New player on the Adventure RV front - Winnebago

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knoxtom
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Winnebago announced the Arko yesterday.



It has some innovation and some good ideas. The wide opening rear doors are fantastic, the modular rear lounge/rear bed area is OK, the bathroom is probably not really a workable solution. Not only are you taking a dump with nothing but a shower curtain for privacy, but when you go to bed you have to walk across the wet floor. No big deal for me, but the wife will probably hate it.


So here are my thoughts. Clearly they aren't going after Earthroamer as they have a relatively cheap build and Earthroamers are like art. I think their competition is the Storyteller Hilt and a few others.

The 5500 chassis with Buckstop super single rear wheels is pretty stout. This isn't just putting big wheels on a 2x2 stick build and watching it rattle to death, this thing will handle some real off road. Not sure if this also has liquid springs (I doubt it at the price point), but even without that chassis is going to be a BEAST, the only thing that will stop this RV is the turning radius. I also really like that they isolated the house from the chassis and allow them to flex separately. That will keep this thing from falling to pieces. The accordion passthrough is interesting. Fiberglass house instead of the carbon fiber Earthroamer and Truckhouse use, but I have seen 30-50 year old RVs made of fiberglass and it withstands UV light well.

I also really like the electrical system. Tons of Amp Hours, tons of solar, huge alternator power. They have a pet system so it keeps cool when a pet is in the house. Nice touch.

The negative is obviously storage. I guess the idea on this one is to use the garage area behind the lounge, but that just seems like everything would fly around unless it was really tied down. Fresh tanks are a little on the small side (60g), gray water is quite small (40g). If you are advertising 14 days in the bush, then you need 100g tanks.

I also love the fabric cabinets... because they are light. In my opinion the most important thing in RV builds is weight and having no wood anywhere in teh entire build is great. Wood is heavy and cabinets weigh a ton.


Price starts at $331k, which is low in this market. Some good innovation here and the price for that chassis and build seems really good. This model solves some things but I just don't know if I like that bathroom system.


My opinion... I would probably look for a 400k used earthroamer over this but they have some great ideas and an awesome electrical system. Overland Expo is coming up fairly soon, I am excited to see this.


Last thing... if you ever get a chance to go to an overland expo then do it. So many cool trucks, campers, off road RV's. So many home engineers thinking of weird stuff. I think this year we are going to the Loveland one and also the one in Redmon Oregon. They are so full of cool and weird stuff.
purplehayes
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When and where will be an overland expo in Texas?
knoxtom
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Where and when in Texas... nowhere and never.

But if I were traveling to Denver, socal, or oregon I would try to fit it in. It is a really fun show. I live in Colorado so rvs like this make sense. If I still lived in Texas I would get a bus
lb3
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AG
My wife and I love the Winnebago EKKO layout and made a couple offers for one last year. But Winnebago has a horrible history of integrating power. On the EKKO forums there is a long history of blown out alternators. One guy this week had a new alternator installed and the system devoured it in 80 miles. Perhaps that's why the ARKA has 3 alternators.

But here is my wife's text to me when she reviewed the preview:
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Picture it: Travel and meet up with some friends, everyone sitting around that generous lounge drinking the beers that are so efficient at lubing up the colon, and someone needs to move five feet to the north in order to take a massive dump behind a glorified CURTAIN?!

Or the unsuspecting wife is right above in the bed when the husband drops the Load of the Century two feet from her and warm air rises, so that scent wafts up to collect in that enclosed bed space…

This thing is a three to four hundred thousand dollar **NIGHTMARE**.
knoxtom
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I didn't know about Ekkos killing alternators. Seems like that might be a supplier problem because secondary alternators are generally tech that has been figured out.


I also saw the bathroom problem right away. When you are designing these things you sell the husband on the coolness of the rv and you sell the wife on the bathroom. Either do the bathroom right, or don't do one at all.
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