Catholic Church's first millennial saint

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Aggie1205
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Didn't see anything obvious on the first three pages about this.

Article from the AP

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He was then declared "blessed" in 2020 after the Vatican dicastery that studies sainthood processes recognized a miraculous healing through Acutis' intercession a child in Brazil who recovered in a "scientifically inexplainable" manner.
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Last year, the church paved his way to sainthood by attributing to him a second miracle the complete healing of a Costa Rican student in Italy from major head trauma in a bicycle accident after her mother prayed at Acutis' tomb.

I'm curious and not well informed on the path to Sainthood. I thought that a person had to perform a miracle themselves to become a Saint? Is it normal that you can become one by someone praying to you?
FIDO95
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Aggie1205 said:


I'm curious and not well informed on the path to Sainthood. I thought that a person had to perform a miracle themselves to become a Saint? Is it normal that you can become one by someone praying to you?
There is an important distinction that needs to be made. Nobody should be "praying to" saints. Rather, Catholics pray that a saint pray with them and help intercede on their behalf. It is no different than asking your friend or pastor to pray for you as we believe in the everlasting soul of an individual.

The first step is that someone be "venerable" meaning they lived a pious life and/or were martyred for Christ. The next step is that a miracle needs to occur for someone asking for venerable person to intercede for them, thus providing evidence this persons soul rest with Jesus. The final step is a second miracle. Interestingly enough, an atheist is sometimes used to confirm no scientific explanation can account for declared miracle.

16 Therefore, confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another so that you may be healed. The effective [a]prayer of a righteous man can accomplish much. James 5:16

In this case, the most righteous would be someone who has been called to Heaven.
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File5
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I don't think this is correct, see Joe Heschmeyer's response to a Protestant caller on Catholic Answers here about this: https://www.catholic.com/video/do-catholics-pray-to-saints-too-much

Essentially it comes down to what you mean when you say "pray to". If you mean giving divine honor to them, we aren't praying to saints. If you mean we are talking to them so they can intercede for us as people in heaven with God's ear, then that's okay. Important distinction.
File5
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The miracle has to be attributed to *their intercession - so someone asks for his intercession for a specific cause, he ostensibly does so in Heaven, the miracle occurs on Earth, and it goes through a rigorous process to verify it occurred and that it can be attributed to him.
FIDO95
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Good video; Thanks for sharing. I do believe we are saying the same thing, and it really comes down to semantics.

Personally, I have always equated "praying to" as worship which, as Joe points out, is never allowed. However, I like how Heschmeyer differentiates that "pray to" can also be equivalent to "taking to". Rather than the words "pray to", it is really the intent that generates the problem, i.e. talking to vs worship of.
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File5
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I know some folks and even other Catholics who have issues praying to Mary (even the Rosary) and this is one of the core reasons that they cite. Of course it's a pain to have to explain the semantics in every situation, would be nice if "pray to" had only one meaning ha.
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