Edit. Included the wrong post.

Trump disclosed his plans with European leaders on Wednesday. The meetings would include only those three men, and would not include any European counterparts.

It was not immediately clear if Putin or Zelensky had agreed to the plan Trump described.https://t.co/DnGEhrDtcD

— Status-6 (Military & Conflict News) (@Archer83Able) August 6, 2025

Very slim chance Putin leaves Russia or Zelensky goes to Russia, unfortunately

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Very slim chance Putin leaves Russia or Zelensky goes to Russia, unfortunately

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why not go to Warsaw or Vilnius then

there is that part of Russia in Kaliningrad maybe Putie Poot would go there...

Ukraine has developed a new reuseable interceptor drone.

"The Mongoose is a jet-powered, fixed-wing UAV equipped with a heat-seeking guidance system and a multi-barrel shotgun designed to disable enemy drones by targeting their engines or propellers."

SHOTGUN

⚠️ For more than a week, no mass launches of “Shaheds” have been recorded on the territory of Ukraine. The number of launches does not even reach the daily production figure, which means that accumulation is taking place.

❗️The reasons for this lull remain unknown for now. pic.twitter.com/N517zGb7vm

— MAKS 25 🇺🇦👀 (@Maks_NAFO_FELLA) August 7, 2025

Waffledynamics said:

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⚠️ For more than a week, no mass launches of “Shaheds” have been recorded on the territory of Ukraine. The number of launches does not even reach the daily production figure, which means that accumulation is taking place.

❗️The reasons for this lull remain unknown for now. pic.twitter.com/N517zGb7vm

— MAKS 25 🇺🇦👀 (@Maks_NAFO_FELLA) August 7, 2025

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Just in time for the next round of peace talks.

Panic is spreading tonight throughout several Telegram channels affiliated with the Russian Armed Forces, as reports indicate that another coordinated attack by the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) using truck-launched drones, similar to Operation Spiderweb, may be underway or… pic.twitter.com/7R7jI5zjSV

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) August 7, 2025

We can only hope.

There is news in Russian chats that FPV drones are currently flying out of this car... but this photo is our psychological operation through bots throw into their chats 😅

Most likely, the Russians are just spreading panic( pic.twitter.com/cej2UmUPaE

— MAKS 25 🇺🇦👀 (@Maks_NAFO_FELLA) August 7, 2025

Ukrainian unmanned sea drones launch FPVs drones of their own against air defenses in occupied Crimea hitting several key radars essential for defending the peninsula. RADARS.

Ground drones launching drones will be next.

Ukrainian ground drone launching strike drones. It was just a matter of time pic.twitter.com/mJIj13PdFX

— Preston Stewart (@prestonstew_) August 7, 2025

From that link:

A Ukrainian AN-196 “Liutyi” Long-Range One-Way Attack Drone passes at low altitude over Sochi during tonight’s large-scale drone attack against infrastructure targets in Southern Russia. pic.twitter.com/Lmu0DZrHZf

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) July 24, 2025

It's really kind of wild the Jet age began at the end of WWII and now slow propeller driven suicide drones are so effective.

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It's really kind of wild the Jet age began at the end of WWII and now slow propeller driven suicide drones are so effective.

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they are only effective because the Russkies and Ukes do not have enough anti-drone weapons.

the USA and Israel will not be in the same position-

Hamas and Hizbullah and Iran fired literally OVER 1000 drones at Israel and their hit rate is around 4%.

And that depleted our stockpiles of interceptors so severely that we paused shipments to Ukraine. It's also something Ukraine sees pretty regularly. Russia is working on producing enough drones to launch attacks like that every month. That's something even we would have trouble countering after awhile unless we increase our production capabilities substantially. It's also unsustainable from a cost perspective as we saw with US warships shooting down Houthi drones and missiles.

It's a strategic problem no matter how you slice it.

Ukraine modifies a crop duster aircraft to hunt larger drones. It isn't the first civilian aircraft it has converted for this mission.

EXPEDIENT

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And that depleted our stockpiles of interceptors so severely that we paused shipments to Ukraine. It's also something Ukraine sees pretty regularly. Russia is working on producing enough drones to launch attacks like that every month. That's something even we would have trouble countering after awhile unless we increase our production capabilities substantially. It's also unsustainable from a cost perspective as we saw with US warships shooting down Houthi drones and missiles.

It's a strategic problem no matter how you slice it.

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We would bomb the drone production which Ukraine can't do effectively. It also doesn't help that Ukraine can't attack Russian suppliers in China.

