So...I just unified Quantum Mechanics and General Relativity.

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so question as it relates to black holes under this theory: why are things pulled towards it's gravity then if time stops/information stops/no expansion or growth/etc.?

And if the theory is correct, would black holes not be technically covered by items that are "stopped" at it's event horizon? not just light, but physical objects just sitting on the edge, that can be seen visually? For instance, as many satellites as we put into orbit, obviously not today or tomorrow, but if you perpetually keep putting satellites into orbit (assuming they don't fall back in or leave orbit), wouldn't the outside of our planet be "covered" in orbiting satellites?
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I don't know about that, but black holes feel like a good place where it seems like things happening might be different than how we think of them now. It seems like near a black hole the speed of light itself is approaching zero near the event horizon, unless Ive misunderstood the implications. I've been trying and failing to think about how or even if observations near event horizons would be different vs GR and it just makes brain hurt. It
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JJxvi said:

I don't know about that, but black holes feel like a good place where it seems like things happening might be different than how we think of them now. It seems like near a black hole the speed of light itself is approaching zero near the event horizon, unless Ive misunderstood the implications. I've been trying and failing to think about how or even if observations near event horizons would be different vs GR and it just makes brain hurt. It


Makes sense. The only way you wouldn't be able to see light over billions of years is if it stopped or was destroyed.
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Well shoot. You're right. I did have a circular check in here. I really thought I had my grounds covered, but had something really sneaky in my python code. Going to pull it and think on this some more
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RikkiTikkaTagem said:

JJxvi said:

I don't know about that, but black holes feel like a good place where it seems like things happening might be different than how we think of them now. It seems like near a black hole the speed of light itself is approaching zero near the event horizon, unless Ive misunderstood the implications. I've been trying and failing to think about how or even if observations near event horizons would be different vs GR and it just makes brain hurt. It


Makes sense. The only way you wouldn't be able to see light over billions of years is if it stopped or was destroyed.


Well maybe he's on to something. Think about the ring of light around the black hole. If in fact it does hit a barrier and is not "pulled in", that explains how the ring of light exists around the black hole. It's the culmination of millions, billions, or even trillions of individual light particles that have been aimed toward it over its existence, that eventually come to rest at their grave; the ring around the hole.

Maybe that's common knowledge but I just now wrapped my head around it. Ignore my rambling, please continue!
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Philip J Fry said:

Yup. Totally abstract. A particle of nothing but potential. Where mass, light, and space come from are the constraint terms. I'll say these are a little magical, but depending on the constraint matrix, you'll get a photon or an electron. At least, this is how far I've gotten so far. I'm on my last section of my white paper. Then I can talk more freely


This sounds like another fundamental building block that we know of; an atom. Individually, the atom is abstract (is it not?), but has potential. Put it with others, in a rigid structure or loose (obviously based on their alignments with one another), you could construct totally different structures. If that's the fundamental building block & structure of matter, why can't the universe follow the same process?

I'm a finance bro way out of my depth, but I love that this thread is tickling the part of my brain that I thought died away many years ago.
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The first time you mentioned talking to Claude I thought you meant the texags poster. I was like "wow, 2 super nerds on texags are about to change the world"
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Philip J Fry said:

For Searth=.128

I did this a few ways and can definitely be more clear in the write up. I picked two data points. JWST and Plank. Assume H is proportional to c(S)

C(JWST)=70
C(Plank)=67.4

70/67.4 gives 1.0385

Set e^(-Sjwst)(1-Sjwst)/e^(-Splank)(1-Plank)=1.0385

Here you do some numerical sweeps until you find values that work.

Sjwst=.098
splank=.157

Take the average of those two and get .128

Take .128 and back solve for the vmax and you get 390k km/s. Use that to get our other 3 telescope data and check to see how they fell out.

Bombastic? Abso****inglutly. Show me another framework where we can entangle information, generate a massless photon like particle, propagate it and solve the Hubble drift within .01. Oh, and then have SR fall out of our quantum math while falsifying other grows laws to validate its non circular. I was very concerned that I was playing math tricks so I was doing everything I could to make sure I was being honest. That's why I went to time dilation. If it was a true solution, the growth law would have to work for both the bubble drift and the Lorentz transform. My exponential worked exactly. None of the other methods did however. If you can think of something else I could do, I'd like to hear it.

