Good points. There are coaches who will look like absolute miracle workers to alumni and serious observers, but not rack up all the wins and championships they would have at a legacy program.

Jugstore Cowboy said:

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Good points. There are coaches who will look like absolute miracle workers to alumni and serious observers, but not rack up all the wins and championships they would have at a legacy program.

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It's the same as being handed the keys to a Lamborghini vs scrambling in the mud to earn one in my eyes. The coaches grinding out those mid programs and turning them into perennial contenders over and over are lauded in the media but never have a shot at the hardware to actually award them for it. Coach Schnellenberger is another case in point.

NoahAg said:

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Serious question: If he was still alive would you care?

Never understood the Leach love on TexAgs.

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My ninja

NoahAg said:

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Serious question: If he was still alive would you care?

Never understood the Leach love on TexAgs.

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It's a bit over the top, but I do think he's a hall of fame coach because of his innovations on offense


I'll never forget the crazy formations OU came out in in that 99 game in stoops first season and leach as oc


Had never seen anything like it until that night

His impact on the game is undeniable. Which should be the defining criteria of the Hall, subjective as it may seem on the surface.

I miss Coach Leach and Im very happy he is eligible for the HOF now.

He was a great man and good for the sport.

are there other coaches who are just missing the HoF due to .570 or .580 winning %?

I don't think Grant Teaff won 60% of his games at Baylor

Eliminatus said:

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His impact on the game is undeniable. Which should be the defining criteria of the Hall, subjective as it may seem on the surface.

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Agreed.

He has not only impacted the college game by changing the way coaches play offense but it has also fed up to the nfl level to some degree.

Agreed. I really, really had a deep disdain for Tech after the treatment I received at Jones Stadium. It wasn't until later I realized what a treasure he was. Any coach that can take a bunch of scrappy 2 stars and go into Kyle Field and win or beat the ranked team as the underdog reveals a lot about his coaching ability. I miss having the Pirate around. He made college football more entertaining.

https://www.si.com/college/tamu/football/tamu-aggies-mike-leach-texas-tech-mississippi-state-passing

NoahAg said:

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Serious question: If he was still alive would you care?

Never understood the Leach love on TexAgs.

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Watch his wedding planning rant and if you don't like him after that, it's a you problem.

They had to lower the win percentage to let him in.

He's not HOF

One of my favorite videos to watch on YouTube is a Mike Leach video after a Baylor game. I laugh out loud every time I watch it.

NoahAg said:

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Serious question: If he was still alive would you care?

Never understood the Leach love on TexAgs.

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I think a lot of people on this website identify with him as a person.

Agsrback12 said:

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College football without Mike Leach is lacking. He made Tehc and WSU national players out of nothing.

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He did??

NoahAg said:

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Serious question: If he was still alive would you care?

Never understood the Leach love on TexAgs.

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There aren't a lot of sheer geniuses in college football, and even fewer who aren't interested in playing the job-hopping game where you betray promises to kids over and over.

He was one in a million and made two also-rans in power conferences into teams that nobody wanted to play on the road or late and close. 158-107 from 2000-2022.

I never really understood the .60 rule in a vaccum

What about a coach who takes doormat teams to the highest level before going to another team to repeat the process?

That is really what Mike Leach did...and to do that over and over and over may not get you a high enough percentage to sustain .600

I read once about a coach in HS who would start new or previously horrible programs before moving on the start a new program rather than sustain the one created because he was "built" in his mind to create or fix and move on to start again....no way that gets you a huge winning percentage over a lifetime but he could be a great HOLF type coach compared to some who stay forever

2Legit_92 said:

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One of my favorite videos to watch on YouTube is a Mike Leach video after a Baylor game. I laugh out loud every time I watch it.

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His style of just speaking from his mind always gave us so many treasures. A casual or even flippant question would have him dissecting stuff like game film. This one always gives me a chuckle because who the hell expects an answer like this from a presser?



Also, we still have never really addressed what kind of mythical powers a sun devil may have and that is scary.

Even AI knows the greatness of the pirate.

Mike Leach: The Remorseless Pirate of College Football

Mike Leach was not so much a football coach as a maritime incident that somehow acquired a headset.

