scaring parents into submission with the threat of death is incredibly insidious.

There were enough of these mutilating barbarians that relied on that logic to set some early precedents that will create a tidal wave. This could get bad enough that we see a tobacco industry type settlement, where practitioners in the industry have the option to agree to pay some certain amount to be part of one large settlement across the entire industry, any malpractice insurance companies that were backing these procedures go completely bankrupt, and the lawyers involved make lots of money.
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Martels Hammer said:

And we have an Epstein connection this week. The emails from the Biologist explaining it as perversion etc.

Sorry don't have a link right now.



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This is sickening… now you know why testosterone levels in men are at all time lows.

Epstein and Renowned Biologist Trivers Privately Discussed "Benefits" of Hormone Treatments for Trans Kids and "Novel" Feminine Male Phenotypes in Graphic 2018 Email

In summary…Trivers described how blocking testosterone and adding estrogen could create "more feminine men" (male-to-female transitions), calling them more common, sexually attractive, and even "the best of both worlds". He contrasted this sharply with female-to-male transitions, which he dismissed as unhappy and undesirable.

He also mentioned concern about the growing trend of giving hormones to very young children (e.g., a 3-year-old showing "trans tendencies"), saying he would be frightened to do it himself but adding "who knows?"

Modern day Magnus Hirschfeld
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Eliminating this evil practice has been one of the things I have been vocal about since at least 2021.

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3199310/replies/59298271
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BusterAg said:

Mutilating the sex organs of minors is the worst evil that this country has been a part of since slavery.

Every single person that made a single cent off this practice needs to be sued to the poor house for the rest of their lives.


Abortion is worse but your point still stands. 30% of Gen Z has been aborted. Far out paces holocaust numbers.
Yukon Cornelius
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Always comes back to certain ethnic group trying to destroy other ethnic groups. Everytime.
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Breaking* youre born with the junk or lack of junk you should be with nearly 100 percent of the time
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Suicide higher most likely with those who got the surgery. If sterilizes them too. Depressed people will still be depressed after the surgery and the surgery adds to depression.
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Whoop2 said:

Suicide higher most likely with those who got the surgery. If sterilizes them too. Depressed people will still be depressed after the surgery and the surgery adds to depression.


The science behind the suicide claims have been well debunked yet they are still trotting it out. It's bad studies
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BusterAg said:

Mutilating the sex organs of minors is the worst evil that this country has been a part of since slavery.

Every single person that made a single cent off this practice needs to be sued to the poor house for the rest of their lives.


It will be the subject of horror films and psychological suspense movies in the 2050s.
It's like a black mirror episode.
AtticusMatlock
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The AMA has now released a statement in agreement. They seem to have been waiting for another org to put it out first but then quickly followed.
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It's taken that one lawsuit and now they're all scared. They aren't doing it for the right reasons but at least they're doing it.
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Yukon Cornelius said:

BusterAg said:

Mutilating the sex organs of minors is the worst evil that this country has been a part of since slavery.

Every single person that made a single cent off this practice needs to be sued to the poor house for the rest of their lives.


Abortion is worse but your point still stands. 30% of Gen Z has been aborted. Far out paces holocaust numbers.

Communists kill people? Who knew?
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ts5641 said:

It's taken that one lawsuit and now they're all scared. They aren't doing it for the right reasons but at least they're doing it.

It was all about money from the beginning. now, still about money.
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BusterAg said:

Mutilating the sex organs of minors is the worst evil that this country has been a part of since slavery.

Every single person that made a single cent off this practice needs to be sued to the poor house for the rest of their lives.

Goodness, has everyone already erased the abortions of living children from their consciousness?
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Martels Hammer
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AtticusMatlock said:

The AMA has now released a statement in agreement. They seem to have been waiting for another org to put it out first but then quickly followed.


Cowards
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I've always believe that the "live son or dead daughter" trope was nothing more than emotional blackmail.
People of integrity expect to be believed, when they're not, they let time prove them right.
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Modern day lobotomies.

Great news on that suit.

Bankrupt every single one of these doctors, teachers, bozos that promote this BS.
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AtticusMatlock said:

The AMA has now released a statement in agreement. They seem to have been waiting for another org to put it out first but then quickly followed.

Can you link it?
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The minimal age for gender transition therapy (i.e. hormones and counseling to transgender) and surgery ought to be at least 30.
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flyrancher said:

BusterAg said:

Mutilating the sex organs of minors is the worst evil that this country has been a part of since slavery.

Every single person that made a single cent off this practice needs to be sued to the poor house for the rest of their lives.

Goodness, has everyone already erased the abortions of living children from their consciousness?


The abortion issue depends on when you believe life begins. Many people have a religious belief about this that is well supported by their religion. Without making a religious argument though, people can disagree about when life begins. Not every person is religious. It is helpful to make that distinction.

Your opinion on how evil abortion is depends on the above conclusion.

But there is no question that a 14 year old young lady that has gender dysphoria is a person, and to cut off her breasts is irreversible and evil. There is no excuse. I stand behind my comment that the mutilation of minors is the worst evil that this country has been a part of since slavery.
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eric76 said:

The minimal age for gender transition therapy (i.e. hormones and counseling to transgender) and surgery ought to be at least 30.

25 is the last meaningful birthday, because at 25 you can legally rent a car. That might be a good age to set the standard at, and defendable.

18 is too young. If you can't buy tobacco or alcohol, you still have some growing up left to do.

I think that 21 is still to young even, but that position is defendable.

25 would be my preference. Unless we completely banned it, which I am on the fence about.
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