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In reply to txags92 • 10:54a, 7/11/25
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txags92 said:
Complete Idiot said:
It's really amazing to me anyone can watch the video in the OP, including the rear view, and choose to go after anything other than the white pickup driver. Like, almost mind boggling.

And I'm someone who has some anger/control issues regarding oblivious drivers and who likes to drive above the speed limit. I will pass on the right if safe and open, would never come close to doing what that white pick was doing - again, not just the ending, he comes in super hot from way back in the rear view. We know what happened here yet still want to talk about possible left lane squatting?
Don't take what I am saying the wrong way. There is still no excuse to go full ******* like the white truck in the video did. That guy clearly was the direct cause of the collisions in the video. But the "root cause" is a safety term that strips away all of the human actions and "this guy was just an idiot" level causes and looks for what was the initiating action that led to the whole cascade of things that caused the accident. If the other drivers saw the raging idiot coming up behind them and got out of the left lane to let him pass, none of the rest of it happens. But in Houston, driving is a competitive sport and people are far more likely to see the raging idiot come up behind them trying to pass and speed up just enough to keep him from having a lane to pass them to "teach him a lesson about patience" or whatever. When dealing with idiots, eventually you are going to cause a rage monkey to go off like this when doing that.
The White Taco guy was an idiot / ahole, etc.

But as my classmate here pointed out, EVERY time I drive from Beltway 8 to Texas City Bucees on I-45 I see this type of behavior. The only difference is that all the baws from "The Plant" are driving like this in F-250s.

And of course there are the straight up street racers going 30-60 mph faster than traffic.

In gender fairness, last weekend, driving back from Waco, I did see a hottie in an F-350 jacked up to the moon who got pulled over for driving 100 mph. She was right up my arse as I was doing 80+ and eventually I was able to let her by. I was really surprised though 15 minutes later when I passed her because a State Trooper had her stopped. Based on the truck and the aggressive driving, I assumed it was a guy.
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In reply to Complete Idiot • 11:11a, 7/11/25
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Complete Idiot said:
It's really amazing to me anyone can watch the video in the OP, including the rear view, and choose to go after anything other than the white pickup driver. Like, almost mind boggling.

And I'm someone who has some anger/control issues regarding oblivious drivers and who likes to drive above the speed limit. I will pass on the right if safe and open, would never come close to doing what that white pick was doing - again, not just the ending, he comes in super hot from way back in the rear view. We know what happened here yet still want to talk about possible left lane squatting?
Not excusing the behavior of the white truck at all, but if the left lane was open, that would never have happened. In the 13 seconds we see before to the accident, absolutely 0 passing was being accomplished in the left lane. I saw 4 cars pacing each other.

I've shot some tight gaps like that when I was younger, and I probably still shoot some gaps that are too tight when I'm in quick car with good brakes, but the reaction of the white SUV driver is why I typically don't do it. I couldn't tell if the truck made contact or if the SUV driver wasn't paying attention and panic'd when they saw a truck merging too closely,.

White truck driver is primary at fault but I'd also put fault on the lead car clogging up the left lane. DPS needs to do way more targeted enforcement of camping in passing lanes than seatbelt, tint, and front license plate.
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In reply to txyaloo • 11:20a, 7/11/25
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txyaloo said:
Complete Idiot said:
It's really amazing to me anyone can watch the video in the OP, including the rear view, and choose to go after anything other than the white pickup driver. Like, almost mind boggling.

And I'm someone who has some anger/control issues regarding oblivious drivers and who likes to drive above the speed limit. I will pass on the right if safe and open, would never come close to doing what that white pick was doing - again, not just the ending, he comes in super hot from way back in the rear view. We know what happened here yet still want to talk about possible left lane squatting?
Not excusing the behavior of the white truck at all, but if the left lane was open, that would never have happened. In the 13 seconds we see before to the accident, absolutely 0 passing was being accomplished in the left lane. I saw 4 cars pacing each other.

I've shot some tight gaps like that when I was younger, and I probably still shoot some gaps that are too tight when I'm in quick car with good brakes, but the reaction of the white SUV driver is why I typically don't do it. I couldn't tell if the truck made contact or if the SUV driver wasn't paying attention and panic'd when they saw a truck merging too closely,.

