maroon barchetta said:

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If everything is above board, release the body cam videos.

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This.

Hornbeck said:

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CSPD's pat answer is that they don't make body cam footage available.

To me, that is unacceptable in this current climate. It gives the overall air that their personnel are unaccountable. I think that it is only a matter of time before some event like another George Floyd, etc. makes this the law of the land, and have it available.

I also think our elected officials are adding to the perception that we are just a bunch of good ole boy bubbas. I don't see that changing until they are either forced, or there is a compelling event.

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Has someone from cspd or the city actually said they will not release body camera footage? Is this in writing somewhere? This seems like an even bigger news story in today's climate.

Yes. When all this broke, the city attorney told the local news media that their policy was to not release body cam footage. The local media (looking at you KBTX) said, "K thx, bye!"

Which falls right in line with KBTX's normal policy of tossing softballs to the local municipalities.

Hornbeck said:

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Yes. When all this broke, the city attorney told the local news media that their policy was to not release body cam footage. The local media (looking at you KBTX) said, "K thx, bye!"

Which falls right in line with KBTX's normal policy of tossing softballs to the local municipalities.

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If I remember correctly, a current city councilman asked about getting the body cam video released and was basically told to back off.

Wow, I missed that. Surprised there wasn't more outcry or out of area news coverage.

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Aggieranger said:

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Please don't play the defending your home card as the police announced several times who they were and why they are there.......

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How do we know that?

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Not from the bodycam footage.

Aggieranger said:

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Ok I am really late to this discussion but the last thing ANYONE should be doing when Police enter your home is be holding a gun! Wether he fired or not when a police raid is happening things are happening in seconds at a time. you kick open a bedroom door and someone points a gun at you, 99% of the time they're going to get shot. Play stupid game win stupid prizes!


Please don't play the defending your home card as the police announced several times who they were and why they are there.......

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https://texags.com/forums/35/topics/3360444/replies/66079900

As I have mentioned several times throughout these discussions "announcing" is also what home invaders often do-

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My family was home invaded and robbed when I was 10 years old. The robbery started off with the door kick at 4am and the meth head invaders shouting "Police search warrant!" repeatedly as they poured in.

I know nothing about what really happened the night this young man was killed, nor do I claim to. I do however know that just because someone "announces" that they are LE, doesn't necessarily mean that they are legitimate LE and not just nefarious intruders.

Because of what happened to me and my and siblings as children, I sleep with a couple large caliber attitude adjusters within arms reach, and, can tell you 100% that whomever comes through my door uninvited will be engaged. The 4th amendment exists for a very good reason

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Aggieranger said:

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you kick open a bedroom door and someone points a gun at you, 99% of the time they're going to get shot.

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I can't tell if this refers to the person who was killed or the police who killed him...


Went to CoCS's monthly seminar this week. Bruce Millman, analyst for CSPD, was giving the presentation.

• Asked for no one to record or take photos of his slideshow for some reason. I never saw any top-secret info.
• Mentioned Flock cameras and says they are only for bad guys and that we have nothing to worry about.
• Used the term "thugs" to refer to suspects a half-dozen times
• Said he would have to move if his residence was burglarized due to the trauma of revisiting the scene. Imagine if, rather than a burglary, the police kicked down the door and killed someone who wasn't even the target of the raid?
• I nearly hurt my jaw/teeth trying to chew the rock-hard bread on the catered Panera sandwiches

What exactly is the point of a bodycam if the footage of critical incidents isn't released? Combined with all the other CoCS shenanigans, it's not a good look. A CSPD guy giving a public seminar for some good PR and asking no one to record looks odd.

I don't doubt what the ranger report said about the kid shooting first. But it comes down to if the kid was intentionally shooting at a cop or was he shooting at some home invading burglars- in his mind. The first doesn't make sense because he wasn't the dealer that they were looking for and it sounds like he wasn't even involved. So if he thought he was shooting at home invaders, why would he think that? Maybe from being awakened from a deep sleep at 6 am and only being given a few seconds to process the yelling and noise before his door got kicked in with bright lights being shined on him and a stun grenade being thrown in that further blinded him and overpowered his hearing? If that is the case then maybe the cops should have reconsidered that plan and a kid wouldn't be dead and a cop almost dead over some weed that wasn't even there.