nortex97 said:

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Some KSC limitations as to how many starship launches related to the crumbling infrastructure I guess. Nasa needs to figure out how to fund/repair much of the outdated facility imho (I'd take it from the 'planetary science' budget personally, but whatever).

Kennedy Space Center is aging. Built in the '60s, critical infrastructure is beyond its design life, and literally crumbling apart, according to the inspector general.

If it's struggling with 100 launches per year, how will it cope with near 300? → https://t.co/ocg43sPe9Q pic.twitter.com/CV6iwtJs1f

— Ryan Caton (@dpoddolphinpro) June 24, 2026

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I can assure you the PAE for space access is working it, along with Vandy's infrastructure.

NASAg03 said:

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On Friday, November 13 (oh no!) the California Science Museum will open their launch-ready Space Shuttle Endeavour exhibit. Sounds like they are also adding a bunch of other air and space exhibits as well.

The Kennedy Space Center exhibit of the shuttle and the presentation is so impressive, but this might have it beat.

If Houston does get a shuttle, they will have a high bar to meet or exceed!

https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/06/november-launch-set-for-space-shuttle-endeavours-towering-display/

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Wow, took em quite a while, they were already working on that when I moved to LA in 2019

Until we get a Blancolirio report...
My guess... It was supposed to be a 1000ft (or relevant minimum) fly by. FAA suspension of flight crew certs, FO might survive if Captain was pilot flying. If FO was flying Captain should have used authority to stop this. Same logic for who is fired. Definitely the Captain, and maybe the FO. Once fired they'll be un-hireable. Qatar cargo is likely furious seeing their livery on display in this manner.



VAS saying that they pulled this same stunt at Perot Field before they landed there outside of Fort Worth.

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double aught said:

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That flyby is insane.

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I'm as impressed as anyone with a good low fly-by, but that was full out idiotic. That dude is lucky he didn't end up a charred spot on the runway, and all those people filming dead right there with him.

Hope that was his last flight.

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No kidding, very reminiscent of the idiot b-52 pilot who killed himself, his crew and either the wing or group CC, iirc, doing dumb **** like that.

Full duration single-engine static fire test of Starship pic.twitter.com/nfR8PvHpze

— SpaceX (@SpaceX) June 26, 2026

Looking at that static fire photo, the upper platform of the test stand is right about where the flanged opening is located.

BREAKING: SpaceX, $SPCX, is being added to the Nasdaq 100 on July 7th.

This marks the fastest inclusion into the Nasdaq 100 in the index’s history.

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) June 27, 2026

It is fastest in history because they changed the rules.

https://spacedaily.com/sd-v-astronauts-returning-from-six-month-missions-describe-a-persistent-observer-sensation-the-feeling-of-watching-their-own-lives-from-a-half-step-outside-the-frame-weeks-after-theyr/

I found that article really interesting.


Astronauts returning from six-month missions describe a persistent 'observer' sensation the feeling of watching their own lives from a half-step outside the frame, weeks after they're back on the ground


Astronauts coming home from long stays on the International Space Station have, for years, described a strange perceptual aftertaste: a sense of watching their own lives from a half-step outside the frame.

will25u said:

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BREAKING: SpaceX, $SPCX, is being added to the Nasdaq 100 on July 7th.

This marks the fastest inclusion into the Nasdaq 100 in the index’s history.

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) June 27, 2026

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I commented over on the B&I board....
I don't necessarily have an issue with the rule changes for index inclusion of mega-cap IPO. I think there is a larger question of why are companies waiting longer to go public today than in previous years.

What will happen is the very quick index inclusion is very likely going to have strong upward pressure on the stock price due to the current low float of tradeable shares. Of course this will then ripple across other companies as all of these indexes rebalance.

The next big adjustment will be later in the year as insiders begin to see their shares become eligible for trading. Management and individuals will do some selling, but I don't see those "relatively" small trades as needle moving outside of clickbait headlines. Senior management and executives are often offloading shares at regular intervals while simultaneously likely exercising options for reduced price shares. Where I do think we could see significant volume generation would be VC unloading their positions.