NGC-1400 would be a good test

Ib3. Here's my annoyance. I actually don't want to do this. I don't like being the center of attention, but also feel like this is important enough to share. A bit of a rock and a hard place until something gives


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Any update on this Fry?
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Every time I start to believe that I actually am smart, I run into one of you people and end up feeling like the guy who tests Travolta in Phenomenon.
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I moved some very big rocks in my yard a few weeks ago by myself and without heavy equipment...400+ lbs each. I felt quite smart. I hope to make it to the level of this thread one day. Currently I am about 5000 years behind hanging out with the Ancient Egyptians.
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Nah, the ancient Egyptians would've stacked the rocks oriented in the 4 directions with greater accuracy than the average civil engineer of today. They were way ahead.
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Does this article help or hurt in any way?

I would provide context and not just a link but I have nothing to offer other than the link description below.

Big Bang theory is wrong, claim scientists
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There's a bunch of stuff in there that raise questions, and I'm not a trained physicist, but for me the kicker is "We are a continuation of a cosmic cycle." Well, shouldn't the obvious follow-up question be "what kicked off that cycle in the first place?"
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Headline: Big Bang theory is wrong, claim scientists

Content: An "international team of physicists" described their theory of how the Big Bang happened (ie "Matter within the black hole was crunched down before huge amounts of stored energy caused it to bounce back like a compressed spring, creating our universe.")

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redline248 said:

There's a bunch of stuff in there that raise questions, and I'm not a trained physicist, but for me the kicker is "We are a continuation of a cosmic cycle." Well, shouldn't the obvious follow-up question be "what kicked off that cycle in the first place?"
"Let there be light."
-God
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Right, which lines up a lot better with the Big Bang than the black hole yo-yo in that article.
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NPH- said:

redline248 said:

There's a bunch of stuff in there that raise questions, and I'm not a trained physicist, but for me the kicker is "We are a continuation of a cosmic cycle." Well, shouldn't the obvious follow-up question be "what kicked off that cycle in the first place?"
"Let there be light."
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HossAg said:

NPH- said:

redline248 said:

There's a bunch of stuff in there that raise questions, and I'm not a trained physicist, but for me the kicker is "We are a continuation of a cosmic cycle." Well, shouldn't the obvious follow-up question be "what kicked off that cycle in the first place?"
"Let there be light."
-God
Take it to the R&P board


You don't think that is on topic? You don't think even God needs building blocks or a framework to make things happen? I'm not saying he does directly in the conventional sense, but like any great builder, artist or maker of things, basic building blocks and a plan have built a lot of wonderful things in our world. Why does science have to be the denial of godly intervention? I've always said, because the universe is so precise and so intricate, to me it is a confirmation of devine intervention.
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NPH- said:

HossAg said:

NPH- said:

redline248 said:

There's a bunch of stuff in there that raise questions, and I'm not a trained physicist, but for me the kicker is "We are a continuation of a cosmic cycle." Well, shouldn't the obvious follow-up question be "what kicked off that cycle in the first place?"
"Let there be light."
-God
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You don't think that is on topic? You don't think even God needs building blocks or a framework to make things happen? I'm not saying he does directly in the conventional sense, but like any great builder, artist or maker of things, basic building blocks and a plan have built a lot of wonderful things in our world. Why does science have to be the denial of godly intervention? I've always said, because the universe is so precise and so intricate, to me it is a confirmation of devine intervention.
agree

Albert Einstein himself stated "I'm not an atheist, and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist ... I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings".
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NPH- said:

HossAg said:

NPH- said:

redline248 said:

There's a bunch of stuff in there that raise questions, and I'm not a trained physicist, but for me the kicker is "We are a continuation of a cosmic cycle." Well, shouldn't the obvious follow-up question be "what kicked off that cycle in the first place?"
"Let there be light."
-God
Take it to the R&P board


You don't think that is on topic? You don't think even God needs building blocks or a framework to make things happen? I'm not saying he does directly in the conventional sense, but like any great builder, artist or maker of things, basic building blocks and a plan have built a lot of wonderful things in our world. Why does science have to be the denial of godly intervention? I've always said, because the universe is so precise and so intricate, to me it is a confirmation of devine intervention.
Because the arguments inherently don't agree with each other based on the book of genesis. Any attempt to fit them together is, ultimately, just mental gymnastics. But I'm not gonna get into that discussion here, so that's my last post on the subject.

Staff should probably just delete all of these for derailing.
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Looking forward to updating this thread. I'll say the last 2 weeks was a ****ing kick in the nuts. I was pretty convinced that I would never get out of circular hell. A big nonzero percent of me didn't find the circularism because I allowed myself to get too excited and did not pick up on the fact that I'd hard coded some variables early on. So when the hard coded exponential results were compared to itself, of course it fit. Really troubled me that I make a mistake like that and didn't catch until I went public. That said, I went public because I want eyes other than mine checking my *****

A couple nights ago, I found a path and it appears to work and I'm a little stunned.

