"When you talk to general managers, they say the Padres are in big-time trouble. They're losing money."
— Foul Territory (@FoulTerritoryTV) November 11, 2025
Considering the amount of backloaded contracts the Padres have, could Fernando Tatis Jr. be on the move?@BNightengale won't rule it out in the future... pic.twitter.com/w0UMxPsiQM
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EastCoastAgNc said:Cam Smith finished 12th in AL ROY voting: pic.twitter.com/KsItJ9dsMD
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) November 11, 2025
you know regarding Cam...
it is a little concerning that he hit the rookie wall mid-season...and never bounced back. He was done.
sometimes rookies get a second wind in late August or September, but Cam was cooked after the first half
He also had his PT cut back significantly. The addition of Sanchez hitting left against RHP really cut Cam's ABs back the last two months of the season.
Cam also had A LOT MORE on his plate that I imagine the team wanted.
I'm not worried about Cam.
I'm not worried about Cam.
and seeing Kurtz's name again...
I trust Espada is working on a plan for Kurtz next year
just embarrassing that the rookie hit 9 HR and posted 18 RBI against the Astros
when his final season numbers were 36 HR and 86 RBI
25% of his homers and 21% of his RBI came in 10 games vs. Joe's bunch
I trust Espada is working on a plan for Kurtz next year
just embarrassing that the rookie hit 9 HR and posted 18 RBI against the Astros
when his final season numbers were 36 HR and 86 RBI
25% of his homers and 21% of his RBI came in 10 games vs. Joe's bunch
How on earth could san diego be losing money.
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
He had 4 HR and 8 RBIs in one game. Thats going to inflate the numbers quite a bit.
EastCoastAgNc said:"When you talk to general managers, they say the Padres are in big-time trouble. They're losing money."
— Foul Territory (@FoulTerritoryTV) November 11, 2025
Considering the amount of backloaded contracts the Padres have, could Fernando Tatis Jr. be on the move?@BNightengale won't rule it out in the future... pic.twitter.com/w0UMxPsiQM
Would you trade Cam, Walker, and Arrighetti for Tatis?
superaggie73 said:EastCoastAgNc said:"When you talk to general managers, they say the Padres are in big-time trouble. They're losing money."
— Foul Territory (@FoulTerritoryTV) November 11, 2025
Considering the amount of backloaded contracts the Padres have, could Fernando Tatis Jr. be on the move?@BNightengale won't rule it out in the future... pic.twitter.com/w0UMxPsiQM
Would you trade Cam, Walker, and Arrighetti for Tatis?
absolutely
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
What position is Tatis playing nowadays?
IIRC he was pretty awful as a defender and wasn't really a fit at LF or SS.
IIRC he was pretty awful as a defender and wasn't really a fit at LF or SS.
Great, another modern Altuve in the field.
Ag_07 said:
What position is Tatis playing nowadays?
IIRC he was pretty awful as a defender and wasn't really a fit at LF or SS.
Steroid user, bloated contract, immature. If we're going to expend that kind of trade capital I'd rather use it on someone else.
Espada finishes sixth for Manager of the Year in the AL. pic.twitter.com/l6XhPXfB2W
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) November 12, 2025
so perfectly average.EastCoastAgNc said:Espada finishes sixth for Manager of the Year in the AL. pic.twitter.com/l6XhPXfB2W
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) November 12, 2025
EastCoastAgNc said:Espada finishes sixth for Manager of the Year in the AL. pic.twitter.com/l6XhPXfB2W
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) November 12, 2025
Right below two dudes we fired.
Who gave him a 2nd place vote?
Espada wasn't close to the top 3 managers in the AL this year.
Espada wasn't close to the top 3 managers in the AL this year.
Mathguy64 said:
Who gave him a 2nd place vote?
Espada wasn't close to the top 3 managers in the AL this year.
Probably Jesus if Joe ever answered a question in Spanish.
#MNTwins OF Byron Buxton could consider waiving his no-trade clause for certain teams if MIN continues breaking up their roster, per @DanHayesMLB pic.twitter.com/kZMUKUMvv9
— MLB Deadline News (@MLBDeadlineNews) November 12, 2025
Mathguy64 said:
Who gave him a 2nd place vote?
