Thanks for all the prayers.
Lord have mercy.

SpreadsheetAg said:

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For this wondering what the surge looked like; this was from downstream from Kerrville later that morning (apparently).... huge rush of water:

The water doesn't rise slowly, you get hit with a surge. This is what the surge looked like downstream from Kerrville, in Center Point, as it arrived yesterday afternoon. https://t.co/tBLmKZlxiv

— Ann Richards' Hair (@AnnRichardsHair) July 5, 2025

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Thanks for sharing, that's incredible and scary

And in the dead of night.

It would be chaotic enough in the middle of the day.

I don't know how there could be a worse scenario than this.

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Gmanoutdoors said:

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Some information from my wife who is directly in contact with some Mystic staff and was once office staff:

She says that the map is relatively correct. Twins I, Twins II, and Bubble Inn are the highest elevation cabins along with Giggle Box and Wiggle Inn on the portion of the campground called the "Flats." They are next to the central office intentionally, and at the same elevations, such that those buildings are the last to need evacuation.

The elevation of the aforementioned cabins, the Office, and the Rec Hall are all 30-35 feet above the normal water level. There is no precedent, even in the '87 flood, for water to come up to the level of the Office/Bubble Inn/Twins. She found from a friend that the plan was likely to keep those campers in place while lower elevation cabins successfully evacuated to the Rec Hall (as evidenced by the photo of the older campers walking in the rain towards the Rec Hall). The waters then rose far beyond what was ever planned for and there was no more time to evacuate the three youngest cabins. Allegedly Dick drove his truck through the floodwaters to try and reach them once they realized it was cresting the hill they are situated on. Then the flood wave came. Even though they are limestone structures, someone told her an entire cabin, Twins or Bubble, may have been washed away with campers inside. For that to happen, the flood waters have to have been 35+ feet above normal. A truly unprecedented situation.

There is still no official word on Dick Eastland being alive. Everyone she is in contact with is tight-lipped. She hypothesizes they are waiting to find the missing girls before drawing attention to the loss of one of the camp directors.

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Thanks for the update. Does the camp have 24/7 staff or folks on night shift?

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Yes. There is a night shift guard who is on the clock until 6am and would have been able to notify the main office of the emergency. At 2am they were already evacuating lower-elevation cabins containing the 10-13 year old age groups before the flooding had started. The flood wave happened at 4am.

Right. I think that's a key thing here is that these weren't slow rising waters. This was a wave.

Makes planning basically impossible.

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Pics and names of girls still missing. I don't know if this is everyone but it shows who were still praying for.

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[deleting this list of names as it is not the most updated info, July 7th]

Per the just completed press conference, missing count from Mystic is 27.

Gmanoutdoors said:

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Some information from my wife who is directly in contact with some Mystic staff and was once office staff:

She says that the map is relatively correct. Twins I, Twins II, and Bubble Inn are the highest elevation cabins along with Giggle Box and Wiggle Inn on the portion of the campground called the "Flats." They are next to the central office intentionally, and at the same elevations, such that those buildings are the last to need evacuation.

The elevation of the aforementioned cabins, the Office, and the Rec Hall are all 30-35 feet above the normal water level. There is no precedent, even in the '87 flood, for water to come up to the level of the Office/Bubble Inn/Twins. She found from a friend that the plan was likely to keep those campers in place while lower elevation cabins successfully evacuated to the Rec Hall (as evidenced by the photo of the older campers walking in the rain towards the Rec Hall). The waters then rose far beyond what was ever planned for and there was no more time to evacuate the three youngest cabins. Allegedly Dick drove his truck through the floodwaters to try and reach them once they realized it was cresting the hill they are situated on. Then the flood wave came. Even though they are limestone structures, someone told her an entire cabin, Twins or Bubble, may have been washed away with campers inside. For that to happen, the flood waters have to have been 35+ feet above normal. A truly unprecedented situation.

There is still no official word on Dick Eastland being alive. Everyone she is in contact with is tight-lipped. She hypothesizes they are waiting to find the missing girls before drawing attention to the loss of one of the camp directors.

