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With regard to asylum, there are a dozen other countries that are in North/South/Central America to which I would direct asylum seekers.

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Because they shouldn't be allowed to claim asylum in the United States? Why?

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Where does this right come from? The right to go somewhere and obligate others?

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Emma Lazarus poem incoming

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It's a fantastic poem. Why does it upset you so much?

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I don't like it, and it's used as if it came down from Mount Sinai rather than by some Zionist quasi socialist broad.

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Ignore the troll. We still don't know where this right to asylum comes from.

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With regard to asylum, there are a dozen other countries that are in North/South/Central America to which I would direct asylum seekers.

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Because they shouldn't be allowed to claim asylum in the United States? Why?

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Where does this right come from? The right to go somewhere and obligate others?

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Emma Lazarus poem incoming

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It's a fantastic poem. Why does it upset you so much?

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I don't like it, and it's used as if it came down from Mount Sinai rather than by some Zionist quasi socialist broad.

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Ignore the troll. We still don't know where this right to asylum comes from.

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It's always interesting to see right wing Catholics downplay human dignity and human rights in obsessively secular legal arguments that rarely rise above the level of, "these immigrants are probably dumb and come from countries that aren't Europe."

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With regard to asylum, there are a dozen other countries that are in North/South/Central America to which I would direct asylum seekers.

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Because they shouldn't be allowed to claim asylum in the United States? Why?

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Where does this right come from? The right to go somewhere and obligate others?

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Emma Lazarus poem incoming

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It's a fantastic poem. Why does it upset you so much?

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I don't like it, and it's used as if it came down from Mount Sinai rather than by some Zionist quasi socialist broad.

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Ignore the troll. We still don't know where this right to asylum comes from.

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It's always interesting to see right wing Catholics downplay human dignity and human rights in obsessively secular legal arguments that rarely rise above the level of, "these immigrants are probably dumb and come from countries that aren't Europe."

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That's interesting, where did the immigrants in the Lazarus era come from?

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With regard to asylum, there are a dozen other countries that are in North/South/Central America to which I would direct asylum seekers.

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Because they shouldn't be allowed to claim asylum in the United States? Why?

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Where does this right come from? The right to go somewhere and obligate others?

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Emma Lazarus poem incoming

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It's a fantastic poem. Why does it upset you so much?

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I don't like it, and it's used as if it came down from Mount Sinai rather than by some Zionist quasi socialist broad.

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Ignore the troll. We still don't know where this right to asylum comes from.

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It's always interesting to see right wing Catholics downplay human dignity and human rights in obsessively secular legal arguments that rarely rise above the level of, "these immigrants are probably dumb and come from countries that aren't Europe."

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That's interesting, where did the immigrants in the Lazarus era come from?

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Southern Italy, Eastern Europe, Russia, Arab world. Included a large number of Catholic and Orthodox Christians, Muslims, and Jews. Stopped after 1924 at the height of nativism and the second Klan. That act harmed the U.S. economy but was praised by Adolf Hitler, so mixed bag, am I right?

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With regard to asylum, there are a dozen other countries that are in North/South/Central America to which I would direct asylum seekers.

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Because they shouldn't be allowed to claim asylum in the United States? Why?

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Where does this right come from? The right to go somewhere and obligate others?

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Emma Lazarus poem incoming

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It's a fantastic poem. Why does it upset you so much?

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I don't like it, and it's used as if it came down from Mount Sinai rather than by some Zionist quasi socialist broad.

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Ignore the troll. We still don't know where this right to asylum comes from.

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It's always interesting to see right wing Catholics downplay human dignity and human rights in obsessively secular legal arguments that rarely rise above the level of, "these immigrants are probably dumb and come from countries that aren't Europe."

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That's interesting, where did the immigrants in the Lazarus era come from?

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Southern Italy, Eastern Europe, Russia, Arab world. Included a large number of Catholic and Orthodox Christians, Muslims, and Jews. Stopped after 1924 at the height of nativism and the second Klan. That act harmed the U.S. economy but was praised by Adolf Hitler, so mixed bag, am I right?

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Staff, please ban Sapper for flagrant antisemitism

Why did you focus on Lazarus's Judaism?

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Why did you focus on Lazarus's Judaism?

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I said nothing about her being Jewish

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Why did you focus on Lazarus's Judaism?