Born somewhere between a legal brief and a pirate mutiny, Leach spent his career steering ramshackle football programs that respectable people had forgotten existed. While other coaches sought glory at glittering football empires, Leach preferred universities that appeared to have been selected by spinning a globe, blindfolding himself, and throwing a harpoon.

His coaching stops included places where five-star recruits feared to tread, where the local wildlife occasionally outnumbered the student body, and where bowl eligibility was considered an ancient myth passed down by elders around campfires.

Armed with an offense that seemed equal parts football strategy, naval warfare, and fever dream, Leach transformed downtrodden programs into dangerous nuisances. Rich, powerful football aristocrats would spend all year crushing lesser opponents, only to discover that Leach's band of airborne pirates had appeared on the schedule carrying torches and throwing the football 70 times.

He possessed absolutely no remorse. Ranked teams entered his waters at their own peril. National championship contenders often left wondering why they had just been defeated by a roster assembled from overlooked recruits, former high school quarterbacks, and what appeared to be several men who had wandered in from a philosophy department.

Leach's press conferences were legendary. Asked about football, he might discuss pirates, wedding planning, mascots, alien invasions, or the strategic shortcomings of various historical figures. Reporters learned that every question carried the risk of becoming a 15-minute lecture on topics no journalism school had adequately prepared them to cover.

His enemies called him eccentric. His supporters called him brilliant. His players called him Coach. Historians may someday conclude that he was a pirate captain accidentally stranded in modern America, forced to raid college football instead of merchant vessels.

Against all logic, he won. Against all convention, he kept winning. And against all expectations, he left some of the sport's most powerful institutions with permanent emotional scars.

Mike Leach never conquered the biggest kingdoms. He simply sailed from one forgotten outpost to another, raised the black flag, and spent decades terrorizing the established order with absolutely no apologies.

mike leach wedding advice

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TX_COWDOC said:

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Agreed. I really, really had a deep disdain for Tech after the treatment I received at Jones Stadium. It wasn't until later I realized what a treasure he was. Any coach that can take a bunch of scrappy 2 stars and go into Kyle Field and win or beat the ranked team as the underdog reveals a lot about his coaching ability. I miss having the Pirate around. He made college football more entertaining.

https://www.si.com/college/tamu/football/tamu-aggies-mike-leach-texas-tech-mississippi-state-passing

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In regards to this article, that 2006 Tceh victory was in College Station in the last minute. Also, I was also at the 2002 OT loss. Yeah, I respected him, but I still didn't like him.

Davidtheag said:

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TX_COWDOC said:

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Agreed. I really, really had a deep disdain for Tech after the treatment I received at Jones Stadium. It wasn't until later I realized what a treasure he was. Any coach that can take a bunch of scrappy 2 stars and go into Kyle Field and win or beat the ranked team as the underdog reveals a lot about his coaching ability. I miss having the Pirate around. He made college football more entertaining.

https://www.si.com/college/tamu/football/tamu-aggies-mike-leach-texas-tech-mississippi-state-passing

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In regards to this article, that 2006 Tceh victory was in College Station in the last minute. Also, I was also at the 2002 OT loss. Yeah, I respected him, but I still didn't like him.

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The 2001 12-0 loss was embarrassing in every regard. Shut out by an offensive coach, A&M horribly unprepared and heavily favored, game not even televised. In retrospect, we deserved to have the goalposts shoved in our faces, players first, then the coaches.

He never won anything. Put him in the Hall of Very Good.

Milwaukees Best Light said:

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He never won anything. Put him in the Hall of Very Good.

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Yep, clearly not on the level of Jimbo Fisher or Gene Chizik.

another interesting thing about Leach...

he never played pro or college football

and the old guard doesn't like that

not supposed to be able to coach if you didn't play

So will Frantastic!

W said:

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another interesting thing about Leach...

he never played pro or college football

and the old guard doesn't like that

not supposed to be able to coach if you didn't play

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The thing I love most. Smart is smart. Millennials and Gen Z ar really caught up in the whole street-cred thing, but the "old guard" does it too.