World's top physicists say AI has won and to prepare for what comes after

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The smartest people in the world are having emergency meetings about AI and admit it can already do 90% of their own work. We're quickly entering a world where humans no longer understand what is going on and that technological advances are happening with little to no human involvement.



I've tested Claude for a few things at work. I'm a technical expert in environmental regulations and I had it made connection between two regulations to figure out a connection or crossover and it provided a summary and made a connection better than I could. I remember when ChatGPT first came out and I tried this, it was garbage. In just a few years it has already surpassed me. That was a true eye-opening moment for me.

I don't see how we won't start seeing massive job loss from this within the year. It's trivial to do data analysis with this. There is very little anyone does sitting at a computer that could not be improved or exceeded by AI outside of perhaps sales.

The speed at which these changes have come is insane. I don't see any reason to assume any sort of slowdown any time soon.
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This should make the PhD's pucker. We could be watching their replacement in real time.

"But here's what actually shook Kipping. He fed ChatGPT an integral that Mathematica couldn't solve. Mathematica has been the gold standard for symbolic computation for three decades. It failed. The model produced the full chain of substitutions and transformations, and numerical verification confirmed the result.

When the tool built specifically for symbolic math loses to a general-purpose language model on its home turf, you're watching a capability crossover in real time.

And the downstream math gets uncomfortable fast. Training a PhD student costs roughly $100K per year. A model subscription costs $20 per month. A first-year project that takes a student twelve months, the model finishes in an evening. The people in that room can see where those lines intersect, which is why they're holding emergency meetings instead of writing grant proposals."
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Of all the dumb **** we've done as human beings, AI might end up being the worst other than voting democrat.
rocky the dog
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
fc2112
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Looks like a great time to retire.
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Just like any other great leap in industry, adapt or die. One of the problems is the lie we were all told that the more educated you are the less likely you are to face layoffs. Which has been true for decades. Additionally this is the first big industrial leap that is targeting this class of people. PhD weren't worried when robots started taking blue collar jobs, their response "retrain". Well, my response to the PhD's, retrain. The blue collar worker is having a moment.

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Hopefully AI can write more accurate climate models so we can drop the climate change nonsense
Cynic
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How will we know when AI gets something wrong if we no longer understand anything?
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Burdizzo said:

Hopefully AI can write more accurate climate models so we can drop the climate change nonsense

That may be what saves us. Scientists will never give up their "models" that allow them to predict the end of the world.

Wait. Isn't that what these asshats are doing?
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Cynic said:

How will we know when AI gets something wrong if we no longer understand anything?


Because we don't value right or wrong anymore. Just who finishes first.
Pinochet
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riverrataggie said:

Cynic said:

How will we know when AI gets something wrong if we no longer understand anything?


Because we don't value right or wrong anymore. Just who finishes first.

Good lord. First my girlfriend and now you complaining about who finishes first?
Spergin
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reineraggie09 said:

Just like any other great leap in industry, adapt or die. One of the problems is the lie we were all told that the more educated you are the less likely you are to face layoffs. Which has been true for decades. Additionally this is the first big industrial leap that is targeting this class of people. PhD weren't worried when robots started taking blue collar jobs, their response "retrain". Well, my response to the PhD's, retrain. The blue collar worker is having a moment.




There is no adapting to something that is intellectually better than you. It's like a 70 IQ person competing with someone who has a 130 IQ. It will literally never happen.

If you don't think this won't impact your industry or your job even if you don blue collar work then you're delusional. The next step after this is robotics, which is why companies like Tesla are going full bore into that too.



It's now effectively eliminating the need for advanced chemistry and giving people step by step instructions on how to build the advanced materials it created.

It's coming for your job and there is little if any you can do about it. This isn't doomer speak, it's just reality.
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Burdizzo said:

Hopefully AI can write more accurate climate models so we can drop the climate change nonsense


It already does. The AI meteorological models are exceeding the primary climate models now. That is, they are already proving better than the ECMWF and GFS. And that's after just one year.
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Pinochet said:

Burdizzo said:

Hopefully AI can write more accurate climate models so we can drop the climate change nonsense

That may be what saves us. Scientists will never give up their "models" that allow them to predict the end of the world.

Wait. Isn't that what these asshats are doing?


They won't have a choice. Hence the reason they have already started integrating AI into their existing models.
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Pinochet said:

riverrataggie said:

Cynic said:

How will we know when AI gets something wrong if we no longer understand anything?


Because we don't value right or wrong anymore. Just who finishes first.

Good lord. First my girlfriend and now you complaining about who finishes first?


Well done.
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Add the OP's account to this list of paid shills on this site.

Sadly you have to wonder (not question, of course) if this sort of garbage is Texags-approved since this board is overly represented with non Ags who post twitter links and are protected by subscription stars.
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I keep hearing things like this and simultaneously, in real time, I see how AI is incredibly inconsistent and often times just makes things up.

