UIL realignment should be done by the State House...

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I saw my alma mater along with the other 4 6A schools in Arlington got put with freaking Aledo, Weatherford, and Granbury who all moved up to 6A.

This has to be the most ridiculous redistricting at the top classification I have seen yet. And there are several glaring stupidities alone in the 6A classification without me having looked at 5A and the rest.

It's time to put the legislature in charge of UIL redistricting now.
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Also congrats to Aledo on defacto winning the district the next two years. Heavens forbid they end up in a district with Southlake Carroll... which would have made way more sense.
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Why do you want it f'd up more?
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Ginormus Ag said:

Why do you want it f'd up more?

Im not convinced it would be worse.

These UIL folks realigning these teams are NOT elected leaders. No real accountability. Often entrenched.

Same problems here in Alabama and other states -- tbh. Credit to the UIL on not allowing boys to play in girls sports in TX though.
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Yes, we need the government to fix it. Splendid idea
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Homeschoolers and private schools don't have this problem.
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TheEternalOptimist said:

I saw my alma mater along with the other 4 6A schools in Arlington got put with freaking Aledo, Weatherford, and Granbury who all moved up to 6A.

This has to be the most ridiculous redistricting at the top classification I have seen yet. And there are several glaring stupidities alone in the 6A classification without me having looked at 5A and the rest.

It's time to put the legislature in charge of UIL redistricting now.


Granbury and Weatherford have been 6A for years. Only Aledo moved up.
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Teslag said:

TheEternalOptimist said:

I saw my alma mater along with the other 4 6A schools in Arlington got put with freaking Aledo, Weatherford, and Granbury who all moved up to 6A.

This has to be the most ridiculous redistricting at the top classification I have seen yet. And there are several glaring stupidities alone in the 6A classification without me having looked at 5A and the rest.

It's time to put the legislature in charge of UIL redistricting now.


Granbury and Weatherford have been 6A for years. Only Aledo moved up.

I stand corrected on that. My apologies.

Geographic stupidity is still the main point.

Boswell, Northwest schools, and Carroll should have been their district. Not Arlington.

Got a buddy coaching in AISD. He said they were fortunate to have sensible districts for 4 years with the GP schools. But the chain of good luck is apparently over.

Bearkats will dominate that district.
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Psycho Bunny said:

Homeschoolers and private schools don't have this problem.


But nobody cares about them.
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DannyDuberstein said:

Yes, we need the government to fix it. Splendid idea

All but two schools in the UIL are public schools. The schools who vote in the UIL leadership are government controlled. So it already is government running it - just not government that is directly accountable to the people.
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12thMan9 said:

Psycho Bunny said:

Homeschoolers and private schools don't have this problem.


But nobody cares about them.

I do.

Doesn't Texas now allow home schoolers to participate in sports and UIL competition in the district and attendance zone in which they reside?

The two Jesuit schools being exclusively allowed to be in the UIL is quite hilarious. Surprised this has been going on for 20 years without other private schools being allowed to join too.
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Round rock Isd drives through Leander Isd to play Westlake and lake Travis. Leander Isd (read: vandegrift, a stones throw from Westlake/lt)) drives through round rock Isd to play hutto and east view (Georgetown). Dripping springs goes south Austin while lake Travis uses their field for home games. Leander Isd goes region 3 and plays Houston schools in playoffs. Other Austin area 6a's stay region 4 and go San Antonio/valley.

1. Protect Westlake/lt/vandy at all costs
2. Placate round rock Isd by finally letting them play someone else besides Westlake/lt in the first round
3. No one is happy but Westlake/lt
4. Profit


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Is this really that big of a deal?

I'm Gipper
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TheEternalOptimist said:

12thMan9 said:

Psycho Bunny said:

Homeschoolers and private schools don't have this problem.


But nobody cares about them.

I do.

Doesn't Texas now allow home schoolers to participate in sports and UIL competition in the district and attendance zone in which they reside?

