ColleyvilleAg06 Bubble Watch

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Updated Selection Sunday 2:00 PM

Locks

1 seeds
1. Duke (ACC) #1 overall seed
2. Michigan (Big 10)
3. Arizona (Big 12)
4. Florida

2 seeds
5. Houston
6. UConn
7. Iowa State
8. Purdue

3 seeds
9. Michigan State
10. Illinois
11. Gonzaga (West Coast)
12. Vanderbilt

4 seeds
13. Nebraska
14. Virginia
15. Alabama
16. Kansas

5 seeds
17. Arkansas (SEC)
18. St. John's (Big East)
19. Texas Tech
20. Wisconsin

6 seeds
21. Tennessee
22. Louisville
23. North Carolina
24. BYU

7 seeds

25. Kentucky
26. Miami
27. UCLA
28. St. Mary's


8 seeds

29. Clemson
30. Ohio State
31. Utah State (Mountain West)
32. Villanova


9 seeds

33. Georgia

----A&M ceiling-----

34. TCU 34.7 resume avg. 46.3 Quality. What will matter more to this committee in terms of seeding?

35. Iowa Resume Avg 43. Quality 27 . 2 quad 3 losses. Just 3-9 vs quad 1.

36. Texas A&M Subpar showing in the SECT but still solidly in with metrics across the board that suggest a 9 or 10 seed incoming. 42 resume avg (40 WAB), 37 quality avg.


10 seeds



37. Santa Clara Not much on the resume other than 2 wins over St. Mary's. 38.7 Resume Avg, 37.3 quality.

38. Saint Louis Lost to Dayton in a wild game in the semis. Should still be solidly in the tournament and they have a profile that is very close to A&M. Will the committee consider that result when they go back through to scrub and reseed? We will find out on Sunday…Also, how much does KPI weigh in the criteria this year? 27 vs. A&M's 53. A&M has a slight advantage in each of the other 5 metrics.

39. UCF Resume Avg 34, quality 56.3 Resume means they are solidly a lock but the quality likely keeps them as a 10 seed ceiling.

40. NC State - lost 7 of their final 9. WAB 43, Resume Avg 40.3, quality 36.3 (Waiting on Selection Sunday)



11 seeds

41. VCU (Atlantic 10) Won the auto bid to make the committee's job easy. They would have been in my field regardless but Dayton not getting this spot saves either SMU or Texas and keeps them in.

-------The Bubble. 4 at large spots left for 7 teams----------


LAST 4 in

42. Miami (OH) Well this exact scenario is why I was hesitant to make their lock status official. It is still really hard to imagine a team that went 31-0 in the regular season not getting in, especially with how bad the bubble is but losing to the #8 seed and outside the NET 200 UMass combined with predictive numbers now in the 90s at least warrants a conversation. Non conf SOS was #354. That said, even after that loss, the WAB is 38, resume avg 39.7. Quality avg is 91 yikes.

-----Floor for A&M ----reasonable minds could convince themselves this is where A&M currently sits based on the metrics----


43. Missouri - Their poor predictive metrics likely will hurt their seeding, but the resume numbers are solid enough that they should be in the field.

-------Sizable gap to the teams that are actually in danger---

44. Texas Lost 5 of their last 6 to wind up in dangerous territory sitting and watching the rest of the bubble. They do have 7 quad 1 wins (6-0 vs quad 1B). Outside of the quad1B its less than impressive including 1-9 vs quad 1A, 1-4 vs quad 2 and a quad 3 loss. What felt like a bubbly resume that was in danger of going to Dayton now feels like a Dayton as the best case scenario with the metrics slipping from the low 40s to mid 40s and right at the cut line. WAB is 45.

45. SMU Lost 4 in a row to end the regular season and an early exit in the ACC tournament, getting by Syracuse and losing to Louisville. Not a bad loss like some of their ACC counterparts but they fail on the chance to improve their standing and are now in the very precarious position of needing to avoid bid thieves. WAB of 48, just 9-13 against Q1 and Q2. As of now I feel confident they are in but that could change depending on other results the next 48 hours.

--------Bubble Bursts Here-------------------

Projected Auto Bids

46. South Florida (American) 3/14 (vs. Wichita State) Wichita State probably SHOULD be a 12, however given the time of the game and the laziness of the committee I am now projecting the winner of this game will be the 11 no matter what.