White truck driver is primary at fault but I'd also put fault on the lead car clogging up the left lane. DPS needs to do way more targeted enforcement of camping in passing lanes than seatbelt, tint, and front license plate.
Part of this was also caused by the white truck getting squeezed on the route he had chosen to take around the slower cars. If you look carefully, the white car he eventually collides with first switched lanes to the right, right into the spot he had planned to move to the left into around the car in the right hand lane. With other cars behind the white one, there was now nowhere for him to go to the left, the lane he was in was ending, and the truck in front of him was slowing down because they now have nowhere to merge left into either. He chose to try to shoot the gap and misjudged it, but it is not clear that he could have slowed down in time to avoid the slowing car in front of him either. Obviously, the answer is to not try weaving so fast through traffic where a merge was occurring, but the white car changing lanes to the right into the path of the merging traffic also played a role in how it all turned out.
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In reply to Scruffy • 12:11p, 7/11/25
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Scruffy said:
Kenneth_2003 said:
txags92 said:
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I don't have a problem at being angry with left lane campers, but that also no justification for risking the property and lives of other people by road rage weaving in traffic like a jackass. One is really annoying, the other is life threatening and raises all of our insurance rates.

You're wrong.
Campers need to die a painful death.

They make the road more dangerous due to not opening space for others to get around.
This. Not keeping the passing lane open for passing forces all the passing traffic to filter through slower moving traffic in the right lanes, causing repeated conflicts. The biggest cause of accidents on Houston highways are left lane campers and it isn't close.
I dislike left side campers plenty, but you're wrong.
The cause of accidents is self entitled folks that can't manage their sense of self entitlement at the slightest inconvenience.


You talking about the self entitled folks who can't be inconvenienced to move the eff over and let someone by?
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Not quite. I'm a limit +5-10 guy to avoid the constant weave in and out of a middle lane. The white truck was +20-30+ in the right lanes and refused to check up and forced his way back left causing the mess.

If you roll up on my tailgate like that, when im already speeding, I'll slide over, but only when it doesn't screw me.
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In reply to HollywoodBQ • 12:31p, 7/11/25
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HollywoodBQ said:
txags92 said:
MouthBQ98 said:
It's my observation that they are often passing people on their right, just a lot more sedately and less aggressively than the behind the wheel sociopaths coming up from behind want them to be. If they're passing someone to their right, even slowly, they're entirely legal. If they are pacing the flow of traffic AND traffic conditions allow for passing, then they're breaking the law, but the left lane isn't a private lane for speeders either. I see lots of abuse of this also.
Usually in Houston they are either reading their phone and oblivious to the traffic around (or stacked up behind) them, or talking on the phone with it on speaker while holding it horizontally 3" from their mouth.
100% accurate description

You only left out the fact that they're usually in a 15 year old econobox with peeling clear coat, sometimes with paper plates.



Hey, I have actual plates!!
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In reply to txags92 • 3:00p, 7/11/25
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txags92 said:
Obviously, the answer is to not try weaving so fast through traffic where a merge was occurring, but the white car changing lanes to the right into the path of the merging traffic also played a role in how it all turned out.
The obvious answer is, if you're going to drive 20-30 mph above the flow of traffic, you have to be extra cautious when you change lanes.

You also have to know that most people aren't checking their rear view mirror. Especially when you're passing on the right.

So... if it's not safe, you're going to have to just wait until the traffic clears a little bit.
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3:27p, 7/11/25
Saw a wreck like that on 635. We were in the far right lane, against the concrete barrier. Car passes us on the left, then a car behind it tried to cut in front us.

They clipped the car to our left, causing it to careen head first into the barrier. Sparks and debris hit our car. We locked things up and immediately hit the hazards. We were more worried about getting rear-ended. Out of nowhere a tow truck came up behind us, so we cautiously took off while we had 911 on the line.

A few exits up we see the aggressor. He'd exited, cops were there, and he took off on foot. Literal hit and "run".
Nobody cares. Work Harder
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In reply to BrazosDog02 • 8:50a, 7/12/25
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BrazosDog02 said:
Wierd.....a driver that feels more important than everyone else on the road. That's something you don't see every day.


I'm not more important, I just have places to be that your slow ass obviously doesn't.
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11:29a, 7/12/25
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Why can't people just aggressively highbeam left lane campers? It's pretty effective if you couple it with the NASCAR swerve. You don't need to whip around and wreck everyone else. Be a man, force them out of the way. Some people are just stupid and don't even realize what they are doing in the left lane. Maybe I'm just old school but I don't like whipping around and acting a fool when I can just be an ******* in one place by flicking the high beams.
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In reply to BrazosDog02 • 3:57p, 7/12/25
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BrazosDog02 said:
Why can't people just aggressively highbeam left lane campers? It's pretty effective if you couple it with the NASCAR swerve. You don't need to whip around and wreck everyone else. Be a man, force them out of the way. Some people are just stupid and don't even realize what they are doing in the left lane. Maybe I'm just old school but I don't like whipping around and acting a fool when I can just be an ******* in one place by flicking the high beams.