Espada wasn't close to the top 3 managers in the AL this year.
He was until he wasn't. I'd argue he should have been the favorite around the ASB.
Mr.Bond said:superaggie73 said:EastCoastAgNc said:"When you talk to general managers, they say the Padres are in big-time trouble. They're losing money."
— Foul Territory (@FoulTerritoryTV) November 11, 2025
Considering the amount of backloaded contracts the Padres have, could Fernando Tatis Jr. be on the move?@BNightengale won't rule it out in the future... pic.twitter.com/w0UMxPsiQM
Would you trade Cam, Walker, and Arrighetti for Tatis?
absolutely
THIS
He's entering his age-27 season. He's under contract for 9 more years at ~32 M per. For a team desperate for major talent after the loss of some big names and the aging out of others, he's perfect. He plays a high-level RF (better than Cam) and would look great leading off right in front of Yordan.
Bulldog73 said:
Great, another modern Altuve in the field.
He would rank 2nd to only Dubon in Fielding Run Value for the 2025 Astros.
superaggie73 said:EastCoastAgNc said:"When you talk to general managers, they say the Padres are in big-time trouble. They're losing money."
— Foul Territory (@FoulTerritoryTV) November 11, 2025
Considering the amount of backloaded contracts the Padres have, could Fernando Tatis Jr. be on the move?@BNightengale won't rule it out in the future... pic.twitter.com/w0UMxPsiQM
Would you trade Cam, Walker, and Arrighetti for Tatis?
I think most people would. The padres wouldn't though
Farmer1906 said:Mr.Bond said:superaggie73 said:EastCoastAgNc said:"When you talk to general managers, they say the Padres are in big-time trouble. They're losing money."
— Foul Territory (@FoulTerritoryTV) November 11, 2025
Considering the amount of backloaded contracts the Padres have, could Fernando Tatis Jr. be on the move?@BNightengale won't rule it out in the future... pic.twitter.com/w0UMxPsiQM
Would you trade Cam, Walker, and Arrighetti for Tatis?
absolutely
THIS
He's entering his age-27 season. He's under contract for 9 more years at ~32 M per. For a team desperate for major talent after the loss of some big names and the aging out of others, he's perfect. He plays a high-level RF (better than Cam) and would look great leading off right in front of Yordan.
Is that enough to get Tatis? What if you had to throw in Yainer as well?
superaggie73 said:Farmer1906 said:Mr.Bond said:superaggie73 said:EastCoastAgNc said:"When you talk to general managers, they say the Padres are in big-time trouble. They're losing money."
— Foul Territory (@FoulTerritoryTV) November 11, 2025
Considering the amount of backloaded contracts the Padres have, could Fernando Tatis Jr. be on the move?@BNightengale won't rule it out in the future... pic.twitter.com/w0UMxPsiQM
Would you trade Cam, Walker, and Arrighetti for Tatis?
absolutely
THIS
He's entering his age-27 season. He's under contract for 9 more years at ~32 M per. For a team desperate for major talent after the loss of some big names and the aging out of others, he's perfect. He plays a high-level RF (better than Cam) and would look great leading off right in front of Yordan.
Is that enough to get Tatis? What if you had to throw in Yainer as well?
I'd say you are correct.
Here is how Baseball Trade Values each
- Smith 22.5
- Arrighetti 12.4
- Walker -25.2
- Diaz 28.6
- Tatis 83.3
This is all hypothetical. He'll probably end up with the Dodgers.
Farmer1906 said:superaggie73 said:Farmer1906 said:Mr.Bond said:superaggie73 said:EastCoastAgNc said:"When you talk to general managers, they say the Padres are in big-time trouble. They're losing money."
— Foul Territory (@FoulTerritoryTV) November 11, 2025
Considering the amount of backloaded contracts the Padres have, could Fernando Tatis Jr. be on the move?@BNightengale won't rule it out in the future... pic.twitter.com/w0UMxPsiQM
Would you trade Cam, Walker, and Arrighetti for Tatis?
absolutely
THIS
He's entering his age-27 season. He's under contract for 9 more years at ~32 M per. For a team desperate for major talent after the loss of some big names and the aging out of others, he's perfect. He plays a high-level RF (better than Cam) and would look great leading off right in front of Yordan.