The two Jesuit schools being exclusively allowed to be in the UIL is quite hilarious. Surprised this has been going on for 20 years without other private schools being allowed to join too.

Yes Texas does allows. Quick google search Yes, homeschool children can play public school sports in Texas, as new legislation (Senate Bill 401) starting with the 2025-2026 school year requires districts to allow them by default unless the school board specifically opts out by September 1, 2025. Homeschoolers must reside in the district, show proof of residency, and meet UIL eligibility requirements, such as maintaining passing grades
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TheEternalOptimist said:

12thMan9 said:

Psycho Bunny said:

Homeschoolers and private schools don't have this problem.


But nobody cares about them.

I do.

Doesn't Texas now allow home schoolers to participate in sports and UIL competition in the district and attendance zone in which they reside?

The two Jesuit schools being exclusively allowed to be in the UIL is quite hilarious. Surprised this has been going on for 20 years without other private schools being allowed to join too.


Strake gets to join the 6A Fort Bend schools this go-around since Dulles dropped to 5A.

Also noticed that an Austin-area district is now in Region 3…Districts 23 and 24 will be some traveling for bi-district games when you have a Bridgeland (23) vs. Vandegrift (24) or some such.
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Try to remain optimistic.
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None of the other private schools want to participate in UIL. Jesuits didn't either but they got kicked out of TAPPS essentially.
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I think Crosby got hit hard. They got North Shore, Atascocita, Summer Creek, Kingwood, etc in their district.
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Yes Texas allows it but I think most districts opted out of allowing them to play.
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TAMU1990 said:

I think Crosby got hit hard. They got North Shore, Atascocita, Summer Creek, Kingwood, etc in their district.

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Yup my kids go to Kingwood. Two years ago we squeaked out a win against CE king and went 4 rounds in the playoffs only to be knocked out by a team in our own district.

Here is what google ai says.

For the 20242026 UIL seasons, Kingwood High School football competes in Class 6A, Region III, District 23, frequently dubbed a "District of Doom" due to its high competitiveness. The district includes Atascocita, Humble, Summer Creek, North Shore, Channelview, and C.E. King.
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UIL 5A Division 1.

I hope those busses get good gas mileage

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BCOBQ98 said:

Yup my kids go to Kingwood. Two years ago we squeaked out a win against CE king and went 4 rounds in the playoffs only to be knocked out by a team in our own district.

Here is what google ai says.

For the 20242026 UIL seasons, Kingwood High School football competes in Class 6A, Region III, District 23, frequently dubbed a "District of Doom" due to its high competitiveness. The district includes Atascocita, Humble, Summer Creek, North Shore, Channelview, and C.E. King.


Eventually only one team can come out of the region per Div1/2. In soccer, it's not uncommon for two KatyISD schools to play each other in the Regional round. And usually the team who has swept the other in district play loses.
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BCOBQ98 said:

Yup my kids go to Kingwood. Two years ago we squeaked out a win against CE king and went 4 rounds in the playoffs only to be knocked out by a team in our own district.

Here is what google ai says.

For the 20242026 UIL seasons, Kingwood High School football competes in Class 6A, Region III, District 23, frequently dubbed a "District of Doom" due to its high competitiveness. The district includes Atascocita, Humble, Summer Creek, North Shore, Channelview, and C.E. King.

I remember back in the 90s when Kingwood was playing Humble, Aldine, Eisenhower, MacArthur, Nimitz, Spring, and Baytown. At least Kingwood won halftime every year.
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The amount of ignorance (and I want to use a stronger word than that, but I won't even though it is applicable) on this thread is staggering. Some of you need to change your handle to something with "Karen" in it.

1. I am hardly a fan of UIL and think some redistricting decisions boggle the mind. But trying to put it into the hands of the legislature is laughable at best and idiotic at worst. It is political enough; why make it more so. Besides, why make it more adversarial? Legislatures are there to represent their district. They're going to advocate for their area as much as they can. If some of them had their way, they'd put a school like Duncanville or Southlake in a 6-man district and still let them play with 11. At least UIL attempts to be somewhat objective. Sure, they fail sometimes but I don't really think they start out with a "let's put x in y (whatever: district, class, etc.)." The lone exception here seems to be Highland Park, who always seems to be on the 5A side of the split. Either they have a source or UIL really is refilling their water.

