Secret Service Agent Tries To Smuggle Wife on Cargo Flight to Scotland

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Sigh…what the heck was this couple thinking? They were that desperate to try to sneak a personal perk out of that trip?
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better be the end of his career!
Captain Pablo
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Let me guess. Civil servant, so 48 hours paid leave and no dessert after supper for a week?
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Free trip to Scotland
Get Off My Lawn
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"Do we not have Space-A in this org? Was that wrong? Should I have not done that?"

Honestly - of all the things our govt does wrong, a guy trying to bring his wife on a transport with him is pretty small potatoes.
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Captain Pablo said:

Let me guess. Civil servant, so 48 hours paid leave and no dessert after supper for a week?


It took both of them to together make the dumb decision. The secret service hubby and the active duty USAF wife. Neither one apparently had a moment of ethical clarity to stop the bad idea.
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Wildest part of this is the dems suddenly caring about Trump's safety.
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Get Off My Lawn said:

"Do we not have Space-A in this org? Was that wrong? Should I have not done that?"

Honestly - of all the things our govt does wrong, a guy trying to bring his wife on a transport with him is pretty small potatoes.

Yeah because we've never had significant others in government who weren't who they appeared to be. Eric Swalwell comes immediately to mind.
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Carry on baggage?


( ...voice punctuated with a clap of distant thunder... )
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What a bunch of clowns. Remember how much respect used to be commanded by any federal special agent? Now they are a laughing stock.
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Get Off My Lawn said:

"Do we not have Space-A in this org? Was that wrong? Should I have not done that?"

Honestly - of all the things our govt does wrong, a guy trying to bring his wife on a transport with him is pretty small potatoes.


On the dumbness scale I'd rank this just a notch below taking your mistress to a Coldplay concert and getting caught in front of the entire world. If the secret service agent had been trying to sneak his mistress on the flight instead of his wife, then it would be Coldplay Concert level dumbassery.
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Captain Pablo said:

Let me guess. Civil servant, so 48 hours paid leave and no dessert after supper for a week?


Honestly if they do fire this guy, he should raise hell.

No agent involved with the Butler shooting was fired. The head girl resigned but someone should have been canned for that crap! The head of the SS didn't plan and execute that op.

eta: im not saying two wrongs make a right, but the SS is messed up!
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IIIHorn said:

Carry on baggage?

With her 15 different personalities
All the gods, all the heavens, all the hells are within you. Joseph Campbell

My paycheck goes to my wife's shopping addiction, red bull and nicotine.
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Get Off My Lawn said:

"Do we not have Space-A in this org? Was that wrong? Should I have not done that?"

Honestly - of all the things our govt does wrong, a guy trying to bring his wife on a transport with him is pretty small potatoes.

Yeah, a guy that is responsible for the safety of the President of the United States and relied upon to make good, sound decisions should totally get a mulligan for this. Are you for real? It wasn't like an airline pilot giving his wife a jumpseat spot.
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13B said:

Get Off My Lawn said:

"Do we not have Space-A in this org? Was that wrong? Should I have not done that?"

Honestly - of all the things our govt does wrong, a guy trying to bring his wife on a transport with him is pretty small potatoes.

Yeah, a guy that is responsible for the safety of the President of the United States and relied upon to make good, sound decisions should totally get a mulligan for this. Are you for real? It wasn't like an airline pilot giving his wife a jumpseat spot.



Who knows if we find out what happens to that guy, or the wife for that matter over in the Air Force handling of her part in this, but I got a sneaking suspicion that the next cool overseas destination trip by Trump, that particular agent won't be on the detail traveling over there.
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The USSS traded Colombian hookers for their own wives!

Make your own wife great again!
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Pumpkinhead said:

Secret Service Agent Tries To Smuggle Wife on Cargo Flight to Scotland

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I said a In a previous post that this wasn't a crime, but technically it sounds like they did at least flirt with an 'impersonating a federal officer' charge on the wife who was pretending to be something she wasn't. Which they probably won't go there but just dumb, dumb, dumb by them.

Also I would be curious what that couple's remaining plans were. She was going to stay in the same hotel room as the hubby? Is that allowed for Secret Sevice on active detail on overseas trip to have a spouse staying with them? I'd be curious how many agency violations the 'Let's make a Boondongle of this POTUS Trip!' Idea had besides just sneaking on the Cargo plane.
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What is it about Dallas and the Secret Service?
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Some people are just stupid. In what world would a SS agent think he could smuggle his wife on a presidential oversees trip? He should get fired soley on the fact that he's either dumb, or highly arrogant with bad judgement, or both.
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BboroAg said:

What is it about Dallas and the Secret Service?

