Btron said:
aTmAg said:chico said:aTmAg said:boy09 said:aTmAg said:
I see people on twitter and whatnot complaining that AI songs and other media doesn't have "soul". I think that is a cope.
It seems that 99% of pop music nowadays revolves around the person, not the music. That if musicians like Brittany Spears were ugly, then nobody would know their name. Their music isn't good enough to justify it's popularity on it's own. And it's not just appearance, it's something appealing about the musician. That Taylor Swift didn't have a great marketing team, then nobody would know of her either. Now, Taylor Swift could record the sound of her taking a dump, and millions would still buy it (as apparently evident by her last album).
But AI music can be judged based on the quality of the music alone. That if an AI song ever makes top 40, then it will have to be because the song is actually really good. Not because of superficial BS.
It is soulless though. I don't want to listed to precisely engineered corporate pop either.
If this thread was created 10 years ago, and wasn't about AI, then nobody here would be able to tell that they were computer generated. We would just think they are really good covers of beloved songs. This notion of "soulless" is completely bogus.
Michael Bolton was soulless and he wasn't AI. Good music is authentic, creative, passionate. AI will have a harder time with those aspects. Not impossible, but harder.
I'm sure we could find a gazillion people who think Michael Bolton's music was full of "soul". You just don't like it.
I bet that if there was a challenge for your favorite ("soulful") group to keep their next album secret, and for somebody to use AI to generate a companion album, that you you wouldn't be able to reliably identify which songs were real and which were AI.
PatAg said:
you need god
tk for tu juan said:
CharleyKerfeld said:tk for tu juan said:
Thought this was Homelander first time I saw it.
swimmerbabe11 said:aTmAg said:chico said:aTmAg said:boy09 said:aTmAg said:
I see people on twitter and whatnot complaining that AI songs and other media doesn't have "soul". I think that is a cope.
It seems that 99% of pop music nowadays revolves around the person, not the music. That if musicians like Brittany Spears were ugly, then nobody would know their name. Their music isn't good enough to justify it's popularity on it's own. And it's not just appearance, it's something appealing about the musician. That Taylor Swift didn't have a great marketing team, then nobody would know of her either. Now, Taylor Swift could record the sound of her taking a dump, and millions would still buy it (as apparently evident by her last album).
But AI music can be judged based on the quality of the music alone. That if an AI song ever makes top 40, then it will have to be because the song is actually really good. Not because of superficial BS.
It is soulless though. I don't want to listed to precisely engineered corporate pop either.
If this thread was created 10 years ago, and wasn't about AI, then nobody here would be able to tell that they were computer generated. We would just think they are really good covers of beloved songs. This notion of "soulless" is completely bogus.
Michael Bolton was soulless and he wasn't AI. Good music is authentic, creative, passionate. AI will have a harder time with those aspects. Not impossible, but harder.
I'm sure we could find a gazillion people who think Michael Bolton's music was full of "soul". You just don't like it.
I bet that if there was a challenge for your favorite ("soulful") group to keep their next album secret, and for somebody to use AI to generate a companion album, that you you wouldn't be able to reliably identify which songs were real and which were AI.
"soulless" "has soul" isnt an arbitrary value of good or bad.
Its a reflection of the intent behind the person creating that art.
by definition, AI "art" can only try to replicate the intent and thats why so much of it falls into an uncanny valley sort of feeling.
Brian Earl Spilner said:
Ok this is banger...
Zombie Jon Snow said:
Can we make these yet? Or is this some paid service and semi professional?
Cuz I have some stuff I'd like to really create like artists doing a version of a song.
Macarthur said:
Okay, I feel like a just stepped into bizzaro world. Why in the world would you want to listen to 'music' created by a computer?
Macarthur said:
Okay, I feel like a just stepped into bizzaro world. Why in the world would you want to listen to 'music' created by a computer?
Macarthur said:
Okay, I feel like a just stepped into bizzaro world. Why in the world would you want to listen to 'music' created by a computer?
Brian Earl Spilner said:
Ok this is banger...
FDXAg said:
Man this one is unbelievable! This always was an amazing song but this takes it to a whole different level.
Jugstore Cowboy said:Btron said:
Solid gold.
RikkiTikkaTagem said:
I don't really view this as "AI created". It's just AI enhanced. Nothing we've listened to on these three pages could only have been made by AI.
This is still human created content (the base song lyrics, melody) using other human created content (genres of music) with another human just acting as a producer, who just uses AI to get the sound he wants. It's like being a producer who has access to infinite musicians and infinite vocalists and infinite recording studio time that can be done for a fraction of the time and cost.
Another point. Great songs transcend genres. That's what makes them popular. Most of these super popular songs we loved listening to growing on my sound like a specific genre for one of two reasons.
1. That was the bands "sound"
2. Some producer made it sound a certain way for mass consumption and max profitability that in line with what was popular at the time.
Rarely are these songs written in what I would call their best form. Rarely do the person writing the song, the person arranging the music to the song, the person mixing the song, the musicians actually playing and singing the song, are all the people who make that song sound the best it possibly can. That's why we sometimes love the cover better than the original like Hurt by Johnny Cash or I will always love you by Whitney Houston (they're just examples not trying to start an argument). All of the previous things I mention line up to make a better version of the song. I would say all AI is doing for these songs listed so far is just testing out different variations. Now, literally anybody can do it, so you're doing to see a ton of stuff out there.