2. Football, believe it or not, is not the only sport up for consideration. In different classifications, there are football only districts, football and basketball, etc. Competitiveness rarely factors in to any decisions, nor should it. Aledo can't be in a district with Prosper, Allen, Southlake, Duncanville, and North Shore, but that seems to be what OP is suggesting.

3. If Granbury wasn't in district 3, they'd have to either be in district 2 with Odessa, Midland, and San Angelo schools, OR, they'd have to be in district 4 with Southlake and the Kellers schools. OP, which scenario would you prefer? District 5 and 6 are all Denton and Collin County schools (and Jesuit in 6) while 7 is the Planos, Richardsons, and Coppell. 8 is mid-cities schools. Granbury is where they belong.

4. Any private school can play in UIL. However, they have to play in the class where the largest school in their town plays in. For example, if Prestonwood was going to go UIL, they'd be in 6A because of the Plano schools. Same is true with Parish Epis. If either could go 5A, particularly 5AD2, they probably would. But right now, TAPPS has no problem with either. TAPPS told Dallas and Strake Jesuit years ago that they didn't have a spot for them. Now both are entrenched UIL schools, with DJ competing at a high level in soccer, among other things.

5. I don't know what OP is talking about when he says 6A is a "ridiculous" reclassification. From what I see, it is VERY clean. No Euless Trinity having to travel to San Angelo, for example. Granbury is 50 miles to Arlington Lamar HS. I think that's their furthest trip. Granbury has been over 2200 in enrollment for a while and would have made 6A last year but the cutoff number was higher than it was this year. Overall state enrollment is declining with some larger schools from last time dropping. Granbury got larger, so they move up. Its neither ridiculous nor the least bit controversial. If they're unable to compete, well, that's too bad. Join one of hundreds of clubs.

6. Finally, UIL has a hell of a lot of problems. Just getting into a few, they refuse to get too deep into recruiting, they allow district committees to play politics with rule violations, they let schools skirt rules (both playing rules and administrative) all the time. However, reclassification, while nowhere near perfect, isn't one of their problems. The OP not liking his district isn't proof of anything other than a case of "you need to get over that," and fast.
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DannyDuberstein said:

Yes, we need the government to fix it. Splendid idea

The Gipper knew...the nine most terrifying words in the English language..."I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help."
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Sid Farkas said:

DannyDuberstein said:

Yes, we need the government to fix it. Splendid idea

The Gipper knew...the nine most terrifying words in the English language..."I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help."





Can someone explain why its such a big deal that this district is this way?

I'm Gipper
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TheEternalOptimist said:

Also congrats to Aledo on defacto winning the district the next two years. Heavens forbid they end up in a district with Southlake Carroll... which would have made way more sense.

More realistically, Aledo should be in with the North Crowley and Crowley high schools, but I'm sure the UIL decision makers didn't want to do that to a scared cow like Aledo.
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They grouped Granbury / Aledo / Weatherford as a pod with the Arlington schools. In the past, Weatherford has been grouped with Keller and other schools within the mid-cities. I think this district makes sense.

My kids play in a 3A district - the amount of transport is a lot worse than what you are seeing in this district.
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TheEternalOptimist said:

Ginormus Ag said:

Why do you want it f'd up more?

Im not convinced it would be worse.

These UIL folks realigning these teams are NOT elected leaders. No real accountability. Often entrenched.

Same problems here in Alabama and other states -- tbh. Credit to the UIL on not allowing boys to play in girls sports in TX though.



