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Martin Q. Blank
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At the end, everyone rides the kick and wakes up from the dream except Cobb and Saito. They're both stuck in limbo. Cobb finds Saito in limbo and they both remember to come back.

How were they still connected? To even communicate with each other in limbo. They wake up together on the plane and the machine is gone.
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More than 15 years after release and two days before Christmas…yet, the need to fire off this question about plot logistics, and you know what? I respect it.
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Been 2+ years since I've had my latest rewatch - if I remember right, Cobb washes up on his shore in the beginning of the movie and Saito is an old man. I think they tie it in that way. Can you imagine 'living' to be 100+ years old just to wake up on an airplane you vaguely recall boarding in your 40s?

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toucan82
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It's all a dream
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Martin Q. Blank said:

At the end, everyone rides the kick and wakes up from the dream except Cobb and Saito. They're both stuck in limbo. Cobb finds Saito in limbo and they both remember to come back.

How were they still connected? To even communicate with each other in limbo. They wake up together on the plane and the machine is gone.


I've thought way to much about this movie over the last decade and a half.

(1) The machine is what creates the shared dream. The mechanics of how the machine works aren't explained, other than that it requires sedation.

(2) They have enough sedation for the entire flight.

(3) If under while the machine is going on, a sensory kick can wake you up into the level above it. They have scheduled the kicks to wake them all up one level after another to bring them all the way back to reality, but also to maximize the time they have on the plane and in each level to accomplish everything they have to do.

(4) If you "die" in a dream while under heavy sedation, your brain takes you to your subconscious. But because you're on the machine, the subconscious level is shared. Ergo, Saito and Cobb are together there. You can't be woken up by a kick in this space because it is the subconscious. You just have to wait it out until either (a) you die, or (b) the sedation wears off.

(5) It's not specifically addressed, but if you don't do that and just live out the entire time in your subconscious without trying to get back to reality, it scrambles your brain when you do wake up. Like Saito would have woken up in the plane even if he didn't believe Cobb, but it's almost like he would have woken up as the old man he had just lived 200 years as.

So, Cobb, using Saito's phrase, convinces Saito to accept death to return to reality, so when he wakes up after the sedation wears off, he'll remember the deal.
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This is all correct, from my understanding of Inception.

As for whether he was dreaming or not, i have heard theories about that regarding Cobb's wedding ring being his totem and that he only wears it when he's dreaming. In the final scene, he is not wearing it.

However, one could just turn this logic around and state that Cobb simply accepted this life as his reality. So he would have taken his ring off, anyway. I still like the idea of his ring being his totem and that he is not dreaming, at the end.
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Remains the most mentally taxing yet great cinematic experiences I've had since 2001 Space Odyssey.
Class of '91 (MEEN)
kyledr04
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Tenet is similarly complicated. Now I need to watch Inception again, it's been a while.
Kaiser von Wilhelm
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kyledr04 said:

Tenet is similarly complicated. Now I need to watch Inception again, it's been a while.


Tenet actually hurt my head. They made it too complicated, and I left the theater very frustrated and almost exhausted. Inception was a kids game by comparison, as complicated as it truly is. But it was the right balance of complicated and entertaining, and I love it for that. Tenet, not so much.
DannyDuberstein
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Tenet compounded its problems with horrific audio on dialogue. Let's take an already incredibly confusing plot to follow and compound it with a mumbly, poor sounding lead character
kyledr04
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My 10 year old watched the last 30 minutes with me after I paused to butcher an explanation up to that point. He's sharp. When Cobb gets home, my son says "He needs to spin the top." So he was getting it. Then couldn't stand that it ended like it did. We need to watch it again now.
kyledr04
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Tenet gets better after a few times. I watched it twice over the last few months while it was back on Netflix. Inception is still better but I like the concept of Tenet. The idea that the woman was already jumping off boat at the beginning of the movie like it already happened blows my mind. And just moving backwards through time instead of typical time travel is fascinating.

But it suffers from the problems most time travel movies do. Like they said in Endgame, Back to the Future is a bunch of BS. Love all those movies though.
Proposition Joe
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I need to give Tenet another watch.

The Prestige is still his best film though.
Captain Winky
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The Prestige is in my top 3.
Lathspell
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Wrong! The correct answer is Interstellar!
Martin Q. Blank
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(1) The machine is what creates the shared dream. The mechanics of how the machine works aren't explained, other than that it requires sedation.

(2) They have enough sedation for the entire flight.

(3) If under while the machine is going on, a sensory kick can wake you up into the level above it. They have scheduled the kicks to wake them all up one level after another to bring them all the way back to reality, but also to maximize the time they have on the plane and in each level to accomplish everything they have to do.

(4) If you "die" in a dream while under heavy sedation, your brain takes you to your subconscious. But because you're on the machine, the subconscious level is shared. Ergo, Saito and Cobb are together there. You can't be woken up by a kick in this space because it is the subconscious. You just have to wait it out until either (a) you die, or (b) the sedation wears off.

(5) It's not specifically addressed, but if you don't do that and just live out the entire time in your subconscious without trying to get back to reality, it scrambles your brain when you do wake up. Like Saito would have woken up in the plane even if he didn't believe Cobb, but it's almost like he would have woken up as the old man he had just lived 200 years as.

So, Cobb, using Saito's phrase, convinces Saito to accept death to return to reality, so when he wakes up after the sedation wears off, he'll remember the deal.

#4 is what confuses me. What machine did Saito and Cobb share? The original one on the plane? After killing themselves, they wake up separately from the others and the machine is gone.
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Lathspell said:

Wrong! The correct answer is Interstellar!

I consider it to be the GOAT in the SciFi gene. Masterful.
Class of '91 (MEEN)
dvldog
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Proposition Joe said:

I need to give Tenet another watch.

The Prestige is still his best film though.

FYI - Tenet is on Netflix until the end of the month.
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