12 Seeds
47. McNeese State (Southland)
48. Akron (MAC)
49. Northern Iowa (Missouri Valley)
50. High Point (Big South)


13 Seeds
51. Hofstra (Coastal)
52. California Baptist (WAC)
53. Hawaii (Big West)
54. North Dakota St. (Summit)


14 Seeds
55. Troy (Sun Belt)
56. Wright State (Horizon)
57. Penn (Ivy)
58. Kennesaw State (Conference USA)

15 Seeds
59. UMBC (America East)
60. Idaho (Big Sky)
61. Tennessee State (Ohio Valley)
62. Furman (Southern)


16 Seeds
63. Long Island (Northeast)
64. Queens (Atlantic Sun)

Last 4 Auto bids in (Play in game)
65. Siena (Metro Atlantic)
66. Howard (Mid-Eastern)
67. Lehigh (Patriot)
68. Prairie View A&M (SWAC)



-----------First 3 Out-------------


69. Auburn No team has ever been selected as an at large with 16 losses. The bid stolen from the MAC may be what prevented that bit of history.

70. San Diego State The run through the MWC comes up just short. Almost certainly needed the auto bid. Going into the game the WAB had moved up to 45 but their profile is still pretty clearly behind SMU, Texas and Auburn.

71. Oklahoma Frantic end to the season to try to revive a mid 70s WAB and get in contention will fall just short. This would have been an interesting test case on how much if any the committee pays attention to conference tournaments but with the loss to Arkansas there just isn't enough here to put them in the field. On the plus side they have 5 quad 1 wins, 0 bad losses. Resume avg 52, Quality 40.7.



Locked this week:
Iowa (3/11)
UCF (3/11)
Saint Louis (3/13)
Santa Clara (3/14) With minimal bid stealers and others passing them, they are now safe
NC State (3/14) Lack of bid stealers move them to lock status

Eliminated this week:
Stanford (3/10) No metrics in the top 45, 4 bad losses, quality/predictive in the 60s, some bubble watches will keep them around, not here.
Cincinnati (3/11)
Cal (3/11)
Boise State (3/11)
Virginia Tech (3/12) With at least 1 bid stolen this week, they no longer have a viable path
New Mexico (3/14) Any at large required them to beat SDSU and they failed
South Florida (3/15) Metrics have not improved that would allow for any at large bid to be viable at all.
Indiana (3/15) No valid argument can be made for inclusion


What to watch


Sunday

2:15 ESPN AAC Wichita State vs. South Florida USF is an 11 if they win and 1st 8 out with a loss. WSU probably should be a 12 with a win but based on past committee behavior I am projecting the winner of this game will be an 11 seed regardless of who it is.

2:30 CBS Purdue vs. Michigan Michigan is a 1 seed and overall #2 regardless of win or loss. Purdue is a 2 regardless of the result.
AggieNattie
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This is amazing. Really hoping we don't get stuck going to Dayton if we do sneak in there somehow.
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I am sure I made a mistake somewhere and I'll do a few formatting tweaks to it tomorrow but this should be 99% accurate for an initial run. I will update it nightly at the conclusion of the relevant games.
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I do not care where we go - just get into the damn tournament!

BTHO UK!!

Thanks for doing this!
Fanatic15...Drs2B!
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Amazing work and much appreciated as it is every year!

BTHO Kentucky!!!
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About where I thought we are as well at this point. February was not great at all for us so hope some sort of switch turns on tomorrow for our shooting and offense. It seems very stagnant
OKC~Ag
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great, now beat UK and lsu so we can relax
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Well done, as always
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The gifts I open here on your Bubble Watch are better than on my birthday. Well done as always! Thank you!
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Detective Jake Peralta
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Been looking forward to this thread! Thanks so much for putting this together every year.
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Woohoo!!! March Baby. Lets go. Love this every year.
bobinator
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About damn time, I was partially blaming our recent run of play on you.
CDub06
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He's back!
bobinator
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Colleyville, want to see if you agree with this, one thing that's been fairly consistent in recent years is that these dudes are going to choose the laziest path when it comes to the who's in and out of the field so my theory is they're just going to go ahead and slot Miami of Ohio in as a non-play-in 11 seed whether they win the MAC or not because that game is late Saturday night.
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Well done as always! Our destiny is still in our hands.
bobinator
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I also think it's interesting how many first-year-coach teams are near the bubble. Auburn, us, Indiana, NC State, New Mexico, Texas, VCU, West Virginia. Nova, Iowa and Miami have also flirted with falling closer to the bubble.
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OP edited with formatting tweaks for readability. Will add some more intel throughout the day including each teams next game at the end of their blurb.
ColleyvilleAg06
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This is a completely fair criticism and when we beat UK tonight i fully expect to be given all the credit.
bobinator
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No that's not how it works. It just confirms that you were at fault for the losses.
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bobinator said:

Colleyville, want to see if you agree with this, one thing that's been fairly consistent in recent years is that these dudes are going to choose the laziest path when it comes to the who's in and out of the field so my theory is they're just going to go ahead and slot Miami of Ohio in as a non-play-in 11 seed whether they win the MAC or not because that game is late Saturday night.