I'm shocked to read that we've only produced about 5000 tomahawks since they were introduced. Given that we produce less than 100 per year, on average, and we can burn through 100 or more in a single night it wouldn't take long to deplete our inventory in a major confrontation. I would like to see our inventory up around 15000. We probably have over 100k JDAMs in inventory however so it's not like we can't wreck stuff, we just need air superiority to do it.

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Ukraine modifies a crop duster aircraft to hunt larger drones. It isn't the first civilian aircraft it has converted for this mission.

EXPEDIENT

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Ukraine is improvising as they go. What is needed is a cheap countermeasure that can be mass produced. The plane costs approximately $500K and missiles at $10K each. I am sure they are working on that. Save the big cost items for the cruise and hypersonic missiles.

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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And that depleted our stockpiles of interceptors so severely that we paused shipments to Ukraine. It's also something Ukraine sees pretty regularly. Russia is working on producing enough drones to launch attacks like that every month. That's something even we would have trouble countering after awhile unless we increase our production capabilities substantially. It's also unsustainable from a cost perspective as we saw with US warships shooting down Houthi drones and missiles.

It's a strategic problem no matter how you slice it.

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We would bomb the drone production which Ukraine can't do effectively. It also doesn't help that Ukraine can't attack Russian suppliers in China.

I'm shocked to read that we've only produced about 5000 tomahawks since they were introduced. Given that we produce less than 100 per year, on average, and we can burn through 100 or more in a single night it wouldn't take long to deplete our inventory in a major confrontation. I would like to see our inventory up around 15000. We probably have over 100k JDAMs in inventory however so it's not like we can't wreck stuff, we just need air superiority to do it.

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I don't think your production number for tomahawks is accurate. There are archived sources from 10-15 years ago saying we had built more than that back then. We have fired almost 2500 in combat and reportedly have around 4000 on hand.

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lb3 said:

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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And that depleted our stockpiles of interceptors so severely that we paused shipments to Ukraine. It's also something Ukraine sees pretty regularly. Russia is working on producing enough drones to launch attacks like that every month. That's something even we would have trouble countering after awhile unless we increase our production capabilities substantially. It's also unsustainable from a cost perspective as we saw with US warships shooting down Houthi drones and missiles.

It's a strategic problem no matter how you slice it.

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We would bomb the drone production which Ukraine can't do effectively. It also doesn't help that Ukraine can't attack Russian suppliers in China.

I'm shocked to read that we've only produced about 5000 tomahawks since they were introduced. Given that we produce less than 100 per year, on average, and we can burn through 100 or more in a single night it wouldn't take long to deplete our inventory in a major confrontation. I would like to see our inventory up around 15000. We probably have over 100k JDAMs in inventory however so it's not like we can't wreck stuff, we just need air superiority to do it.

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I don't think your production number for tomahawks is accurate. There are archived sources from 10-15 years ago saying we had built more than that back then. We have fired almost 2500 in combat and reportedly have around 4000 on hand.

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Would love to what kind of havoc Ukraine could do with about 400.

ABATTBQ11 said:

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And that depleted our stockpiles of interceptors so severely that we paused shipments to Ukraine. It's also something Ukraine sees pretty regularly. Russia is working on producing enough drones to launch attacks like that every month. That's something even we would have trouble countering after awhile unless we increase our production capabilities substantially. It's also unsustainable from a cost perspective as we saw with US warships shooting down Houthi drones and missiles.

It's a strategic problem no matter how you slice it.

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Katherine Boyle on SRS podcast is excellent. She goes into the Ukraine war a bit and basically states our greatest weakness right now is the ability to rapidly produce munitions. Whereas russia, china, Ukraine are at the forefront. Its a very good listen.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/2oAwUzLJUPrO6dw8SXH3ak?si=VcTCL-B6QT-z6XAbOPMkDg

Disgusting. Alaska will be soiled by mass-murderer Putin's presence. Anchorage will need a power-wash afterwards to remove the stench.

The russians created an online catalog of children kidnapped from the occupied Luhansk region. One can filter kids by gender, eye or hair color. The site adds descriptions like "calm," "obedient," and "respectful."

Can't believe the world just observes this human trafficking. https://t.co/BHgwHmcLBq pic.twitter.com/VsJVdokLgK

— Olena Halushka (@OlenaHalushka) August 7, 2025

74OA said:

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Disgusting. Alaska will be soiled by mass-murderer Putin's presence. Anchorage will need a power-wash afterwards to remove the stench.