And I see how the music and movies that AI make are shallow and tellingly not the real thing.
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Cynic said:

How will we know when AI gets something wrong if we no longer understand anything?


The way things have been solved forever. Trial & Error.
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I'm not saying AI isn't concerning.

I am saying that a bunch of theoretical physicists aren't the best source regarding real world implications.
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fc2112 said:

Looks like a great time to retire.

Officially retired for 7 days. Freshman…..Wildcat!!!

Huge electrical manufacturing company, really starting to immerse everyone in AI. Really neat technology everything from summarizing meeting to composing emails. Just wasn't for me…too old I guess.

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Mega Lops said:

Add the OP's account to this list of paid shills on this site.

Sadly you have to wonder (not question, of course) if this sort of garbage is Texags-approved since this board is overly represented with non Ags who post twitter links and are protected by subscription stars.


Bizarre derail attempt.


The OP is discussing a valid issue that will not just affect you but all of humanity eventually. Go whine somewhere else or don't click the link if it's a topic you aren't interested in

It's not hard!

I'm Gipper
AxelFoley85
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Is that because your skills are irrelevant?
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You need experts in each field to know what to ask AI to do. As AI is taking our jobs it's taking away our ability to grow experts in each field.

That's going to be another big problem.
No, I don't care what CNN or Miss NOW said this time
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rocky the dog said:




F' ing teddy ruxpen. i knew he was up to n good so many years ago.
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Seamaster said:

I keep hearing things like this and simultaneously, in real time, I see how AI is incredibly inconsistent and often times just makes things up.

And I see how the music and movies that AI make are shallow and tellingly not the real thing.


You are correct, but look at what AI was doing just two years ago. It's improved astronomically in that time.



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5-10% bull**** rate of hallucinations is still too frequent to ever replace humans.

AI will spew a bunch of jargon, and humans will have to filter the outputs to what nonsense and what is true insights worth considering.

Problems arise when no more experts exist to do the filtering because all of the he roles were replaced by AI and new experts were created to replace those that retire.
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Pinochet said:

riverrataggie said:

Cynic said:

How will we know when AI gets something wrong if we no longer understand anything?


Because we don't value right or wrong anymore. Just who finishes first.

Good lord. First my girlfriend and now you complaining about who finishes first?

You need to tell your girlfriend ........"Dear, we both started at the same time. It ain't my fault you didn't finish."
Spergin
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Seamaster said:

I keep hearing things like this and simultaneously, in real time, I see how AI is incredibly inconsistent and often times just makes things up.

And I see how the music and movies that AI make are shallow and tellingly not the real thing.


This is how I know your information is 6+ months out of date. Hallucinations do occur but nothing like they used to. It can analyze better than any human can already.

If you're not keeping up with what is happening you absolutely should. It's happening at breakneck speed to such an extent that every tech company is in a near constant fire drill state. My friends who are programmers in that world say this constantly and no one can keep up.
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TexAgs91 said:

You need experts in each field to know what to ask AI to do. As AI is taking our jobs it's taking away our ability to grow experts in each field.

That's going to be another big problem.


And here we come to one of the big problems. How do you train new experts if entry level to intermediate level jobs are all gone and can be replaced in minutes with an agent?

I'm an expert in my field so I'm one of the safe ones for now, but frankly there is little reason to hire entry level people nowadays. What they do can be automated, it's not fair but it's reality.

Gen Z and alpha are legitimately screwed.
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Rattler12 said:

Pinochet said:

riverrataggie said:

Cynic said:

How will we know when AI gets something wrong if we no longer understand anything?


Because we don't value right or wrong anymore. Just who finishes first.

Good lord. First my girlfriend and now you complaining about who finishes first?

You need to tell your girlfriend ........"Dear, we both started at the same time. It ain't my fault you didn't finish."

And her response "it isn't a race". No AI needed.
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I used CLAUDE to create a Bibliography out of my book chapter endnotes.

Uploaded all 34 word document chapters.

it was able to take the endnotes and put them into a list-

but completely messed up the formatting such as the italics for subject titles

it could never correct this defect so I was back to doing it by hand manually the last week.

it would take so many actions that it seemed to be creating a nuclear device- yet at the end still failed to do the job correctly.
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When can they replace politicians? Will ai be conservative or liberal when it reaches total sentient s?
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I've seen AI confidently give me answers I know to be 100% incorrect. It is built on a mountain of junk source data so it can arrive at bad conclusions based on bad source data. In a narrow application where it is constrained to only validated source data, yea, it can be extremely fast and useful BUT it is still fallible, and must be spot checked.
Rapier108
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Another day, another AI doomsday thread.
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Well, the poster whose name rhymes with binfinity says he's FOS.
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