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To further clarify. The Rec hall is at roughly the same elevation as the cabins that have girls missing. However it is a 2 story building, which makes it the site for evacuation. My wife says it's a major blessing that the hall did not fall down or wash away as this would've been catastrophic. Water got well into first floor of the rec hall. There is a creek that divides this part of camp from the main road and the higher banks of the river. This severely handicapped the ability for anyone to reach safer, higher ground. "I have to re-emphasize that a flood of this magnitude and height is unprecedented and unbelievable. Three stories worth of safety was between the river and the camp's main evacuation zone. It's unfathomable." - direct quote from my wife

Feel like people always underestimate how quickly Fast Floods happen. You don't have notice. I've done SAR work in CO and NM and seen them. Lost my gear and campsite in 2008 to one in Estes Park one time

Gmanoutdoors said:

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Gmanoutdoors said:

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Some information from my wife who is directly in contact with some Mystic staff and was once office staff:

She says that the map is relatively correct. Twins I, Twins II, and Bubble Inn are the highest elevation cabins along with Giggle Box and Wiggle Inn on the portion of the campground called the "Flats." They are next to the central office intentionally, and at the same elevations, such that those buildings are the last to need evacuation.

The elevation of the aforementioned cabins, the Office, and the Rec Hall are all 30-35 feet above the normal water level. There is no precedent, even in the '87 flood, for water to come up to the level of the Office/Bubble Inn/Twins. She found from a friend that the plan was likely to keep those campers in place while lower elevation cabins successfully evacuated to the Rec Hall (as evidenced by the photo of the older campers walking in the rain towards the Rec Hall). The waters then rose far beyond what was ever planned for and there was no more time to evacuate the three youngest cabins. Allegedly Dick drove his truck through the floodwaters to try and reach them once they realized it was cresting the hill they are situated on. Then the flood wave came. Even though they are limestone structures, someone told her an entire cabin, Twins or Bubble, may have been washed away with campers inside. For that to happen, the flood waters have to have been 35+ feet above normal. A truly unprecedented situation.

There is still no official word on Dick Eastland being alive. Everyone she is in contact with is tight-lipped. She hypothesizes they are waiting to find the missing girls before drawing attention to the loss of one of the camp directors.

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To further clarify. The Rec hall is at roughly the same elevation as the cabins that have girls missing. However it is a 2 story building, which makes it the site for evacuation. My wife says it's a major blessing that the hall did not fall down or wash away as this would've been catastrophic. Water got well into first floor of the rec hall. There is a creek that divides this part of camp from the main road and the higher banks of the river. This severely handicapped the ability for anyone to reach safer, higher ground. "I have to re-emphasize that a flood of this magnitude and height is unprecedented and unbelievable. Three stories worth of safety was between the river and the camp's main evacuation zone. It's unfathomable." - direct quote from my wife

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Thanks for taking the time to clarify.

This is so horrible.

Thanks. Thats makes more sense. So Awful.

I don't know what to say but my heart is breaking for all involved. I'll be praying. We have an 8 year daughter and these pictures are hitting incredibly hard. Love to all.

We have been talking here about at these river camps, the need for a giant tower built out of large 8-10" "square tubing and anchored into the rock with some sort of structure built for evacuation scenarios 50 feet above elevation, but considering Camp Mystic was there almost 100 years and never seen this level of flood, it is hard to blame anyone there. It was unprecedented level of flooding, and such a freak event with that much rain in one spot in that short amount of time period.

Woke up this morning and prayed for the missing and families.
Then I came to check this thread. Heartbreaking.

God of miracles, we believe in you no matter what. In times of sorrow, you are our God. Comfort those families in need. Bring home to you the souls of those who have died. Jesus, we believe. Even in our suffering you are good. Amen.

Thanks to everyone posting info and praying. My college roommate's daughter was evacuated from Senor Hill last night via helicopter (Mystic). He and his wife were able to talk to their daughter yesterday evening.

One of my daughters classmates is missing. Absolutely terrible.

Was able to speak with my buddy briefly…

They were out on the 60 most of the day and into the night yesterday…

Cycled off late last night for another crew…

He will be deploying toward Burnet in a little bit (they are expecting more issues east today toward the I-35 corridor…combo of rivers moving their flows that way plus apparently more rain around the corridor between SA and Austin today, and they are staging in Burnet to deploy where needed later today)…

Please don't take anything I said to imply TTF1 is halting "rescue" ops in the Kerrville area…he did not say that at all (they operate multiple crews, and the 60 he was in yesterday is still assigned to Kerr Country as of this morning)…there are multiple helo's operating with the TTFs…he merely said his particular crew was re-deploying toward Burnet to stage for activities more toward the east today, closer to I-35…

No, I did not ask him any details of his activities yesterday…that can be very personal for some, and it's not a boundary I would ever breach…

Oh Derm - praying for Mary Grace and your family.

dermdoc said:

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This is who y'all are praying for.

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This is my daughters classmate derm. We got the email last night from our school. We're all in this with you.

