Da Chicago Bears stick it to Chicago and Illinois

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itsyourboypookie said:

Indiana joins Texas, New York, PA, Florida, Ohio, and Cali as the only states with multiple NFL teams


New Jersey, not New York. Bills are only team to play in state of New York
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TxAggieBand85 said:

itsyourboypookie said:

Indiana joins Texas, New York, PA, Florida, Ohio, and Cali as the only states with multiple NFL teams


New Jersey, not New York. Bills are only team to play in state of New York

I know the Giants play in NJ. Where do the Jets play?
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Windy City Ag said:

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isn't there a south shore line that goes thru Hammond?


Yes, but it is on a whole other rail system that would require anyone from the Western or Northern Burbs to get off at Ogilvie or Union Station and walk or uber several miles to the Millennium Park Station so they can ride another 30 minutes south of town.


How has nobody "Username checks out" this by now?
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Let's be honest with it all, Illinois, and the City of Chicago aren't in great financial shape, look no further than the property tax hikes in Chicago earlier this year…however, I do agree owners need to foot a larger percentage of the bill of a new stadium…you want a new stadium, fine, but you are picking up more of the cost…the Govenor and the Mayor need to pay for this politically, if for no other reason they don't run the state economically responsible.
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Windy City Ag said:

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isn't there a south shore line that goes thru Hammond?


Yes, but it is on a whole other rail system that would require anyone from the Western or Northern Burbs to get off at Ogilvie or Union Station and walk or uber several miles to the Millennium Park Station so they can ride another 30 minutes south of town.

Chicago and Illinois will be happy to correct it with that wonderful plan the mayor spoke of if they care about the Bears.

Seeing the market and politics play out in real life is extremely fun. BTW, I am sure the taxes collected in IL now for the stadium etc., will be reversed......
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Windy City Ag said:

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You seem bitter

I actually get it. Bears are for profit and they made the optimal choice here.

You have to be a bit sad though because Soldier Field on a crisp Autumn morning with the harbor bristling with sailboats and Lake Michigan glistening in the background was truly a beautiful place. The Green Bay game was always so much fun with Pack fans riding the train in and tailgating ruthlessly.

A lot of that goes away with this development, but that is how things work.

I wish the Cowboys played somewhere else than Jerryworld as well. Driving to Arlington in traffic, paying $12 bucks for a small lite beer, and then sitting in a cramped seat watching crap football is a major comedown from my early childhood. That doesn't mean Jerry Jones wasn't a shrewd guy to maximize his potential take from the franchise.


When you elect a bunch of Dems for decades, you start to lower your expectations.

Like, for example, the amount of poop that is acceptable on the sidewalk.
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Chicago is out? Chicago is out??
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Principal Uncertainty said:

Windy City Ag said:

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isn't there a south shore line that goes thru Hammond?


Yes, but it is on a whole other rail system that would require anyone from the Western or Northern Burbs to get off at Ogilvie or Union Station and walk or uber several miles to the Millennium Park Station so they can ride another 30 minutes south of town.


How has nobody "Username checks out" this by now?

There are many "windy" cites. I will show myself out.
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aggiehawg said:

TxAggieBand85 said:

itsyourboypookie said:

Indiana joins Texas, New York, PA, Florida, Ohio, and Cali as the only states with multiple NFL teams


New Jersey, not New York. Bills are only team to play in state of New York

I know the Giants play in NJ. Where do the Jets play?

Same stadium.
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Thanks.
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King Koda said:

You won't see the players complaining. They get to keep 5% more of their money each home game.

Excellent point. The hits just keep coming.

I guess the taxpayers of Illinois will be paying for this as a new tax will be created to pay for this. Sorry Windy City Ag
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Interesting. Does Indiana have a state income tax and will they now get to tax the income from the players who play every Sunday?
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Brandon Johnson will be begging for state bailouts just like mom Donnie
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Kansas Kid said:

The taxpayers of Indiana are big losers in this. They are giving away over $1b of taxpayer money to get Da Bears to move over the border.

https://indianacapitalchronicle.com/2026/06/01/northwest-indiana-leaders-believe-chances-improved-for-landing-new-bears-stadium/


You are right. The people of Chicago did not want to give a private business any money. They are more conservative than most fake conservatives who want to use public money to bribe private companies.
Good for you, Chicago. The Hammond Bears have to deal with the crime and stink of the armpit of Lake Michigan.

What if the Chicago Bears decided to go to Tampa, FL? Could they still call themselves the Chicago Bears just for fun?
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YouBet said:

Windy City Ag said:

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So will Indiana charge its visitors with a stadium tax to pay for a Chicago team?