I'm going to stew on it a bit more though and make sure I'm not jumping the gun. I will say though that writing Python code to get 2 separate AIs to talk to each other was quite a journey. Having them talk to each other in their own language was entertaining too. Give me another week or so and I'll wrap this whole thing up. At least the red shift part.
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HossAg said:

NPH- said:

HossAg said:

NPH- said:

redline248 said:

There's a bunch of stuff in there that raise questions, and I'm not a trained physicist, but for me the kicker is "We are a continuation of a cosmic cycle." Well, shouldn't the obvious follow-up question be "what kicked off that cycle in the first place?"
"Let there be light."
-God
Take it to the R&P board


You don't think that is on topic? You don't think even God needs building blocks or a framework to make things happen? I'm not saying he does directly in the conventional sense, but like any great builder, artist or maker of things, basic building blocks and a plan have built a lot of wonderful things in our world. Why does science have to be the denial of godly intervention? I've always said, because the universe is so precise and so intricate, to me it is a confirmation of devine intervention.
Because the arguments inherently don't agree with each other based on the book of genesis. Any attempt to fit them together is, ultimately, just mental gymnastics. But I'm not gonna get into that discussion here, so that's my last post on the subject.

Staff should probably just delete all of these for derailing.
That assumes you take the Book of Genesis at face value (i.e. 7 days being literally 7 days as we know it, when in all actuality a day as described in the book could actually be a period of time; millions if not billions of years summarized as a "day").
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Philip J Fry said:

Looking forward to updating this thread. I'll say the last 2 weeks was a ****ing kick in the nuts. I was pretty convinced that I would never get out of circular hell. A big nonzero percent of me didn't find the circularism because I allowed myself to get too excited and did not pick up on the fact that I'd hard coded some variables early on. So when the hard coded exponential results were compared to itself, of course it fit. Really troubled me that I make a mistake like that and didn't catch until I went public. That said, I went public because I want eyes other than mine checking my *****

A couple nights ago, I found a path and it appears to work and I'm a little stunned.

I'm going to stew on it a bit more though and make sure I'm not jumping the gun. I will say though that writing Python code to get 2 separate AIs to talk to each other was quite a journey. Having them talk to each other in their own language was entertaining too. Give me another week or so and I'll wrap this whole thing up. At least the red shift part.
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Any update?
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I was also wondering about this... there is a topic on the politics board of JWST finding galaxies that appear to have formed way earlier than previously thought to be possible. Curious what the model would say (assuming the 2 things are related)
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I have no idea what's going on in this thread, but it sure fits the Nerdery!
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Quote:

I am a true idiot.


You've made that pretty obvious. The rest of us are laughing at you.

If you simply plug 2+2=4 into your equations this will all shake out.
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So I've been sitting on this paper for a few weeks now. Wanted to stew over these results for a while. Honestly, at this point I can't tell if this is an elaborate larp by ChatGPT/Claude or what. It's definitely a bizarre feeling trying to become an expert on a theory that isn't really fleshed outeven to the point where you don't fully understand parts of it yourself.

That said, 80% of what I said has held true since that original speed of light paper release. Where I went wrong was circular reasoning for the growth law, where I was trying to falsify each law based on the Lorentz equation. Anyway, putting that behind me and moving on.

I did a couple things back in June. First, I realized that I was incorrectly thinking of entanglement in terms of localitythat Earth was in its own entanglement field and had our own local speed of light. But that's not really what's happening when we look at this telescope data.
Assuming S Theory is right and the speed of light is a function of the entanglement level, we are seeing a historical record of the speed of light over time. I had Claude look up 20 random galaxies spanning from z = 1 to z = 14. I used the lookback time to normalize them all to my definition of entropic time (t_normal=temit/t_total). That is, t = 0 is the Big Bang and t = 13.8 billion years is today.

When I do that, I get this graph when I assume redshift is from varying speed of light. That was cool. Didn't know what it meant, but when I curve fit it I got a power law with an R2 value of 0.994, which is surprisingly tight. It also gives me some nice falsifiable evidence. If it's right, as we keep looking back further in time, we'll see more red shift. Curious to see what it looks like as we look deeper and deeper whether this power law holds.



The first thing I looked into was how long it would take to see a measurable difference in the speed of light. Where we are in the SOL curve suggests with would take something like 3 million years before we can detect it. So come back in 3 million years and we'll see if I was right.

Then I thought back to my photon propagation simulation where the photon changed speeds in varying S_{ij} fields. Seems obvious to me now that dS/dt is the normalized speed of light. At the time of the very first white paper, I'd written it as eta*smax, not really considering the option that the speed of light might change over time.

