Collins flips on SAVE act

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6:12p, 6/9/26
End the filibuster and pass this act. Vance breaks the tie!

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But Lee's attempt did hit 50 votes, with Collins flipping her vote to support the original version of the SAVE America Act.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trumps-save-america-act-shows-signs-life-senate-despite-republican-revolt
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Im Gipper
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6:15p, 6/9/26
This original posted article is from February.

In the (at least) two votes on this, Collins voted "nay".


Let's get a vote and see if she changes

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6:15p, 6/9/26
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Now Collin's wants to be a conservative with the Nazi looming in Maine! I wonder if there is a chance for cheating by the Dems?
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6:18p, 6/9/26
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Even though it's not a federal election, after the complete crapshow in the LA mayoral race, nobody can say that there isn't cheating going on. What they can do in LA, they can do in federal races throughout California.

If this is accurate, Repbulicans ought to go into session immediately and get this thing approved. Don't give the opposition time to react, just get it passed. It is the most important piece of legislation of the session, and maybe in the past 50 years.
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In reply to Ag87H2O • 6:19p, 6/9/26
Ag87H2O said:
Even though it's not a federal election, after the complete crapshow in the LA mayoral race, nobody can say that there isn't cheating going on. What they can do in LA, they can do in federal races throughout California.

No, you see, they put cardboard over windows and have leaky pipes to SAVE democracy, dontchaknow?!
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In reply to Im Gipper • 7:04p, 6/9/26
Im Gipper said:
This original posted article is from February.

In the (at least) two votes on this, Collins voted "nay".


Let's get a vote and see if she changes



This is a new vote where Collins flipped.


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Trump's voter ID bill hits 50 Senate votes for the first time during late-night vote-a-rama, but the filibuster blocks it from reaching the president's desk. Sen. Mike Lee says VP Vance could serve as the 51st vote to push it through if Republican leadership forces a talking filibuster. Three GOP senators still voted against the modified version, exposing a rift Trump is now exploiting to demand the Senate parliamentarian be fired.







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In reply to Burrus86 • 7:06p, 6/9/26
Burrus86 said:
Now Collin's wants to be a conservative with the Nazi looming in Maine! I wonder if there is a chance for cheating by the Dems?


That thought crossed my mind.
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7:26p, 6/9/26
We probably can't save LA this election cycle, but if the current situation there serves to get the SAVE act passed that's a good trade.
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7:30p, 6/9/26
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If the SAVE ACT passes into law, the riots across the country will make the Summer of Love Riots in 2020/21 will look like a County Fair Carousel.



So, let's get it passed post haste, start enforcing the LAWS around riots, and let nature take its course.
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In reply to Old Sarge • 6:09a, 6/10/26
AG

I read that Sen. Blackburn is also pushing to fire the parliamentarian (or rather to end her role by putting the position subject to term limits), which could be a positive impetus. Really, Thune should threaten to change the rules on the filibuster unless Dems just stop using it for this specific bill. I have zero good things to say about John Thune.

The only real objection to passing this is that it will prevent fraud.
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6:54a, 6/10/26
what Collins voted for is not the version of save America act Trump wants passed.
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In reply to BMX Bandit • 7:04a, 6/10/26
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Ok, what's the difference?
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In reply to nortex97 • 7:19a, 6/10/26
The Lee version did not have the transgender athlete and ban on mutualizing of kids that Trump has insisted being included in the Bill.

Collins has consistently "said" she supports passing the save America act passed by the house. But She has voted against it previously when it is a budgetary add-on item. She has also said she is not going to vote to in the filibuster.

So at the end of the day, Collins can say she supports the save America act all she wants. But until she at least tries to pass it as a budgetary item (which I don't think is proper and wouldn't work) or decides to end the filibuster, it doesn't matter how much Lip service she gives to supporting the clean Bill. It's never going to pass, which she knows.

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In reply to BMX Bandit • 7:19a, 6/10/26
BMX Bandit said:
what Collins voted for is not the version of save America act Trump wants passed.


It's the exact act she's been voting against, Trump's support notwithstanding.
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In reply to Logos Stick • 7:28a, 6/10/26
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BMX Bandit said:
what Collins voted for is not the version of save America act Trump wants passed.


It's the exact act she's been voting against, Trump's support notwithstanding.

when she voted against it, the bill was offered in budget reconciliation. LINK she always said it needs to be its own bill.

but she knows that in order for it to ever actually pass, the filibuster will need to be ended. which she will never vote to do.

so its a way for her to claim she is for it without ever actually doing anything to get it passed
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In reply to BMX Bandit • 8:12a, 6/10/26
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Of course she's playing politics but I don't understand why the child mutilation legislation needs to be attached to this. She's not really being inconsistent in this vote, imho. Graham attempting to attach that amendment was the silly posturing everyone knew would fail (and Trump mouthing off about it is no shocker).
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In reply to Burrus86 • 8:53a, 6/10/26
Burrus86 said:
Now Collin's wants to be a conservative with the Nazi looming in Maine! I wonder if there is a chance for cheating by the Dems?

She's especially not going to do it now. She has to appeal to the moderate dems in that cesspool of a state or she can't win.
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9:22a
Reconciliation 3.0 will include the save America act. What will Collins do?


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9:34a
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McConnell won't vote for this no matter what even if clean. Total brain dead traitor at this point.
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In reply to YouBet • 2:34p
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YouBet said:
McConnell won't vote for this no matter what even if clean. Total brain dead traitor at this point.

It's not McConnell. He is being controlled. Not sure how to resolve that.
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In reply to boulderaggie • 2:35p
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boulderaggie said:
YouBet said:
McConnell won't vote for this no matter what even if clean. Total brain dead traitor at this point.

It's not McConnell. He is being controlled. Not sure how to resolve that.


Well, he's had more than one stroke on live tv so he's cognitively compromised at a minimum.
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In reply to boulderaggie • 2:38p
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It's not McConnell. He is being controlled. Not sure how to resolve that.

Sorry, not buying that excuse making.

McConnell hates Trump with a passion. "Not him, he isn't in control" is a weak excuse.

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In reply to BMX Bandit • 2:39p
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What will Collins do?

I think you already know.

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In reply to Im Gipper • 2:42p
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Im Gipper said:
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It's not McConnell. He is being controlled. Not sure how to resolve that.

Sorry, not buying that excuse making.

McConnell hates Trump with a passion. "Not him, he isn't in control" is a weak excuse.


Yep, now that he's on his way out he's openly expressed his happiness about f'ing Trump over without having to worry about backlash.

He's a POS and letting his TDS overrule his stroked out brain.
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In reply to Im Gipper • 2:46p
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I disagree without insult. Robert Karem is McConnell's Jill Biden.
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