Maroon Saloon said:

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Thanks to everyone posting info and praying. My college roommate's daughter was evacuated from Senor Hill last night via helicopter (Mystic). He and his wife were able to talk to their daughter yesterday evening.

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My niece sent me this, her friend is a counselor in Bubble Inn and is still missing. If I need to delete, please let me know.

Some more clarity on what happened at Mystic

What we know from a flat perspective is that the flooding started to hit but it was the middle of the night. Dick was coming down with Edward in cars trying to get campers to a safer spot either the new camp or somewhere else. He was driving back-and-forth and back-and-forth and two cabins made it to sky high and the rest of the camp made it to the new camp. The campers not accounted for were bubble inn and the twins cabins. Dick was driving to bubble in to get the girls and was loading them in his truck when the truck got swept away. Libby Liuzzi was in a twins cabin and they couldn't open the door and so she smashed the windows and we're sending her girls out to get to safety. I know she's OK and half of her cabin is OK. Half of Harrisson Hall is gone. Some girls on the flats went to cozy with the big three and some girls then went to rec Hall because the flooding was increasing, and as it got higher and higher, they went to the second floor of rec hall and they were with the younger campers and the water would hit them while they were on that second floor because of the waves crashing in from the floods.

I know the girls in cozy were first holding onto the poles because the flood waters were so intense, but then it got to their heads to the point where they weren't gonna be able to breathe so they had to climb to get to the roof. Elizabeth Sweet took off her shirt at some point and made a rope to get Rachel farhiootie onto the roof. The water was over the roof, but they were just clutching onto the roof the whole time. Cars are piled on top of each other. There was an entire pileup of just so many cars. Christiana said that it looked unreal. From the hill, they saw a car that wasby the art hut and one that was by the bridge.

- Meredith Martin, when the flooding hit, went to dick and tweety's house and smashed the window and went and saved Tweety

It's now a recovery mission and no longer a rescue mission. "

Since the name has been posted already I will verify that Virginia Hollis is our local Bellville girl who is still missing. She is one of the sweetest little girls we know. A loving family who have been life long friends to us. Our kids are all the same ages and have known each other their entire life. Our entire town is hurting and praying she is somehow found safe. The last 24 hours have been so difficult. Please God let these girls be found alive.

I don't have any words.

Unspeakable tragedy.

jrrhouston98 said:

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My niece sent me this, her friend is a counselor in Bubble Inn and is still missing. If I need to delete, please let me know.

Some more clarity on what happened at Mystic

What we know from a flat perspective is that the flooding started to hit but it was the middle of the night. Dick was coming down with Edward in cars trying to get campers to a safer spot either the new camp or somewhere else. He was driving back-and-forth and back-and-forth and two cabins made it to sky high and the rest of the camp made it to the new camp. The campers not accounted for were bubble inn and the twins cabins. Dick was driving to bubble in to get the girls and was loading them in his truck when the truck got swept away. Libby Liuzzi was in a twins cabin and they couldn't open the door and so she smashed the windows and we're sending her girls out to get to safety. I know she's OK and half of her cabin is OK. Half of Harrisson Hall is gone. Some girls on the flats went to cozy with the big three and some girls then went to rec Hall because the flooding was increasing, and as it got higher and higher, they went to the second floor of rec hall and they were with the younger campers and the water would hit them while they were on that second floor because of the waves crashing in from the floods.

I know the girls in cozy were first holding onto the poles because the flood waters were so intense, but then it got to their heads to the point where they weren't gonna be able to breathe so they had to climb to get to the roof. Elizabeth Sweet took off her shirt at some point and made a rope to get Rachel farhiootie onto the roof. The water was over the roof, but they were just clutching onto the roof the whole time. Cars are piled on top of each other. There was an entire pileup of just so many cars. Christiana said that it looked unreal. From the hill, they saw a car that wasby the art hut and one that was by the bridge.

- Meredith Martin, when the flooding hit, went to dick and tweety's house and smashed the window and went and saved Tweety

It's now a recovery mission and no longer a rescue mission. "

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Ughhh

Prayers and sadness to all affected
My heart hurts so bad

Lord bless those for your glory and purpose

Yesterday said:

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I don't have any words.

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I am with you. Stunned. Want to help, but how?

Edit: When Katrina hit I was on the floor of the Astrodome helping the people coming in. I was doing something. Now, I don't know what to do.

Urban Country Boy said:

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Yesterday said:

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I don't have any words.

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I am with you. Stunned. Want to help, but how?