Is that enough to get Tatis? What if you had to throw in Yainer as well?
I'd say you are correct.
Here is how Baseball Trade Values eachTotal: 38.3
- Smith 22.5
- Arrighetti 12.4
- Walker -25.2
- Diaz 28.6
In actuality, there is no reason for the Padres to take Walker if the move is to shed money. If you take Walker out & add Yainer to the deal, it gets a lot closer to fair.
- Tatis 83.3
This is all hypothetical. He'll probably end up with the Dodgers.
I would assume any trade involving Walker is going to have to include us hanging on to a good part of his salary to make him anything besides an anchor weighing down the trade package value.
You would think so but if it's for someone on a bigger deal then it's still a cost saving move.
If Tatis is making 32 mil per and they ship him off for Walker who's making 20 mil that's still a cost cutting move.
If Tatis is making 32 mil per and they ship him off for Walker who's making 20 mil that's still a cost cutting move.
If they took Walker in return, they'd still shed quite a bit of committed salary. $292M vs $40M. However, they'll likely get offers that don't include a Walker-type salary in return.
Ag_07 said:
You would think so but if it's for someone on a bigger deal then it's still a cost saving move.
If Tatis is making 32 mil per and they ship him off for Walker who's making 20 mil that's still a cost cutting move.
Yeah, but Tatis is arguably playing well enough to justify 32M per year, while 2025 Walker was not worth 20M.
Moving Cam is risky, though. If he becomes the type of hitter some think he could be, that's cheap production, which is what we thrived on with guys like Springer, Correa, and Bregman, allowing money to be spent elsewhere.
A team bleeding money and blowing up it's roster going into costs saving mode DGAF about production vs salary.
But yes the kicker is I'd imagine they'd get better offers that don't include such a high salary and more prospect pieces for the future.
But yes the kicker is I'd imagine they'd get better offers that don't include such a high salary and more prospect pieces for the future.
Moving Cam or Paredes is borderline insanity to me. You specifically went after those guys by trading Tucker a year early and robbed the Cubs blind
CharleyKerfeld said:
Moving Cam or Paredes is borderline insanity to me. You specifically went after those guys by trading Tucker a year early and robbed the Cubs blind
Agreed, I don't understand the fascination with an immature steroid user on a bloated contract that Jim wouldn't give out to a free agent. This would be a losing trade for us.
I don't think his contract is bloated. It gets a little bloated toward the back end (36 mil per for the final 6 years) but it seems pretty reasonable for an MVP caliber player.
And yes the steroid use is a red flag but by all accounts he's matured a good bit and made some changes to become a more well rounded hitter.
Not sure I'd pull the trigger but I'd seriously consider making a deal for him.
And yes the steroid use is a red flag but by all accounts he's matured a good bit and made some changes to become a more well rounded hitter.
Not sure I'd pull the trigger but I'd seriously consider making a deal for him.
Ag_07 said:
I don't think his contract is bloated. It gets a little bloated toward the back end (36 mil per for the final 6 years) but it seems pretty reasonable for an MVP caliber player.
And yes the steroid use is a red flag but by all accounts he's matured a good bit and made some changes to become a more well rounded hitter.
Not sure I'd pull the trigger but I'd seriously consider making a deal for him.
He seems like the type that might pout after getting traded away from the west coast, another reason i don't want him. He's also had lots of injury issues as a younger player, and that's not going to get better with age.
EastCoastAgNc said:Ag_07 said:
I don't think his contract is bloated. It gets a little bloated toward the back end (36 mil per for the final 6 years) but it seems pretty reasonable for an MVP caliber player.
And yes the steroid use is a red flag but by all accounts he's matured a good bit and made some changes to become a more well rounded hitter.
Not sure I'd pull the trigger but I'd seriously consider making a deal for him.
He seems like the type that might pout after getting traded away from the west coast, another reason i don't want him. He's also had lots of injury issues as a younger player, and that's not going to get better with age.
We also have his former hitting coach now. Not sure if he'd view that as a plus or minus.
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