Estimates of how much of it is owned by VC firms vary, but I could see them unwinding their positions. They've likely had capital tied up for some time now and want it back off the table with their profits. Long term stock holdings aren't really their game.

Edit... forgot to say this part....
This means that I think we could see some fairly significant price action and volatility of SPCX stock over the coming months as it works to settle in and find its true market value. Especially until there is sufficient float to absorb and moderate the coming large volume moves.

Kenneth_2003 said:

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will25u said:

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BREAKING: SpaceX, $SPCX, is being added to the Nasdaq 100 on July 7th.

This marks the fastest inclusion into the Nasdaq 100 in the index’s history.

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) June 27, 2026

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I commented over on the B&I board....
I don't necessarily have an issue with the rule changes for index inclusion of mega-cap IPO. I think there is a larger question of why are companies waiting longer to go public today than in previous years.

What will happen is the very quick index inclusion is very likely going to have strong upward pressure on the stock price due to the current low float of tradeable shares. Of course this will then ripple across other companies as all of these indexes rebalance.

The next big adjustment will be later in the year as insiders begin to see their shares become eligible for trading. Management and individuals will do some selling, but I don't see those "relatively" small trades as needle moving outside of clickbait headlines. Senior management and executives are often offloading shares at regular intervals while simultaneously likely exercising options for reduced price shares. Where I do think we could see significant volume generation would be VC unloading their positions.

Estimates of how much of it is owned by VC firms vary, but I could see them unwinding their positions. They've likely had capital tied up for some time now and want it back off the table with their profits. Long term stock holdings aren't really their game.

Edit... forgot to say this part....
This means that I think we could see some fairly significant price action and volatility of SPCX stock over the coming months as it works to settle in and find its true market value. Especially until there is sufficient float to absorb and moderate the coming large volume moves.

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Lots of early investors can trade their shares now that the stock has been over the IPO price for 5 days

normal lockout is 6 months to a year. Interested to see how this balances out with the S&P inclusion

Fightin_Aggie said:

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Kenneth_2003 said:

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will25u said:

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BREAKING: SpaceX, $SPCX, is being added to the Nasdaq 100 on July 7th.

This marks the fastest inclusion into the Nasdaq 100 in the index’s history.

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) June 27, 2026

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I commented over on the B&I board....
I don't necessarily have an issue with the rule changes for index inclusion of mega-cap IPO. I think there is a larger question of why are companies waiting longer to go public today than in previous years.

What will happen is the very quick index inclusion is very likely going to have strong upward pressure on the stock price due to the current low float of tradeable shares. Of course this will then ripple across other companies as all of these indexes rebalance.

The next big adjustment will be later in the year as insiders begin to see their shares become eligible for trading. Management and individuals will do some selling, but I don't see those "relatively" small trades as needle moving outside of clickbait headlines. Senior management and executives are often offloading shares at regular intervals while simultaneously likely exercising options for reduced price shares. Where I do think we could see significant volume generation would be VC unloading their positions.

Estimates of how much of it is owned by VC firms vary, but I could see them unwinding their positions. They've likely had capital tied up for some time now and want it back off the table with their profits. Long term stock holdings aren't really their game.

Edit... forgot to say this part....
This means that I think we could see some fairly significant price action and volatility of SPCX stock over the coming months as it works to settle in and find its true market value. Especially until there is sufficient float to absorb and moderate the coming large volume moves.

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Lots of early investors can trade their shares now that the stock has been over the IPO price for 5 days

normal lockout is 6 months to a year. Interested to see how this balances out with the S&P inclusion

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OK I thought a lot of the bigger insiders were locked out until Q2 earnings release and then only a limited portion of their shares start freeing up.

It's not the new millionaire cafeteria lady paying off her mortgage and diversifying her portfolio. It's a VC firm moving $500,000,000 in shares,

My understanding is they only created one share class at IPO, but what did they have prior? I have no idea...

Doesn't SPCX need a year of profits before S&P inclusion?

Short answer, yes. 12 months for inclusion there.

Theres a longer answer towards the end of the IPO thread on B&I with links.

PJYoung said:

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https://spacedaily.com/sd-v-astronauts-returning-from-six-month-missions-describe-a-persistent-observer-sensation-the-feeling-of-watching-their-own-lives-from-a-half-step-outside-the-frame-weeks-after-theyr/

I found that article really interesting.