The russians created an online catalog of children kidnapped from the occupied Luhansk region. One can filter kids by gender, eye or hair color. The site adds descriptions like "calm," "obedient," and "respectful."

Can't believe the world just observes this human trafficking. https://t.co/BHgwHmcLBq pic.twitter.com/VsJVdokLgK

— Olena Halushka (@OlenaHalushka) August 7, 2025

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We can only count the ways the Kremlin is likely manipulating these kids. Probably leading them to believe that they will be reunited with their family soon in order to gain their trust. This is heinous evil but rationalized away as a necessity to protect Mother Russia as well as to protect "traditional family values".

Here's the latest campaign update. As always, if too long, scroll down to the bullet summary points.

In advance of his Alaska trip, Putin continues to demand to get paid to make peace. "Kremlin officials are reportedly demanding that Ukraine cede to Russia strategically vital unoccupied territory in Donetsk Oblast and freeze the frontline in other areas as part of a ceasefire agreement." These lands encompass Ukrainian oil, gas, mineral and agricultural resources valued in the hundreds of billions.

ISW

I wish Trump would go with the stick approach - if no peace, then US sanctions China and India for oil purchases and supplies Ukraine with tomahawks. But that's a pipe dream

UPDATE: Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy rejected Russian President Vladimir Putin's deal Saturday, saying, "Ukrainians will not give their land to the occupier."

Read more:https://t.co/bXCnhGNpI1

— AllSides (@AllSidesNow) August 9, 2025

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I wish Trump would go with the stick approach - if no peace, then US sanctions China and India for oil purchases and supplies Ukraine with tomahawks. But that's a pipe dream

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The stick is the only thing Russia in general and Putin in particular understands.

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To make the stick a viable threat, sometimes you have to demonstrate the willingness to use it. Otherwise it is just empty words.

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The only stick that will work would be western troops on the ground. Theres nothing left weapon wise that will turn this war.

txags92 said:

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SamHou said:

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I wish Trump would go with the stick approach - if no peace, then US sanctions China and India for oil purchases and supplies Ukraine with tomahawks. But that's a pipe dream

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The stick is the only thing Russia in general and Putin in particular understands.

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To make the stick a viable threat, sometimes you have to demonstrate the willingness to use it. Otherwise it is just empty words.

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Never take it off of the table. Post WWII, we were the only economy and stick around. We did the Berlin Airlift, still a marvel of precision and generosity that no other nation has ever done, before or since.

Part of our stick is nuclear and our standing military. Other part of the stick is economic. Military backs up the economic stick because they are so connected. Why the Soviet Union fell in the first place. When we (secretly) got involved in the Soviet/Afghan War, screwed the Soviets up. They could not rule with a depleted military.

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txags92 said:

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74OA said:

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SamHou said:

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I wish Trump would go with the stick approach - if no peace, then US sanctions China and India for oil purchases and supplies Ukraine with tomahawks. But that's a pipe dream

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The stick is the only thing Russia in general and Putin in particular understands.

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To make the stick a viable threat, sometimes you have to demonstrate the willingness to use it. Otherwise it is just empty words.

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The only stick that will work would be western troops on the ground. Theres nothing left weapon wise that will turn this war.

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There are ways we could turn the tide or at least stop the slow orc advances without boots on the ground. Shutting off russian export sales through punitive tariffs is one that would choke Russia's economy in short order. Giving Ukraine a significant number of Tomahawks and authorizing them to hit Russian oil export infrastructure. Using our airborne radar systems and other assets to vector interceptors to missiles and drones.

The issue is that that will take a while. Probably a long while to have any effect.

Putin isnt going to change his tune, especially so long as India, China, Germany and other keep buying their oil.

Sanctions won't stop this war. Weapons won't stop this war. Im not going to say we fully maxed their usefulness out; but they are probably not the answer you're looking for

Nuclear is not a stick here.

Really impressive how Ukraine is holding this sector. It's still in imminent danger and most likely will fall soon, but they've been almost frozen like this for a while now.

hey fXXkers....
day 15.. still not falling pic.twitter.com/f28UzF4MNY

— david D. (@secretsqrl123) August 9, 2025

A driver in awe provides a decent BDA of an ongoing fire at Russia's Saratov oil refinery. https://t.co/Jp1sQIiPmg pic.twitter.com/nqdTgNyi4V

— Status-6 (Military & Conflict News) (@Archer83Able) August 10, 2025