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If Dr. Beatriz Villarroel's (@DrBeaVillarroel) research holds - and statistically, it appears to - then we may be standing on the edge of a potentially jaw-dropping astronomical revelation. Her work with the VASCO project (Vanishing & Appearing Sources during a Century of Observations) suggests the presence of a structured grid of unidentified objects in near-Earth orbit, dating back to the late 1940s and 1950s. These were recorded at a time when no nation on Earth had the technological capacity to place satellites in orbit.

Think about that. Holy. *****

The implications are hard to put into words, really. If orbiting artificial objects were present decades before the launch of Sputnik in 1957, then it is not just possible but highly probable that these anomalies were detected by terrestrial observatories. Government agencies - especially in the U.S. - were actively monitoring the skies during the early Cold War period using powerful ground-based telescopes and radar systems. It is likely they knew.

And yet, where are the records?

Consider the strange actions of Dr. Donald Menzel, a prominent Harvard astronomer and staunch UFO skeptic, who reportedly destroyed or restricted access to numerous astronomical plates in the 1950s. These plates may have contained the very photographic evidence that corroborates Villarroel's findings. It is difficult not to see this as a form of preemptive suppression - suggesting that sensitive data from the mid-1940s onward was quietly removed from public view because it revealed too much.

If this orbital grid persisted into the satellite era, as many suspect, then it is virtually certain that it would have been rediscovered by later generations of space-faring technology - whether by the International Space Station, NORAD, NASA, or any number of sophisticated imaging and tracking systems. But post-1960s, the landscape changed: with thousands of human-made satellites circling Earth, distinguishing an anomalous object from a conventional one became exponentially more difficult. This is precisely why Villarroel's focus on the pre-space age period is so vital. It offers a glimpse into the sky before the noise of our own machines drowned out the silence.

So what are we looking at? And whose technology is it?

Are we observing the remnants of a vast surveillance or infrastructure network maintained by a non-human intelligence operating in secrecy for generations - perhaps millennia? A quiet observer species that has built a persistent orbital presence, undetected until now?

We are left with questions that demand answers.

These results require formal investigation, not dismissal. They demand a reassessment of what we think we know about our skies - and who has been sharing them with us.

It will be fascinating to see how mainstream astronomy responds. Will they meet this with open inquiry? Or will they retreat behind well-worn doctrines, unwilling to disturb the myth of cosmic solitude?

Because if Villarroel is right, then solitude was never ours to begin with. #UFOX #UFOTwitter

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Harvard, you say?

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This guy says it's definitely a comet.

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If I remember correctly omuamua made some crazy turns that couldn't be explained. There was other stuff that was wonky with it too. Will be interesting to see what path this object makes and see if there are speed changes etc. Wonder how many interstellar objects we've missed in previous years just because we couldn't see them
God loves you so much He'll meet you where you are. He also loves you too much to allow to stay where you are.

We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
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Douthat getting details from Senate staffers. I'd watch his column in the NYT, and also have heard that Ralph Blumenthal's successors in the paper are getting prepped by committee staffs.

Will be curious if there is a tie-in to Spielberg's Disclosure. Meaning, we are watching disclosure happen right now.

IMO it's well established grave evil has been done by our wholly unaccountable permanent bureaucracy, in a variety of ways and times …. And the smarter, more skeptical yet also honest commentators / researchers in this space, such as The Why Files, do admit that the Eisenhower dentist story doesn't add up…..

Therefore, I believe, this rolling disclosure instead of "catastrophic disclosure."
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14951779/NASA-engineer-trillion-devices-hidden-Earth.html
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A former NASA engineer has made sensational claims that humans are not only reverse-engineering alien technology, but that trillions of invisible extraterrestrial devices may already be hidden across the planet.
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I know Malone is controversial, but he's also accomplished and does have Congressional friends.

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Trillions!
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redline248 said:

Trillions!
I'd buy one for a dollar. Let's erase the deficit!
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I thought I would share a story from my Uncle who worked for one of the three letter govt organizations. Quick background on him for understanding. He graduated with his 4 year teaching degree in 2 years from Texas Teachers College back in the day. Then on to Austin for his Masters and then U of Michigan for his doctorate in "Math". Michigan was were he was recruited by the RAND Corporation and ultimately the govt. He moved to Santa Monica to begin his work and was on some pretty important teams that developed some incredible things for the govt/military. He and his team were important in some very specific aspects of the U-2, Cobra Dane, missile defense, Cold War code breaking, early GPS, etc. Needless to say he had some very cool stories, but couldn't share everything.