Astronauts returning from six-month missions describe a persistent 'observer' sensation the feeling of watching their own lives from a half-step outside the frame, weeks after they're back on the ground


Astronauts coming home from long stays on the International Space Station have, for years, described a strange perceptual aftertaste: a sense of watching their own lives from a half-step outside the frame.

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Probably because of time dilation. Time goes slower on earth than it does up in space.

The TacRS guys are doing good stuff and getting to be able to launch on demand.

https://www.ssc.spaceforce.mil/Newsroom/Article-Display/Article/4523601/us-space-force-demonstrates-responsive-launch-for-victus-haze-mission-begins-on

Here's a really good edit of ICFB 12 (Inter-Continental Fish Bomber )

TexAgs91 said:

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PJYoung said:

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https://spacedaily.com/sd-v-astronauts-returning-from-six-month-missions-describe-a-persistent-observer-sensation-the-feeling-of-watching-their-own-lives-from-a-half-step-outside-the-frame-weeks-after-theyr/

I found that article really interesting.


Astronauts returning from six-month missions describe a persistent 'observer' sensation the feeling of watching their own lives from a half-step outside the frame, weeks after they're back on the ground


Astronauts coming home from long stays on the International Space Station have, for years, described a strange perceptual aftertaste: a sense of watching their own lives from a half-step outside the frame.

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Probably because of time dilation. Time goes slower on earth than it does up in space.

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You don't experience time any differently though; it's the same in all frames. That's why it's called relativity.

Interesting. I wonder if it has to do with space at all?
Or if it from being observed, checked, double checked, little decision making capability in your day to day life, having a camera on you when awake, feeling pressure for perfection, etc. They also get in the habit of double checking themselves before any action: " Is this valve turn the wrong way going to kill me? Or cost some scientist his life's work and millions of dollars?"

Throw on top of it one mistake or missed space debris away from really bad things happening.

No one else has teams of people observing them for that long.

I've listened to a lot of folks explain time, and every single time I feel dumber.

Time is an illusion

I suspect that when you can float in 3D through a room and are put back in a world where you are suddenly confined to 2D walking on the surface, the mind will reconstruct your environment from your preferred vantage point.

Some fresh Bezos-Musk rivalry. I am surprised some of the top engineers from starship have shifted over to AI/Grok but that does likely indicate an advanced comfort/maturity/confidence for raptor 3/V3 products (and GSE) at this point.

In addition to their excellent and unique training data, the Cursor team is also making major engineering contributions to v9 SFT & RL. It’s an honor and a pleasure to work with them.

For this 1.5T run, Cursor data was added in supplemental training, which is not quite as good…

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 28, 2026

lb3 said:

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I suspect that when you can float in 3D through a room and are put back in a world where you are suddenly confined to 2D walking on the surface, the mind will reconstruct your environment from your preferred vantage point.

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Yeah. Like going for a few hours in a boat back to land it feels weird walking back on ground.

Now imagine 6 months in zero G, back to gravity. And from seeing earth as a little ball, to being on the surface looking at the horizon or tree line.

The brain processing probably is a bit confused.

nortex97 said:

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I've listened to a lot of folks explain time, and every single time I feel dumber.

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A very simple way to think of it is with the same example that formed the foundation of Einstein's realization. Imagine a clock tower on the town square marking the passage of the minutes.

If you were standing on the street the hand moves every minute marking the passage of time. Your view of the clock is the result of light reflected off the clock face and entering your eyes. Since you're stationary there is no change in the distance the light must travel so each minute is constant.

Now your bus has arrived and you're sitting in the back looking outside watching the tower grow smaller as the disance grows. The hands still move marking the passage of time. BUT the light must now travel farther to reach you. In your world it is still 5:07 when to an observer on the street corner the hand has already advanced to 5:08 but that movement has not yet reached your position. Since you are traveling away from the clock tower you are experiencing time dilation relative to the town square. Each minute on that clock tower are slightly longer for you as the distance between you and that clock grows.