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I said nothing about her being Jewish

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You called her a "Zionist." Zionism wasn't a coherent ideology or even formalized as such when she lived. She encouraged Jewish immigration to the United States. So why did you so prominently emphasize "Zionism"?

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Why did you focus on Lazarus's Judaism?

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You called her a "Zionist." Zionism wasn't a coherent ideology or even formalized as such when she lived. She encouraged Jewish immigration to the United States. So why did you so prominently emphasize "Zionism"?

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Because she was a Zionist. Zionism isn't exclusive to Jews. There is a huge movement among Protestants as well. Hegseth himself is a Zionist.

Here's the National women's hall of fame calling her the forerunner of Zionism. Does that count?

The vast majorities of her writings encouraged Jews to come to America. And modern Christian Zionism is quite far apart from the debates about Zionism in the late 19th century. So why did you begin your attacks on her by calling her a Zionist? What was the point of that?

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The vast majorities of her writings encouraged Jews to come to America. And modern Christian Zionism is quite far apart from the debates about Zionism in the late 19th century. So why did you begin your attacks on her by calling her a Zionist? What was the point of that?

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You don't see an issue with allegiances for a person that is demanding a homeland for Jews, but encouraging immigrants from all over the place to come to the USA?

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The vast majorities of her writings encouraged Jews to come to America. And modern Christian Zionism is quite far apart from the debates about Zionism in the late 19th century. So why did you begin your attacks on her by calling her a Zionist? What was the point of that?

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You don't see an issue with allegiances for a person that is demanding a homeland for Jews, but encouraging immigrants from all over the place to come to the USA?

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Demanding? She wanted a homeland for Jews, who were undergoing vicious pogroms, but was far more invested in encouraging Jewish immigration to the United States and viewed the country as a refuge for the oppressed where they could thrive. Why do you bring up "allegiances"? What are you insinuating?

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The vast majorities of her writings encouraged Jews to come to America. And modern Christian Zionism is quite far apart from the debates about Zionism in the late 19th century. So why did you begin your attacks on her by calling her a Zionist? What was the point of that?

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You don't see an issue with allegiances for a person that is demanding a homeland for Jews, but encouraging immigrants from all over the place to come to the USA?

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Demanding? She wanted a homeland for Jews, who were undergoing vicious pogroms, but was far more invested in encouraging Jewish immigration to the United States and viewed the country as a refuge for the oppressed where they could thrive. Why do you bring up "allegiances"? What are you insinuating?

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Do poor huddled masses, or wretched refuse sound like a boon to the country that takes them or the poor huddled masses themselves?

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The vast majorities of her writings encouraged Jews to come to America. And modern Christian Zionism is quite far apart from the debates about Zionism in the late 19th century. So why did you begin your attacks on her by calling her a Zionist? What was the point of that?

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You don't see an issue with allegiances for a person that is demanding a homeland for Jews, but encouraging immigrants from all over the place to come to the USA?

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Demanding? She wanted a homeland for Jews, who were undergoing vicious pogroms, but was far more invested in encouraging Jewish immigration to the United States and viewed the country as a refuge for the oppressed where they could thrive. Why do you bring up "allegiances"? What are you insinuating?

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Do poor huddled masses, or wretched refuse sound like a boon to the country that takes them or the poor huddled masses themselves?

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Both. What are you insinuating with "allegiances"?

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The vast majorities of her writings encouraged Jews to come to America. And modern Christian Zionism is quite far apart from the debates about Zionism in the late 19th century. So why did you begin your attacks on her by calling her a Zionist? What was the point of that?

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You don't see an issue with allegiances for a person that is demanding a homeland for Jews, but encouraging immigrants from all over the place to come to the USA?

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Demanding? She wanted a homeland for Jews, who were undergoing vicious pogroms, but was far more invested in encouraging Jewish immigration to the United States and viewed the country as a refuge for the oppressed where they could thrive. Why do you bring up "allegiances"? What are you insinuating?

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Do poor huddled masses, or wretched refuse sound like a boon to the country that takes them or the poor huddled masses themselves?

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Both. What are you insinuating with "allegiances"?

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I'm not insinuating anything I'm saying she cares more about the benefit of the migrants than she does the United States.