He was my favorite Uncle and I loved talking to him about his travels. He traveled all over the world for work and we didn't always know where he was. He was fluent in Russian, Spanish, and could get around in French and some others. He wasn't a normal guy, he was gifted. I would talk to him about work and he would give me the basic stuff, but never anything too juicy. Fast forward to his retirement years and the untimely death of his sister, my mother. It hit him hard and he hit the bottle even harder. In all of his travels and all of his work for the govt he and most of his team developed drinking problems. Long deployments for work in foreign countries, bases, etc. led to alcohol abuse and the death of my mom brought it out again.

During a drunken call from Santa Monica one night we started talking about UFO's, aliens, etc. and I flat out asked him if UFOs and aliens were real. He just kind of laughed it off and never said yes or no. We talked about some other things, but I went back to UFOs. He gave in a little and told me he never flat out saw an alien, but got a call one night when he was on assignment out of the country (wouldn't say where) and he was told to get on a helicopter and fly out for something. He did tell me it was mountainous terrain and snowy. He landed and was taken to an area and was asked by a higher up who was on site to answer one question and one question only. I remember the question very well because I have not heard the language before until much much later. The question was " Can you verify that the wreckage you see here is of unknown origin?". After walking around the wreckage for a bit, he told the higher up that "Yes, I can verify that this is a wreck of unknown origin." My uncle was thanked for his time and quickly sent back to the helicopter. He said no one ever said another word to him about it and he never asked. It wasn't until decades later that I heard that term "unknown origin" on one of the UFO shows. I immediately remembered that story.

Over the years, before he died, I would ask again and he never talked about UFO's again. My aunt told me after his death that he should not have even told me the little that he did. I am convinced my uncle knew about way more than he could ever tell me. If you ever asked him what he did for a living, he would tell you he was a "Math Teacher" After his death I found several books, or stories that he wrote about a "fictional" Navy Intelligence Officer that had some pretty similar adventurers to some of the stuff he told me about. I miss that guy. Sorry for the long post!
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JohnnyShotgun said:

I thought I would share a story from my Uncle who worked for one of the three letter govt organizations. Quick background on him for understanding. He graduated with his 4 year teaching degree in 2 years from Texas Teachers College back in the day. Then on to Austin for his Masters and then U of Michigan for his doctorate in "Math". Michigan was were he was recruited by the RAND Corporation and ultimately the govt. He moved to Santa Monica to begin his work and was on some pretty important teams that developed some incredible things for the govt/military. He and his team were important in some very specific aspects of the U-2, Cobra Dane, missile defense, Cold War code breaking, early GPS, etc. Needless to say he had some very cool stories, but couldn't share everything.

He was my favorite Uncle and I loved talking to him about his travels. He traveled all over the world for work and we didn't always know where he was. He was fluent in Russian, Spanish, and could get around in French and some others. He wasn't a normal guy, he was gifted. I would talk to him about work and he would give me the basic stuff, but never anything too juicy. Fast forward to his retirement years and the untimely death of his sister, my mother. It hit him hard and he hit the bottle even harder. In all of his travels and all of his work for the govt he and most of his team developed drinking problems. Long deployments for work in foreign countries, bases, etc. led to alcohol abuse and the death of my mom brought it out again.

During a drunken call from Santa Monica one night we started talking about UFO's, aliens, etc. and I flat out asked him if UFOs and aliens were real. He just kind of laughed it off and never said yes or no. We talked about some other things, but I went back to UFOs. He gave in a little and told me he never flat out saw an alien, but got a call one night when he was on assignment out of the country (wouldn't say where) and he was told to get on a helicopter and fly out for something. He did tell me it was mountainous terrain and snowy. He landed and was taken to an area and was asked by a higher up who was on site to answer one question and one question only. I remember the question very well because I have not heard the language before until much much later. The question was " Can you verify that the wreckage you see here is of unknown origin?". After walking around the wreckage for a bit, he told the higher up that "Yes, I can verify that this is a wreck of unknown origin." My uncle was thanked for his time and quickly sent back to the helicopter. He said no one ever said another word to him about it and he never asked. It wasn't until decades later that I heard that term "unknown origin" on one of the UFO shows. I immediately remembered that story.

Over the years, before he died, I would ask again and he never talked about UFO's again. My aunt told me after his death that he should not have even told me the little that he did. I am convinced my uncle knew about way more than he could ever tell me. If you ever asked him what he did for a living, he would tell you he was a "Math Teacher" After his death I found several books, or stories that he wrote about a "fictional" Navy Intelligence Officer that had some pretty similar adventurers to some of the stuff he told me about. I miss that guy. Sorry for the long post!


Good read! I enjoyed it.
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Once again, I'll believe it when I see it, but this is at least encouraging to hear…

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I love hearing stories like this. Thanks for sharing.
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