Oh and tomorrow morning you truthfully need to leave home early because every minute will pass ever so slightly quicker as you drive toward the tower. You are passing forward through time as you shorten the distance between yourself and the fixed point that you are using to measure time.

If you were to sync your watch to that clock tower then proceed to drive fast enough long enough you will observe your watch grow ahead of the clock tower. Time for you is moving faster than your observation of time on the town square. Reset your watch the following morning and go back to town your watch will be behind the clock tower when you arrive.

That's not a great analogy. If the bus turns around in your analogy and returns to the clock, the time delta corrects itself, but that's not how time dilation works.

lb3 said:

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That's not a great analogy. If the bus turns around in your analogy and returns to the clock, the time delta corrects itself, but that's not how time dilation works.

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Also if you're flying circles really fast around a central point you can experience time dilation while never moving towards or away from that center

I would argue that particular analogy is just perception and in fact not time dilation, which as you say has real and measurable effect, to the point where it causes clocks -- whether electrical, quartz, mechanical, atomic, whatever -- to *actually* run faster.

Decay said:

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lb3 said:

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That's not a great analogy. If the bus turns around in your analogy and returns to the clock, the time delta corrects itself, but that's not how time dilation works.

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Also if you're flying circles really fast around a central point you can experience time dilation while never moving towards or away from that center

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In Star Trek I saw them go counterclockwise around the earth in the Enterprise and go back in time that way.

Christopher Reeves did that.

TxSquarebody said:

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Christopher Reeves did that.

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No he just looked at an old penny and convinced himself.

Kenneth_2003 said:

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Fightin_Aggie said:

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Kenneth_2003 said:

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will25u said:

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BREAKING: SpaceX, $SPCX, is being added to the Nasdaq 100 on July 7th.

This marks the fastest inclusion into the Nasdaq 100 in the index’s history.

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) June 27, 2026

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I commented over on the B&I board....
I don't necessarily have an issue with the rule changes for index inclusion of mega-cap IPO. I think there is a larger question of why are companies waiting longer to go public today than in previous years.

What will happen is the very quick index inclusion is very likely going to have strong upward pressure on the stock price due to the current low float of tradeable shares. Of course this will then ripple across other companies as all of these indexes rebalance.

The next big adjustment will be later in the year as insiders begin to see their shares become eligible for trading. Management and individuals will do some selling, but I don't see those "relatively" small trades as needle moving outside of clickbait headlines. Senior management and executives are often offloading shares at regular intervals while simultaneously likely exercising options for reduced price shares. Where I do think we could see significant volume generation would be VC unloading their positions.

Estimates of how much of it is owned by VC firms vary, but I could see them unwinding their positions. They've likely had capital tied up for some time now and want it back off the table with their profits. Long term stock holdings aren't really their game.

Edit... forgot to say this part....
This means that I think we could see some fairly significant price action and volatility of SPCX stock over the coming months as it works to settle in and find its true market value. Especially until there is sufficient float to absorb and moderate the coming large volume moves.

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Lots of early investors can trade their shares now that the stock has been over the IPO price for 5 days

normal lockout is 6 months to a year. Interested to see how this balances out with the S&P inclusion

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OK I thought a lot of the bigger insiders were locked out until Q2 earnings release and then only a limited portion of their shares start freeing up.

It's not the new millionaire cafeteria lady paying off her mortgage and diversifying her portfolio. It's a VC firm moving $500,000,000 in shares,

My understanding is they only created one share class at IPO, but what did they have prior? I have no idea...

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I was a little off. Seeing lots of different postings. Here is the one that is easy and seems most accurate

SpaceX Floating Supply Expansion (Estimated Trajectory)

• [June 2026] 4% Initial IPO Float
• [Late July] 8% (After Q2 Earnings Release)
• [September] 24% (Rolling 7% Tranches)
• [November] 48% (After Q3 Earnings Release)
• [Dec 2026] 66% (Full Employee Unlock)
• [June 2027] 100% (Elon Musk / Insiders)

https://www.investing.com/analysis/spacex-lockup-countdown-when-shares-may-become-safer-to-buy-200682574

That's very helpful! Thank you

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— Polymarket (@Polymarket) June 30, 2026