Last go around in 5A, Kerrville Tivy and Victoria West were in the same district. That meant someone was driving 150 miles one-way for sporting events. It was all a ripple effect caused by the number of 5A schools in the RGV, Corpus, San Antonio, and South Texas.
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Not quite that long of a trip but the two CSISD high schools drive to PVille/ Georgetown/ Leander/ RoundRock for districts games
Every game except 1 is about 100 miles each way
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91AggieLawyer said:

The amount of ignorance (and I want to use a stronger word than that, but I won't even though it is applicable) on this thread is staggering. Some of you need to change your handle to something with "Karen" in it.

1. I am hardly a fan of UIL and think some redistricting decisions boggle the mind. But trying to put it into the hands of the legislature is laughable at best and idiotic at worst. It is political enough; why make it more so. Besides, why make it more adversarial? Legislatures are there to represent their district. They're going to advocate for their area as much as they can. If some of them had their way, they'd put a school like Duncanville or Southlake in a 6-man district and still let them play with 11. At least UIL attempts to be somewhat objective. Sure, they fail sometimes but I don't really think they start out with a "let's put x in y (whatever: district, class, etc.)." The lone exception here seems to be Highland Park, who always seems to be on the 5A side of the split. Either they have a source or UIL really is refilling their water.

2. Football, believe it or not, is not the only sport up for consideration. In different classifications, there are football only districts, football and basketball, etc. Competitiveness rarely factors in to any decisions, nor should it. Aledo can't be in a district with Prosper, Allen, Southlake, Duncanville, and North Shore, but that seems to be what OP is suggesting.

3. If Granbury wasn't in district 3, they'd have to either be in district 2 with Odessa, Midland, and San Angelo schools, OR, they'd have to be in district 4 with Southlake and the Kellers schools. OP, which scenario would you prefer? District 5 and 6 are all Denton and Collin County schools (and Jesuit in 6) while 7 is the Planos, Richardsons, and Coppell. 8 is mid-cities schools. Granbury is where they belong.

4. Any private school can play in UIL. However, they have to play in the class where the largest school in their town plays in. For example, if Prestonwood was going to go UIL, they'd be in 6A because of the Plano schools. Same is true with Parish Epis. If either could go 5A, particularly 5AD2, they probably would. But right now, TAPPS has no problem with either. TAPPS told Dallas and Strake Jesuit years ago that they didn't have a spot for them. Now both are entrenched UIL schools, with DJ competing at a high level in soccer, among other things.

5. I don't know what OP is talking about when he says 6A is a "ridiculous" reclassification. From what I see, it is VERY clean. No Euless Trinity having to travel to San Angelo, for example. Granbury is 50 miles to Arlington Lamar HS. I think that's their furthest trip. Granbury has been over 2200 in enrollment for a while and would have made 6A last year but the cutoff number was higher than it was this year. Overall state enrollment is declining with some larger schools from last time dropping. Granbury got larger, so they move up. Its neither ridiculous nor the least bit controversial. If they're unable to compete, well, that's too bad. Join one of hundreds of clubs.

6. Finally, UIL has a hell of a lot of problems. Just getting into a few, they refuse to get too deep into recruiting, they allow district committees to play politics with rule violations, they let schools skirt rules (both playing rules and administrative) all the time. However, reclassification, while nowhere near perfect, isn't one of their problems. The OP not liking his district isn't proof of anything other than a case of "you need to get over that," and fast.

So you contend that the Crowleys, Boswell, Carroll, and the Northwest schools should not be with Granbury, Weatherford, and Aledo?

I have been gone from Texas about 9 years - so the private school thing with playing in largest district other schools in your area compete in I did not know about. Thank you.
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UIL Redistricting has always been stupid. My high school Baseball team in Klein ISD had freaking Lufkin in our district. Nothing will fix it
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I can't think of a better way to "fix" UIL redistricting than to put it in the hands of the Legislature, so Democrats can stage a walk-out and sue over racial discrimination in athletics competition boundaries.
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TheEternalOptimist said:

I saw my alma mater along with the other 4 6A schools in Arlington got put with freaking Aledo, Weatherford, and Granbury who all moved up to 6A.

Aledo to Arlington = 33 miles
Aledo to Southlake = 44 miles
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