Anyway, if I take the integral of this speed-of-light curve, I get the cumulative S over the entire history of the universe, and that lets me calculate current S based on measured data. That puts S_{ij} = 0.218 at t = 1. Again, wasn't sure what to do with this, but it felt a lot more pure mathematically than what I was doing before.

Next, I started thinking about the growth law. If S Theory is to be a unifying theory, it needs to work with quantum mechanics and black holes. I spent a little time tinkering with Schwarzschild's equations and determined that the (1 - S_{ij}) term really should be (1 - S_{ij})^2 to get the curvature leading up to the event horizon correct. That brought me to:

dS/dt=eta*(1-S)^2

So what's eta? The normalized speed of light curve is clearly a power law, so I decided eta must be of the form S_{ij}^{-\beta} for it to work. Okay, so what's beta? Well, based on combinatorics in the early universe and the probability of stable triangles forming, it forced beta = 2.

Also decided I needed some scaling factor. I called it alpha, and the growth law became:

dS/dt=alpha*S^(-2)*(1-S)^2

Now, I take all this telescope data and plug it into my photon SEM model. First, I place nodes at each of the galaxies and space them out according to their distance, calculated based on the normalized speed of light. I inject photon SEMs on a time delay at each of the galaxies and let them propagate toward Earth, and allow the growth law to run. Entanglement increases over time while light is propagating towards earth. There's a bend to it and all the sources arrive precisely when they mean to.



The one free parameter I have at this point is alpha. The best results I got came from alpha = 0.00447, so I just rounded it to 0.005 and set it as the official growth law. This ordinary differential equation predicts distant galaxy redshifts within 5% and does so without dark energy or expansion. Alpha=.005 must have some physical meaning, but I haven't found it yet. Chatgpt thinks it has something to do with the number of available SEM configurations. I have my doubts and have set it aside for now and am just shrugging my shoulders.

Annoyingly, closer galaxies don't line up quite as well from a raw percentage standpoint, but I suspect that has to do with their actual velocities coming into play....that and I'm dividing by a small number already.

I kept some of the data I pulled from this training set and used it as a check after setting alpha = 0.005. Here are the results. I don't know. Maybe it's just elegant curve fitting.



Right now, I have 24 data sets. In the future, I plan to expand this to several thousand if I find the free time. I think that would be telling as well.

Here's where it gets a little interesting. Now that I have this growth law, I can go back and calculate when the cosmic microwave background happened based on the first acoustic peak. I'm showing that happened around 13k years after the Big Bang. Initially, I said "WTF, it should be 380k after the Big Bang. This is garbage."

Part of me dragging my feet on this paper has been trying to get Big Bang nucleosynthesis and the acoustic peaks right. If I assume T_yr=31,500K that also lines up with 13Kyr. None of this seemed right until I went and calculated what a fast speed of light during this timeline meant, and I showed that within this 13k years, 340 million years of local time passed. So galaxies had 340 million years to form compared to CDM's 380k years. If S Theory is to be believed, this explains why we are seeing galaxies when we shouldn't.

I'm a long way away from that though, since I have to deal with some of the thermodynamics of BBN more formally than I have been. In order to even start that, I need to be able to calculate units of stuff. At this point, I decided I needed an anchor for my growth law and set present-day speed of light = dS/dt @ S = 0.218. This allows me to calculate length from how long it takes for my photon to travel from one point to the next. Gives me energy in Joules, and based on energy, lets me calculate massall in SI units. That's pretty cool I guess.

Next up: WTF do I do about electrical properties? I decided that the fundamental unit of charge comes from the electron, so I need to find the first SEM that gives me the right spin, mass, and quantized charge of an electron. Turns out, my electron is a 23-node SEM, and all of a sudden I can calculate electrical units. Assuming of course, it is an electron.

From here, I can get Maxwell's equations, and just for the fun of it, I can show Lorentz invariants.

Again, I'm not even convinced of all this. I don't personally like that the electron takes 23 nodes to show up, and I'm not sure I can articulate why. What I think needs to happen is for the constraints that produce these particles to somehow be eigenstates of the entanglement field. Like in real life, all ~10^80 electrons in the universe are exactly the same, so there must be some entanglement state that stabilizes at that exact configuration and does it every time. Quite the interesting problem right there. The constraint matrix I have just feels too complicated to be right. Too many miracles would have to happen to get this exact constraint combination:



Next up on my list: I gotta get my quantum zoo sorted. And part of this is solving the higgs field. I believe I have the higgs field already accounted for in my lagrangian. It appears part of the asymmetric constraint equation that's responsible for mass. If I can show that eigenstates result in known particles, then I'll dust off the mantel for my future Nobel Prize. That's certainly not going to happen over night. Until then, I'll keep plugging along on my free time. . I'll post the latest paper revision shortly.
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