The Billion Plus in incentives just to get the stadium built will be paid for by construction bonds, a 1% food and beverage tax hike in Lake and Porter counties, a 5% Lake County hotel tax, and a 12% stadium admissions tax.

So the locals get a tax hike and the rest is paid for by the fans and the citizens of Indiana.


Locals get to pay more for food to get a NFL franchise. What a deal! Guess they voted for it though?

More like the politicians that want to enjoy saying they brought the the team to the state and will sit in the owners box for free voted for it like every other pro sports facility paid for by taxpayers.
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Phatbob said:

I am so disappointed. I wanted them to move to Gary and be the Gare Bears so bad.

They'll have to settle for Hammy Bears.
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aggiehawg said:

Thanks.

Insert Google joke here.
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I really hope this is true. Chicago is a pretty cool town, but they have had ****ed up leadership for over 90 years.

And the guy they have in his mayor now is just an absolute moron racist, economically illiterate idiot. I really thought they could not do worse than Lightfoot, but this dumbass said hold my beer.

I'm sure he'll blame racism for this decision.
And Trump.
I don’t get enough credit for the things I manage not to say.
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Burdizzo said:

Pro sports teams should pay for their own stadiums and should not rely on government incentives, regardless of elected official party leadership

Agreed, no taxpayer money should be used. If the owner doesn't have the coins, sell ownership shares in the team.
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one safe place said:

Burdizzo said:

Pro sports teams should pay for their own stadiums and should not rely on government incentives, regardless of elected official party leadership

Agreed, no taxpayer money should be used. If the owner doesn't have the coins, sell ownership shares in the team.


The Supreme Court sticks their nose into everything, can't they make a judgement to say public money cannot be used for private companies?
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Im Gipper
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I'm Gipper
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itsyourboypookie said:

Indiana joins Texas, New York, PA, Florida, Ohio, and Cali as the only states with multiple NFL teams


Change York to Jersey and add Maryland.
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BMX Bandit said:

itsyourboypookie said:

Indiana joins Texas, New York, PA, Florida, Ohio, and Cali as the only states with multiple NFL teams


Change York to Jersey and add Maryland.

FWIW - they've lost the Redskins too.
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All chicago can do now is sit back, and look at the wasteland they've created through mismanagement, and abuse.

The Bears are going to move on, and be just fine.
BMX Bandit
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that's right! Forgot they were moving back to the rfk spot. Gorgeous design
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Pro sports team should never get taxpayer monies, ever!!!!
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YouBet said:

flown-the-coop said:

That from fake news Bloomberg.com which is paywalled.

Nothing is legit until Walter Bloomberg tweets it.

And where is Hammond, Indiana?

Actually, this has been a story for a while and it's been expected to head this way.

If you look at a map, the site they are choosing is really still in Chicago for all intents and purposes. It sits right on the city border with Indiana.

They just won't have to deal with the idiocy of Chicago anymore.


And the state of illinois.
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This conservative thinks cities and states are smart to provide tax breaks for high profile sports teams. The boost to the local economy should more than offset the incentives.
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Ptehaps not- but maybe cities should strive to

a) not be such pains in the ass.
b) not seek to extort sports franchises
C) not force sports franchises to fund or support politicians pet projects (thinking spurs, austin fc and others)
D) while not financing sports teams, cities should provide pretty hefty tax abatement in exchange for such large development and investment in their city
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So it will be a complete failure, as we are all expecting?
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Windy City Ag said:



Indiana itself is footing a pretty heavy tax forgiveness package to get the deal done.



Lolz
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bonfarr said:

Somebody tell the mayor



I'm sure this move is racist.
Old Gorm
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Ask Oakland how well things work when your sports franchises move out of town along with all the other private businesses run out due to over-regulation, high taxes and government corruption. Took Brooklyn decades to get back to stability after losing the Dodgers and other private sector companies…although Mommydani is doing work to reverse that trend.

Years ago, states in the Sun Belt began a process attracting businesses across all sectors using advantages in tax policy, regulation and incentives. This took place while Democrats began operating under the thrall of the warmth of collectivism, chasing away the private sector and residents alike.

The state of play today? Red states thrive as Democrats attempt to cheat the Census to maintain power lost by their policies and practices.

The Bears are a warning to both Illinois and Chicago: abandon nanny state economic approaches or watch your elite city turn into the next Detroit or Oakland.

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I think Chicago did the right thing. No public taxpayer money to private businesses. All the hypocritical "conservatives" are bending their own rules to make rich people richer.

What good is tax revenues generated by the Bears if it has to be paid back to the Bears as tax breaks?

Any private corp who wants to leave can GTFO.
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