Ragoo said:

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Dirty-8-thirty Ag said:

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I'm replying to what you said. You said something along the lines of "could the horse run the pattern by memory, sure. Will it? Nope." I was pointing out a barrel horse will in fact run a pattern without a rider. In fact it happened this past year to a friend of mine, Katelyn Scott, at the NFR. Horse slipped during first turn and she came off the horse. What did the horse do? It got up and completed the pattern without her on its back.

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you are being a little obtuse - the point is the cowgirl makes the horse run the course to a winning time. That adds to the excitement and skill of the event.

No doubt there is skill in roping a steer but a straight line event that is over as soon as it begins is boring to watch. It just is. And that makes the event feel more like a participation trophy than a real rodeo event.

I will back out of the thread though. My rodeo days were only in high school and they consisted of smoking cigars and riding practice pen bulls in Marion.

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I'm a product of Vic's in Marion also. I can remember a few bulls there that were more than most of us could handle, not sure where they came from but they were there every now and then to take your money! Great memories!

John Cocktolstoy said:

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Ragoo said:

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Dirty-8-thirty Ag said:

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I'm replying to what you said. You said something along the lines of "could the horse run the pattern by memory, sure. Will it? Nope." I was pointing out a barrel horse will in fact run a pattern without a rider. In fact it happened this past year to a friend of mine, Katelyn Scott, at the NFR. Horse slipped during first turn and she came off the horse. What did the horse do? It got up and completed the pattern without her on its back.

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you are being a little obtuse - the point is the cowgirl makes the horse run the course to a winning time. That adds to the excitement and skill of the event.

No doubt there is skill in roping a steer but a straight line event that is over as soon as it begins is boring to watch. It just is. And that makes the event feel more like a participation trophy than a real rodeo event.

I will back out of the thread though. My rodeo days were only in high school and they consisted of smoking cigars and riding practice pen bulls in Marion.

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I'm a product of Vic's in Marion also. I can remember a few bulls there that were more than most of us could handle, not sure where they came from but they were there every now and then to take your money! Great memories!

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what years?

Ragoo said:

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John Cocktolstoy said:

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Ragoo said:

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Dirty-8-thirty Ag said:

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I'm replying to what you said. You said something along the lines of "could the horse run the pattern by memory, sure. Will it? Nope." I was pointing out a barrel horse will in fact run a pattern without a rider. In fact it happened this past year to a friend of mine, Katelyn Scott, at the NFR. Horse slipped during first turn and she came off the horse. What did the horse do? It got up and completed the pattern without her on its back.

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you are being a little obtuse - the point is the cowgirl makes the horse run the course to a winning time. That adds to the excitement and skill of the event.

No doubt there is skill in roping a steer but a straight line event that is over as soon as it begins is boring to watch. It just is. And that makes the event feel more like a participation trophy than a real rodeo event.

I will back out of the thread though. My rodeo days were only in high school and they consisted of smoking cigars and riding practice pen bulls in Marion.

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I'm a product of Vic's in Marion also. I can remember a few bulls there that were more than most of us could handle, not sure where they came from but they were there every now and then to take your money! Great memories!

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what years?

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82-85, I think in 85 I went maybe 3 times. I was in Kingsville.

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This. When we go trail riding, usually with a group that usually has more women than men cause my wife and her girlfriends plan it …….
I always like to be tail end Charlie because of the view. Nothing like tight lady jeans swaying in the saddle.

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then if you are really lucky some of those tight lady jeans are framed up in a nice pair of chaps….

I tried roping once... just once... those ladies work their tails off

"Prater Gibbs"

I met Prater more than 50 years ago and haven't heard his name since, but still remember him. Didn't expect to read it on TexAgs.

His son Miles married a girl from Del Rio where I grew up. I met Prater in the early 2000's when I worked for Miles and his father-in-law while I was in HS. He was something else.

Dirty-8-thirty Ag said:

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We will have to agree to disagree on the skill part. Everyone likes different events and that's okay.

On a different note, Marion, TX home of the infamous Miles and Prater Gibbs. Prater was a great guy.

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Dirty this past week I went down the rabbit hole. This post made so many memories flood back. Spent so much time in the towns around me and made for some great rivalry and long lasting friendships. I remember the Gibbs' and didn't put 2 and 2 together until last year that Miles was a Marion guy. My son is in his last year of showing goats and you see so many judges. I started thinking about New Berlin, LaVernia, and immediately my brain was in Goerke's! Man that was a great eatery!

The wife and I started watching rodeos on The Cowboy Channel about 4 years ago and really enjoy it. We both enjoy the breakaway roping as much as the rest of the events and wish they would add it to the NFR.