Edit: When Katrina hit I was on the floor of the Astrodome with the people coming in. I was doing something. Now, I don't know what to do.

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Right now…honestly…the most helpful thing is to stay out of the area and let the crews do what they need to do…

Donate, pray, support those who need it…but there's nothing you can do to help in that area directly…let the first responders do their thing…

jrrhouston98 said:

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My niece sent me this, her friend is a counselor in Bubble Inn and is still missing. If I need to delete, please let me know.

Some more clarity on what happened at Mystic

What we know from a flat perspective is that the flooding started to hit but it was the middle of the night. Dick was coming down with Edward in cars trying to get campers to a safer spot either the new camp or somewhere else. He was driving back-and-forth and back-and-forth and two cabins made it to sky high and the rest of the camp made it to the new camp. The campers not accounted for were bubble inn and the twins cabins. Dick was driving to bubble in to get the girls and was loading them in his truck when the truck got swept away. Libby Liuzzi was in a twins cabin and they couldn't open the door and so she smashed the windows and we're sending her girls out to get to safety. I know she's OK and half of her cabin is OK. Half of Harrisson Hall is gone. Some girls on the flats went to cozy with the big three and some girls then went to rec Hall because the flooding was increasing, and as it got higher and higher, they went to the second floor of rec hall and they were with the younger campers and the water would hit them while they were on that second floor because of the waves crashing in from the floods.

I know the girls in cozy were first holding onto the poles because the flood waters were so intense, but then it got to their heads to the point where they weren't gonna be able to breathe so they had to climb to get to the roof. Elizabeth Sweet took off her shirt at some point and made a rope to get Rachel farhiootie onto the roof. The water was over the roof, but they were just clutching onto the roof the whole time. Cars are piled on top of each other. There was an entire pileup of just so many cars. Christiana said that it looked unreal. From the hill, they saw a car that wasby the art hut and one that was by the bridge.

- Meredith Martin, when the flooding hit, went to dick and tweety's house and smashed the window and went and saved Tweety

It's now a recovery mission and no longer a rescue mission. "

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I want to clarify to those looking for info that this is a more firsthand account than what I have posted. My knowledge comes from my wife's time working as Big 3 (think lead counselors) who was well aware of safety plans for flood events. And from peripheral sources that were around what happened and close to the situation. My wife has yet to be able to reach anyone that survived the tragedy. Our prayers are deeply with the whole community right now

I talked with my boss this morning. He said their church in Kerrville will likely be leading the effort for support in the coming days. As soon as he gets info for donations and coordinating help, he'll share it with me and I'll share it here.

Just incredible, heart-breaking. And, I have been around rivers on the Edwards Plateau all my life. They all flow generally NW to SE steep gradient in places with devastating effect. They are generally placid and beautiful but turn into raging torrents when deluges occur on the upper watershed.

Any updates from overnight IR work?

FireAg said:

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Right now…honestly…the most helpful thing is to stay out of the area and let the crews do what they need to do…

Donate, pray, support those who need it…but there's nothing you can do to help in that area directly…let the first responders do their thing…

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Do you know where donations would be best made?

Law enforcement is saying to stay away unless you have family in the area, at this point more harm than help. Group of retired special ops groups came in to help and were given advanced comms equipment…that don't work. Too much confusion going on for anyone without training to be involved.

From someone that has done some SAR stuff and been through my fair share of tragedy, reach out to me at any time if you need to talk. I may not be the best but I can put you in contact with someone that can.

Give to churches and task forces, they are one step removed from helping and it's easier to follow the money.

We pray for those families and friends involved as well as the first responders. This will take years to unpack everything and the most important thing is to talk to someone. What really helped me was when I finally submitted to God and didn't carry the burden on my own.

Deuteronomy 31:8: "The Lord himself goes before you and will be with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged."

spud1910 said:

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FireAg said:

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Right now…honestly…the most helpful thing is to stay out of the area and let the crews do what they need to do…

Donate, pray, support those who need it…but there's nothing you can do to help in that area directly…let the first responders do their thing…

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Do you know where donations would be best made?

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Listening to the presser, the mayor of Kerville said to check the city Facebook page for ways to donate. If you're looking to donate financially, here is the place he referenced for monetary donations:
https://cftexashillcountry.fcsuite.com/erp/donate/create/fund?funit_id=4201&fbclid=IwQ0xDSwLWNvtleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHpwTuEaNMQrhNOG9e4L0xCPZHdemtLlzSYJsALpksGmXDLpU9THpypazJ6kI_aem_cYX6jXDpRDITmCgJGyLRRg]