dermdoc said:FTACo88-FDT24dad said:dermdoc said:BusterAg said:
An existentialist view on creation:
On what "day" did God create time?
Was time in existence before light? Are light and time made up of the same basic thing (arguably so)?
The speed of light is constant to all observers. The speed we experience time, the shape of space, are both beholden to that universal law, but light is also bound by, and influenced by, gravity, and gravity also impacts the speed we experience time. When you put that all together, why things work the way they do becomes simply incomprehensible.
When it comes to creation, I do think that we have some limitations as temporal beings to deduce things based on a set of assumptions that we can't always see that we are relying on.
There is no reason to believe that the way time was experienced during the creation is the same as the way that we experience time now. If you loosen up that assumption, contemplation on how creation actually worked starts to get fuzzy, and logic and deduction cease to be helpful.
I don't see how believing in an old earth versus a young earth has any impact on your daily life.
That said, I tend to believe more of an old earth, but am flexible enough to believe that maybe time was very different during creation than it is now.
Agree.
Read The Science of God by Gerald Schroeder. Schroeder is an MIT astrophysicist and a Hebrew Bible scholar. He makes the point you guys are making about the nature of time, especially at the very beginning of creation.
It is kind of like the ages the early OT characters lived to. I think time was interpreted differently then.
Sorry for the long-time bump, but was looking for the thread that had this book, and saw this post for the first time.
Do you think it is completely impossible that Methuselah had some Nephalem blood? Would make Moses at least part Nephalem, but, why not?
Speculation and potentially blasphemy, but interesting to thing about. The three choices are:
1) In the time of Noah, we kept track of time differently. Year might really be months, or something like that. Most likely, in my mind.
2) Some humans just lived that long back then. Our telomeres didn't wind down so quickly. We weren't there, how are we supposed to know.
3) These great "men" were something more than what we know to be homo-sapiens today. Another potential stretch, but how are we to know? Was Goliath part Nephalem? The Hebrew has some hints that he might have been.
I mean, in a world where giant tic-tacs are scaring the bejeezus into everyone on board the USS Nimitz, its hard to rule anything out.