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shalackin
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I need replacement the pro seal on an old tractor we have. Where is your go to online order store for parts?
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I believe this is the break out. Am guessing I need part 2084207K?
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CanyonAg77
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If the oil is that color, you have water in the oil and bigger problems that a seal
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That looks like a Massey, Ferguson, or Massey Ferguson back end.

Sometimes, if fluids are...original....the condensation in the gear box can make the milkshake. Generally, they are underfilled which leaves even more air to condense moisture.

However....Canyon is correct in that it needs a watchful eye.

First, For your seal, I use AGCO OEM seals whenever possible. If you can't then see if you can find the dimensions and get a quality seal from somewhere, but I'd bet my boots that part is currently available from AGCO.

For the milkshake you have going on, change that hydraulic fluid with Tractor Supply Universal and see if it looks like that in a week. If it does, you need to do some digging and find out why.
shalackin
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Yes, it is a MF65. It sat outside for many years. had it fixed upside a couple of years ago and resides inside my shop building now. I don't know how much they hold, but as much as I have seen on the ground, there can't be too much left in there
Gunny456
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I have had good luck getting older tractor parts here:
https://www.brokentractor.com/
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jagsdad
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And then there's always Steiner tractor. We had a 65. Be sure to check those rubber boots around the shift sticks. They get old, let rain and moisture in.
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Same with a JD 2640…
CanyonAg77
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Quote:

For the milkshake you have going on, change that hydraulic fluid with Tractor Supply Universal and see if it looks like that in a week. If it does, you need to do some digging and find out why.

I suspect it may take two or more changes to get all the residual water out of that trans.
CanyonAg77
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I don't know how much they hold, but as much as I have seen on the ground, there can't be too much left in there

You'd be surprised. It takes very little oil hitting the ground to appear to be gallons of oil.

As others have mentioned before, I suspect water is getting in from above. A filler pipe or boot. Unless you've been driving through waist deep water.
BrazosDog02
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Yeah, probably. The last milkshake I saw was in the engine crankcase and that was a sleeve o ring. Not cool.
CanyonAg77
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Damage depends on if he ran it this way and for how long. What you describe is pretty catastrophic. But gearboxes on old tractors are pretty damn tough. A few changes, stopping more water from getting in, it could run another 60 years.
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CanyonAg77 said:

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For the milkshake you have going on, change that hydraulic fluid with Tractor Supply Universal and see if it looks like that in a week. If it does, you need to do some digging and find out why.

I suspect it may take two or more changes to get all the residual water out of that trans.

This. It needs more than just a change.

Drain. Fill. Run for about 30 mins. Drain again. Fill again. Run for about 30 mins. Check dipstick to see what the oil looks like. Repeat if necessary.

Yes, it is going to be a decent amount of money on fluid. But that money spent will be cheaper than anything that breaks or wears or shears inside the case.
CanyonAg77
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Ive been known to drain, fill with diesel, run for 20-30 seconds and drain, before I put oil back in. I wouldn't recommend that unless one is really sure of their mechanical abilities
Gunny456
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My dad used to flush crank cases with Kerosene ( which he used to call "coal oil")
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Gunny456 said:

My dad used to flush crank cases with Kerosene ( which he used to call "coal oil")

I haven't heard this in years. Thanks.
CanyonAg77
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Dad collected antique tractors, so we flushed plenty of gearboxes. It took me a while to figure out why the old Deeres had two fuel tanks. Turns out it was common practice to start on the one gallon tank of gasoline, then switch to the big tank of kerosene after the tractor warmed up.

You could save money that way, because kerosene was cheaper than gasoline, maybe 4 cents a gallon instead of 5 cents
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CanyonAg77 said:

Ive been known to drain, fill with diesel, run for 20-30 seconds and drain, before I put oil back in. I wouldn't recommend that unless one is really sure of their mechanical abilities

Only problem with diesel is that it can, depending on what all you are filling, have a negative effect on seals. Possibly. But it does work for sure.
Gunny456
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It was my grandfathers natural remedy cure all too. If you got stung by a wasp or scorpion put "coal oil" on it, cut your hand? Stick it in a can of "coal oil". Get a fish hook in your hand….rub "coal oil" in it. Ingrown toe nail? Yep soak it in coal oil.
Thing was there never was any infection for sure.
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O.G.
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Gunny456 said:

It was my grandfathers natural remedy cure all too. If you got stung by a wasp or scorpion put "coal oil" on it, cut your hand? Stick it in a can of "coal oil". Get a fish hook in your hand….rub "coal oil" in it. Ingrown toe nail? Yep soak it in coal oil.
Thing was there never was any infection for sure.

I've heard of that that as well. Supposed to be a treatment for mange on dogs too.
1990Hullaballoo
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Catch something from you're girlfriend...



wait a minute - I don't think so!
CanyonAg77
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Seems like dad said he got a spoon full of sugar…soaked in coal oil. Would cure whatever he had.

Or maybe. He pretended to be cured, in order to avoid a second dose
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In regards to seals, if you can measure the ID and OD of the socket and shaft and then the diameter of the old seal, you can order one with those specs of an oil proof material without having to find the original part. I do this all thd time with hydraulic seals. They are almost always a generic spec from the original design and not some unique one of a kind part design.

That way the manufacturer could source parts much more easily and cheaply to re-brand and hugely mark up.
schmellba99
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Gunny456 said:

It was my grandfathers natural remedy cure all too. If you got stung by a wasp or scorpion put "coal oil" on it, cut your hand? Stick it in a can of "coal oil". Get a fish hook in your hand….rub "coal oil" in it. Ingrown toe nail? Yep soak it in coal oil.
Thing was there never was any infection for sure.

It was my grandmother's universal remedy for all ills as well.
Gunny456
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