This is a completely reasonable take that they will be fully done with selection and seeding by the time they play. The only hope i have that "every game counts" is that if they lose the MAC becomes (i would think) a 2 bid league which is going to mess with their bracket anyways so they may have a if Miami wins bracket and if they lose bracket they build. In recent years however you would see the CUSA team for example win, and by the numbers should be a 14 seed, but be given the 12 seed because that's what they had Memphis in as and it was easier to just sub in UAB than redo everything. So...given that history ya...laziest approach possible is the most likely scenario.
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bobinator said:

No that's not how it works. It just confirms that you were at fault for the losses.

True. Ok i admit it, it actually was my fault, but in fairness i get more clicks when A&M is near the bubble so was secretly hoping we would make it interesting.
bobinator
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Yeah the process is much simpler if you go into that game just assuming that no matter what happens you're not putting Miami of Ohio in the First Four.
bobinator
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I salute the effort to include so many teams under the line. I think everyone past SDSU is toast unless some just really wild stuff happens.
LouisvilleAg
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NOW, we can say we are approaching the best weekend in sports!
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bobinator said:

I salute the effort to include so many teams under the line. I think everyone past SDSU is toast unless some just really wild stuff happens.

Likely yes, partially because they have shown no ability to win a bunch of games in a row and beat good teams. Baylor is an interesting case of a team everyone assumes is done. But what if they win at Houston tomorrow? Their predictives are already in the 40s and suddenly jump into the 30s with obviously a huge boost to the resume indexes. For anyone below the line i assume if they win out will they at least be in the conversation. Oklahoma is in a similar spot. No bad losses, what happens if they beat Missouri and then have a statement win at Texas. All of a sudden all their numbers look alot better.
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Maybe I'm just too focused on the WAB because I think those teams just have way too much ground to make up. I don't think beating Missouri and Texas is going to do enough for Oklahoma to even really get them close.
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bobinator said:

Maybe I'm just too focused on the WAB because I think those teams just have way too much ground to make up. I don't think beating Missouri and Texas is going to do enough for Oklahoma to even really get them close.


Baylor would go from 65 in Wab to about 54 with a win tonight. Oklahoma you are correct has no real shot of getting near 45. But both teams also have really good predictive numbers that will be hard to ignore even if WAB is lagging.

I do think WAB is probably the most important metric, but I just don't think it outweighs everything.
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They'd make a big jump but their last game against Utah will be worth practically nothing in the WAB.

I guess there's enough high end teams in the Big 12 that there's a potential combination of tournament wins that could get them close if everyone else just loses immediately, but it seems exceedingly unlikely. Though I guess if you can win at Houston anything is possible.

But again that's why I salute your efforts. When I was looking at some of these teams for the games that matter thread I had the reaction of "I guess theoretically possible but extremely unlikely so not gonna worry about it yet..." for a lot of these teams.
brunsie
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Wow! Our margin of error is razor thin!

BTHO uk!!!
Faustus
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bobinator said:

They'd make a big jump but their last game against Utah will be worth practically nothing in the WAB.

I guess there's enough high end teams in the Big 12 that there's a potential combination of tournament wins that could get them close if everyone else just loses immediately, but it seems exceedingly unlikely. Though I guess if you can win at Houston anything is possible.

But again that's why I salute your efforts. When I was looking at some of these teams for the games that matter thread I had the reaction of "I guess theoretically possible but extremely unlikely so not gonna worry about it yet..." for a lot of these teams.


Yeah it's nice to have someone take a less lazy approach to the whole affair.
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If Cincinnati makes it I'll have to rethink my whole approach next year. I think they're the poster child this year of the "surely not…. but maybe?" teams.
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Thanks for doing this. Look forward to this every year.
Lukeno
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This is fantastic. Thank you sir
LouisvilleAg
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Sorry ColleyvilleAg06, guess you were the reason for the losses.
PJYoung
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Massive win for TCU tonight in Lubbock
 
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