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In reply to BrazosDog02 • 10:30p, 7/12/25
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BrazosDog02 said:
Why can't people just aggressively highbeam left lane campers? It's pretty effective if you couple it with the NASCAR swerve. You don't need to whip around and wreck everyone else. Be a man, force them out of the way. Some people are just stupid and don't even realize what they are doing in the left lane. Maybe I'm just old school but I don't like whipping around and acting a fool when I can just be an ******* in one place by flicking the high beams.
My LEDs in my 2020 Wrangler are ridiculously bright but... Not always effective at moving left lane campers.
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In reply to BrazosDog02 • 10:36p, 7/12/25
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Why can't people just aggressively highbeam left lane campers?


I have to admire your optimism.

You apparently believe that clueless, self-absorbed, anal orifice drivers who don't give a rat's rear end about courtesy, traffic laws, or anyone else on the highway, will suddenly be convinced of the error of their ways by a few photons.


Photon torpedos, maybe.


Photons, no.
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In reply to CanyonAg77 • 10:56p, 7/12/25
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Out here where most of the pickup drivers are farmers and ranchers, yeah, they are polite and good drivers. They've been driving since before first grade, and they they know you have to share the road with others. They learn this when riding a horse near a road, or driving farm machinery from place to place

From personal experience riding a bicycle on wide shoulders or service roads, I'd rather have 100 pickups pass than one soccer mom


Id rather have 100 soccer moms in front of me than one bicycle anywhere near me. Driving, walking, etc. Literally no. Give me crazy white truck over inconsiderate bicyclists any day of the week. You guys are dangerous and the worst.

But seriously. I hate bicyclists.
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In reply to CanyonAg77 • 12:02a, 7/13/25
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CanyonAg77 said:
BrazosDog02 said:
Why can't people just aggressively highbeam left lane campers?


I have to admire your optimism.

You apparently believe that clueless, self-absorbed, anal orifice drivers who don't give a rat's rear end about courtesy, traffic laws, or anyone else on the highway, will suddenly be convinced of the error of their ways by a few photons.


Photon torpedos, maybe.


Photons, no.

Yeah, that person in the left lane who hasn't used their mirrors since MilliVanilli was winning Grammy awards is going to suddenly decide to look up from that Worldstar video they were watching just because you flashed a couple of light bulbs at them? How hopelessly naive…. You could set a bomb off in the passenger seat next to some of these people and they are still not taking their eyes off of that phone.
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In reply to Complete Idiot • 8:01a, 7/13/25
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Complete Idiot said:
It's really amazing to me anyone can watch the video in the OP, including the rear view, and choose to go after anything other than the white pickup driver. Like, almost mind boggling.

And I'm someone who has some anger/control issues regarding oblivious drivers and who likes to drive above the speed limit. I will pass on the right if safe and open, would never come close to doing what that white pick was doing - again, not just the ending, he comes in super hot from way back in the rear view. We know what happened here yet still want to talk about possible left lane squatting?


Yeah idk what the heck is going on in this thread and the left lane loser talk. This wouldn't have happened if they hadn't been in that lane? What?

"Your honor, what else was I supposed to do? SLOW DOWN AND NOT CROSS 4 LANES AT ONCE?! I'd rather kill multiple people, maybe even some kids, than not be WHO I AM"

"Oh yeah! You're right bro! Left lane losers am I right!? LOLLL!! Case dismissed!"

Sheesh

Plus, it's a 34 second video. You can't draw conclusions on what all of that traffic was doing and the reasons they were in the lanes they were in. Maybe they were about to get over once they got an opening.
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In reply to Kaiser von Wilhelm • 9:48a, 7/13/25
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I understand the bicycle hate. But I'm not one of the peloton types who rides in a group of 30 on a twisty two lane with no shoulder.

I ride a recumbent trike down the service road of rural interstates, where the traffic flow is about 10 cars per hour, on a busy day.

This is the Panhandle, not Houston
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In reply to CanyonAg77 • 11:36a, 7/14/25
CanyonAg77 said:
I understand the bicycle hate. But I'm not one of the peloton types who rides in a group of 30 on a twisty two lane with no shoulder.

I ride a recumbent trike down the service road of rural interstates, where the traffic flow is about 10 cars per hour, on a busy day.

This is the Panhandle, not Houston


Well in that case, it seems time for you to upgrade to a scooter.
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In reply to CanyonAg77 • 5:59p, 7/19/25
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I know!
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9:56p, 7/19/25
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Whatever happened to being a defensive driver? Everyone thinks they own the road. This thread is prime example.
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12:25p, 7/21/25
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I've learned to just pass on the right in Houston the majority of the time. Simply too many people that think they need to get all the way over as soon as the get on the highway going at or below the speed limit. If people don't want to get passed on the right, they shouldn't be driving slow in the fast lanes.
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