I get it. I care more about the Catholic Church than I do America, however my allegiance to the Catholic Church does not put me into the position where I'm having to argue about importing a few hundred thousand impoverished migrants from the Vatican.

Edit to add; if you think "poor huddled masses and wretched refuse" are pitched as a boon to the country that accepts them it explains why you went into education and not advertising.

The poem spoke to the people of the United States. It was one poem amongst a book intended to raise money for the pedestal to the Statue of Liberty. That particular poem drove home the power and promise of the statue. But an elitist such as yourself wouldn't get that.

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The poem spoke to the people of the United States. It was one poem amongst a book intended to raise money for the pedestal to the Statue of Liberty. That particular poem drove home the power and promise of the statue. But an elitist such as yourself wouldn't get that.

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🔴 Catholic Charities of Central Texas today announced that due to lack of federal funding the organization is suspending its Refugee Resettlement program and eliminating 30 staff positions that work throughout 25 Texas counties.

Below is a copy of the organization’s formal… pic.twitter.com/BTXIQYfv2X

— 🚨 Rusty Surette (@KBTXRusty) March 10, 2025

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🔴 Catholic Charities of Central Texas today announced that due to lack of federal funding the organization is suspending its Refugee Resettlement program and eliminating 30 staff positions that work throughout 25 Texas counties.

Below is a copy of the organization’s formal… pic.twitter.com/BTXIQYfv2X

— 🚨 Rusty Surette (@KBTXRusty) March 10, 2025

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I always thought something was a little off with rusty surrete didn't know he was a gay married blm dude

How does Catholic Charities define "refugee"?

Are these people who have been vetted and received official immigration status as a refugee prior to receiving any financial assistance?

Also, "our refugee resettlement service depends primarily on federal funding"

Not really a "charity", now is it?

Reconfirming it was just a business paid to do things as part of an operation the state department couldn't publicly do themselves.

Refugees my ass

Billions has been going to provide housing, cars, upscale hotels to illegals

Shut this crap down

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14395237/amp/government-spending-illegal-immigrants-cars-homes-credit-cards.html

I have no problem with Catholic Charities providing food, medicine, temporary shelter, and comfort to refugees or illegal immigrants.

I have a major problem with them offering legal advice which is tantamount to grooming them on how to exploit immigration loopholes.

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I have no problem with Catholic Charities providing food, medicine, temporary shelter, and comfort to refugees or illegal immigrants.

I have a major problem with them offering legal advice which is tantamount to grooming them on how to exploit immigration loopholes.

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The relationship with Uncle Same also comes with restrictions, such as no evangelizing. Hard to keep the spiritual works of mercy paired with the corporal works of mercy, which is traditionally how the Church conducted missionary work.

It's not too hard. No proselytizing- see, easy.

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It's not too hard. No proselytizing- see, easy.

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https://www.lepantoin.org/wp/a-question-of-charity/

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I will never forget a conversation I once had with Sean Callahan, the current CEO of Catholic Relief Services whose full compensation is $643,085. I expressed my concern that Catholic Relief Services does nothing to evangelize the souls it claims to serve to which Callahan responded, "Oh we evangelize, we just don't proselytize." When I asked what he meant by this, he said, "CRS works to convert people's minds to how to treat people and how to do things, but not to the Catholic Faith." I reminded him that Catholics are obliged to proclaim the Gospel and to bring souls to Christ, and he balked. He then equated feeding people and preaching the Gospel with "bribing the poor."

Just a couple of years later, Bill O'Keefe, CRS's Vice-President for Government Relations and Advocacy, said something similar during a CNN interview in 2014. He said:

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"We assist people of all backgrounds and religions and we do not attempt to engage in discussions of faith. We're proud of that. We like to say that we assist everybody because we're Catholic, we don't assist people to become Catholic."

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Salus Animarum Suprema Lex

Sometimes people just need help. Other times they need spiritual help.

I have helped people from time to time, maybe it's changing a tire on the road or cutting my neighbor's lawn. In those times- I don't make it a point to engage in a Bible study. I do it because I love God and I know loving his creation in these small ways is how to glorify God. Occasionally I get to share my love for God through a conversation about my spirituality- at which point I give my witnesses as a Catholic Christian. God does the rest.

Like I said, it's not hard to avoid proselytizing if you know why you are doing the work you are doing.