I'm skeptical, given that it's the Duffners.

While they're certainly drawing from MK Ultra - Mockingbird military industrial complex lore, full of very real and often tragic recent history, the best entertainment / military intel nexus Disclosure figure is by far Spielberg, very well detailed by Psyop Cinema.

well part 2 took quite the nosedive. Holly and Max were the stars of the last few episodes. The folks that mentioned the sunk time in this series are 100% correct. LOTS of viewers would tune this crap out if this was early on in the show.

- Temu Uma Thurman won't shut up
- Show is trying way too hard to incorporate every single nostalgic dramatic scene from other films/shows over the last 40 years for 80s kids (Nancy with the exact Rambo III look, Demodogs copying Jurassic Park kitchen scene)
- Will LGBTQLMNOP mafia come out against this show for stereotyping negative, abusive relationships between Vecna/Will and Robin/Candy-striper?
- Sister of Lucas is surprisingly not the worst member of the cast this season
- So much brooding
- Stealing morphine and having a kid bake it into a pie to sedate an entire family is mega-horrorshow stuff, just completely dark
- Them Eggos been giving Elle a fat ass... A moment on the lips, a lifetime on the hips
- Lt. Akers could definitely be a rage virus zombie in 28 Days Later, superb makeup job... Makeup Emmy, give it to them
- Fat shaming/body acceptance faux pas with the Turnbow kid - in an effort to be completely and overly 80s, Stranger Things has gone with the token fatty trope
- Having an Indian named Kali is too just obvious that she's gonna do something bad

Now for the good. I'm liking the way that physics and wormhole play into this. At the end of Season 4 it was clear the Elle sent One packing to another dimension. Elle's mistake when she was remote viewing in Season 1 that opened the connection to Dimension X (The Abyss is D&D cringe nonsense) makes more sense now. I guess One knew or hoped Papa would attempt to find him and laid out the Demogorgon bait for Elle to find so a door via the Upside Down made it possible to get back into this world. But it looks like there is more to the story coming.

TLDR; The scifi aspects of this show are more interesting than the unnecessary social aspects literally no one asked for.

All of the 80s pop culture references just add to the theory that this is an imaginary D&D game they're making up in the basement.

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I bet they filmed the finale when they were still kids and the end will be them sitting around the table in Mike's basement finishing the D&D campaign.

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That'd be somewhat cool, but you're giving the Duffer Brothers waaay too much credit for foresight and planning, which the show itself has clearly shown has been lacking.

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I know.

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I bet they filmed the finale when they were still kids and the end will be them sitting around the table in Mike's basement finishing the D&D campaign.

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I predicted this long ago. Before even Redstone.

They probably have enough unused footage to just show them playing at the end with a little voice over. I also think they could accomplish something similar by just sending them back in time after defeating Henry and closing the portal.

I am really excited for the Pitch Meeting for season 5.

Why wouldn't they just use Ocho to create a distraction instead of shooting up the army base?

Unclear.

Getting a BMW with some radio locator in it into the upside down sounds difficult and really dangerous.

Actually it will be super easy. Barely an inconvenience.

Such a shame. I will not be watching the 2 episodes that dropped Christmas, or finishing the series.We knew, we knew he didn't like girls. There was no need to ruin the show with the LGBTQ+# agenda etc.

Plot twist: The Abyss isn't connected through the upside down to Hawkins. Vecna, the entire alternate universe, and bridge are all located inside Mikes giant nose.