I say yes…. Thoughts?
Is Manziel the best QB is college football history?
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He was the most entertaining to watch.
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Yes
Define "best".
Pains me to say it but the answer may be Joe Burrow. Not that I don't like Joe Burrow, it was the team he played for .
Pains me to say it but the answer may be Joe Burrow. Not that I don't like Joe Burrow, it was the team he played for .
No
"So long as an opinion is strongly rooted in the feelings, it gains rather than loses in stability by having a preponderating weight of argument against it."
- John Stuart Mill, 1869
- John Stuart Mill, 1869
So many angles to this. I am a no despite being able to say he was the greatest one to watch (bias acknowledged).
For me, no natty no GOAT. One could argue the youngest Heismen ever angle makes up for the no natty but I think it still falls short. I have a hard time settling on a GOAT in general.
JFF is absolutely in the discussion, however.
For me, no natty no GOAT. One could argue the youngest Heismen ever angle makes up for the no natty but I think it still falls short. I have a hard time settling on a GOAT in general.
JFF is absolutely in the discussion, however.
Most entertaining for sure, and possibly top 10, but not the best.
Nope, didn't win it all. Intangibles matter too... though I think he's in the top 10 for sure.
No. I dont think so.
Tim Tebow
Vince
Tommy Frazier
Cam Newtown
Matr Leinart
Joe burrow
Ken dorsey
Charlie ward
Those are off the top of my head
Johnny is an all time great but I dont think you can put him at the top of the list
Tim Tebow
Vince
Tommy Frazier
Cam Newtown
Matr Leinart
Joe burrow
Ken dorsey
Charlie ward
Those are off the top of my head
Johnny is an all time great but I dont think you can put him at the top of the list
AgFan1974 said:
no natty no GOAT.
"So long as an opinion is strongly rooted in the feelings, it gains rather than loses in stability by having a preponderating weight of argument against it."
- John Stuart Mill, 1869
- John Stuart Mill, 1869
I don't know about the best QB but he will be on the next season of the "Special Forces" show on Fox this Fall...
I never saw anyone better.
Baker Mayfield
Payton Manning
Otto Graham
Jameis Winston
Andrew Luck?
Lamar Jackson?
Payton Manning
Otto Graham
Jameis Winston
Andrew Luck?
Lamar Jackson?
I think so
Yes.
So sad that he didn't pan out.
He established us in the SEC and gave us national recognition. / Heisman. / $$$$$$$$$$$$$+
Still no statue.
So sad that he didn't pan out.
He established us in the SEC and gave us national recognition. / Heisman. / $$$$$$$$$$$$$+
Still no statue.
Sword543w said:
Baker Mayfield
Payton Manning
Otto Graham
Jameis Winston
Andrew Luck?
Lamar Jackson?
I think that's the rung where Johnny resides, except maybe Winston who won a championship
If he stays all four years, he shatters all the qb records
The trolls are out in force today!!
Who?mikejones! said:
No. I dont think so.
Tim Tebow
Vince
Tommy Frazier
Cam Newtown
Matr Leinart
Joe burrow
Ken dorsey
Charlie ward
Those are off the top of my head
Johnny is an all time great but I dont think you can put him at the top of the list
based upon his size...Johnny belongs ahead of Tebow, Cam, and VY
those guys were bigger than the linebackers they played against
they could do things with just brute force size and strength
JF was a much better QB
Yes
People think I'm an idiot or something, because all I do is cut lawns for a living.
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National Greats: Joe Burrow and Vince Young and Winston all won natties because they had a defense.
Aggie Greats: Bucky and Kevin and Corey - none of them can hang.
Without a defense, I saw him beat a top 10 team.
I saw him run circles around the top defense in the NCAA.
When watching the Duke Chick Fillet Bowl, I saw Duke score a touchdown EVERYTIME they touched the ball in the first half and because of Manziel Duke still lost.
Sorry haters, Johnny was the GOAT.
Who else has ever seen a 3rd and over 20 for a first and be excited because you know he's going to find a way to get it...? No one else. Price he paid was his soul, but he appears at times to be trying to get it back.
National Greats: Joe Burrow and Vince Young and Winston all won natties because they had a defense.
Aggie Greats: Bucky and Kevin and Corey - none of them can hang.
Without a defense, I saw him beat a top 10 team.
I saw him run circles around the top defense in the NCAA.
When watching the Duke Chick Fillet Bowl, I saw Duke score a touchdown EVERYTIME they touched the ball in the first half and because of Manziel Duke still lost.
Sorry haters, Johnny was the GOAT.
Who else has ever seen a 3rd and over 20 for a first and be excited because you know he's going to find a way to get it...? No one else. Price he paid was his soul, but he appears at times to be trying to get it back.
W said:Who?mikejones! said:
No. I dont think so.
Tim Tebow
Vince
Tommy Frazier
Cam Newtown
Matr Leinart
Joe burrow
Ken dorsey
Charlie ward
Those are off the top of my head
Johnny is an all time great but I dont think you can put him at the top of the list
based upon his size...Johnny belongs ahead of Tebow, Cam, and VY
those guys were bigger than the linebackers they played against
they could do things with just brute force size and strength
JF was a much better QB
I dont know about that.
Yes. He's Johnny F. Football. Joe corn dog Burrow is runner-up. Peyton hound dog Manning is third.
Cam Newton is his friend dawg.
Cam Newton is his friend dawg.
Slicer97 said:
He was the most entertaining to watch.
Michael Vick held this spot until JFF eclipsed him.
"Who's this Johnny kid?"
Wake me up when next year is finally THIS year.
Roger Staubach.
He was Johnny before Johnny.
Would've won 2 Heismans had he not been injured his senior year.
But I'd say it's those 2
Side note: Staubach also lettered in all 3 major men's sports during his 4 years at Navy. Scouts said he was good enough to go pro in all 3.
After Bo Jackson, Roger may have been the best college athlete ever
He was Johnny before Johnny.
Would've won 2 Heismans had he not been injured his senior year.
But I'd say it's those 2
Side note: Staubach also lettered in all 3 major men's sports during his 4 years at Navy. Scouts said he was good enough to go pro in all 3.
After Bo Jackson, Roger may have been the best college athlete ever
TheDecadeSapling said:
If he stays all four years, he shatters all the qb records
Of this, there is no doubt
As far as being the most difficult to shut down, electric on every play, clutch, record breaking numbers for only 2 years of college, and simply being who I would most want to pay to see play again- Its JFF!
That dude played playground ball and made SEC defenders look pedestrian. I don't know if he is the GOAT but I'd rather see him play in his "Prime" over any other QB
That dude played playground ball and made SEC defenders look pedestrian. I don't know if he is the GOAT but I'd rather see him play in his "Prime" over any other QB
Michael Vick maybe at least deserves getting mentioned.
Roger Staubach
Not the "greatest" (which is a dumb argument as football is so incredibly dependent on the other 10 guys on the field with you) but certainly in the top tier.
At the time, he was a revelation and did a lot to upend traditional QB "norms". He was also the second college player to become a real cultural phenom in the 21st century after Tebow.
At the time, he was a revelation and did a lot to upend traditional QB "norms". He was also the second college player to become a real cultural phenom in the 21st century after Tebow.
4 said:TheDecadeSapling said:
If he stays all four years, he shatters all the qb records
Of this, there is no doubt
Unless his demons started to settle in more, of which we may have gotten to witness the flameout 1st hand
Yes, he's the GOAT
He was good, arguably the best at A&M, but not in all of college football history.
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