It's call tradition.

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Psycho Bunny said:

IIIHorn said:

Carry on baggage?

With her 15 different personalities


User name checks out.
"A is A”
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Ag87H2O said:

Some people are just stupid. In what world would a SS agent think he could smuggle his wife on a presidential oversees trip? He should get fired soley on the fact that he's either dumb, or highly arrogant with bad judgement, or both.

i can see this happening in the past when maybe nobody was paying attention to security. My guess is this was probable a common practice that got exposed.
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Logos Stick said:

Captain Pablo said:

Let me guess. Civil servant, so 48 hours paid leave and no dessert after supper for a week?


Honestly if they do fire this guy, he should raise hell.

No agent involved with the Butler shooting was fired. The head girl resigned but someone should have been canned for that crap! The head of the SS didn't plan and execute that op.

eta: im not saying two wrongs make a right, but the SS is messed up!


If his wife has exposure to an 'impersonating a federal officer' criminal charge I think if they asked for his quiet resignation as an alternative route to go then he'd probably have to accept that deal without any 'raising hell'
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Husband and wife both had federal jobs but decided to risk it all to save $379 by flying cargo to Edinburgh.
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Well, it is a cool story.

I am sure they'll laugh about it in 30 or 35 years.
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Was it a military flight transporting cargo? I think that it is sometimes allowed for active duty personnel to request seating on military flights with available seating to travel but I don't know under what conditions or if that would apply to an aircraft flying part of a presidential details. But if some cargo flight was going across the USA and some active duty person was going to travel that way during a leave then I believe they could apply to catch a ride, or at least that used to be an option.
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The approval authority for space A in this case lies with WHMO.

Should he have done it? No.

Is it worth a thread over? God no.
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K2-HMFIC said:

The approval authority for space A in this case lies with WHMO.

Should he have done it? No.

Is it worth a thread over? God no.


Absolutely is worth a thread!

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/agents-alleged-attempt-smuggle-wife-trumps-scotland-trip-being-probed-latest-secret-service-fiasco.amp
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This is pretty weird, but couldn't he have just asked if she could've come? Maybe they don't allow that and fine if they don't, but this seems like a very weird way to go about it. Just totally screwed his career.
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Pumpkinhead said:

K2-HMFIC said:

The approval authority for space A in this case lies with WHMO.

Should he have done it? No.

Is it worth a thread over? God no.


Absolutely is worth a thread!

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/agents-alleged-attempt-smuggle-wife-trumps-scotland-trip-being-probed-latest-secret-service-fiasco.amp


His wife is military and has space an eligibility rights…however the authority lies with the mission owner. In this case WHMO.

It's not a matter of "smuggling" it's just someone didn't do the right paperwork and thought they could get someone on board without getting mission owner approval.
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K2-HMFIC said:

Pumpkinhead said:

K2-HMFIC said:

The approval authority for space A in this case lies with WHMO.

Should he have done it? No.

Is it worth a thread over? God no.


Absolutely is worth a thread!

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/agents-alleged-attempt-smuggle-wife-trumps-scotland-trip-being-probed-latest-secret-service-fiasco.amp


His wife is military and has space an eligibility rights…however the authority lies with the mission owner. In this case WHMO.

It's not a matter of "smuggling" it's just someone didn't do the right paperwork and thought they could get someone on board without getting mission owner approval.


And he didn't think to ask his supervisors (boss) if it was okay beforehand? He innocently assumed it was okay and then he and his wife were surprised when his supervisors discovered she was trying to get on the flight and booted her off?

Not buying it.

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Probably her idea and he wanted the nagging to stop, that or she offered a trade of some sort.
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Pumpkinhead said:

Get Off My Lawn said:

"Do we not have Space-A in this org? Was that wrong? Should I have not done that?"

Honestly - of all the things our govt does wrong, a guy trying to bring his wife on a transport with him is pretty small potatoes.


On the dumbness scale I'd rank this just a notch below taking your mistress to a Coldplay concert and getting caught in front of the entire world. If the secret service agent had been trying to sneak his mistress on the flight instead of his wife, then it would be Coldplay Concert level dumbassery.



At least in this case it was his wife.
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