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hunter2012
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A&M is -14.5

Do they not know Aggie football? A Mississippi team playing us as we ascend the top 10 is a tailor made trap. Though the night game is beneficial to us.
Aggie Dad 26
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hunter2012 said:

A&M is -14.5

Do they not know Aggie football? A Mississippi team playing us as we ascend the top 10 is a tailor made trap. Though the night game is beneficial to us.

Its not November yet
carl spacklers hat
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Opened at -12.5. All the crazies betting on A&M has pushed it up to -14.5.
People think I'm an idiot or something, because all I do is cut lawns for a living.
Rec
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Everywhere you go in Vegas it smells like weed, so yeah they are high just like the spread.
agspirit_09
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If you think it's a crazy number put your life savings on clanga to cover…
OKC~Ag
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vegas odds sucks

not sure to whom this complaint be directed...seems high

against Auburn was -6 and 1/2. No way to win that bet.

If A&M plays inefficiently, we can win but loses the gambling

I wish you can bet A&M covers...and win the bet on A&M
Mr.Milkshake
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If you aren't an idiot you realize that we couldve easily won the auburn game 29-3 or better
amercer
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Vegas is really good.

Bottlehead90
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Spread is surprising especially since Tennessee needed two defensive touchdowns to get state to OT.
Maroon Flash
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Not this year sir. Craver is gonna tell Klein who to match him against. MSU getting torched. They were down to 3rd string corners vs Tennessee.

Vegas is not off on this.
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the more coolest guy
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Vegas knows stuff
aggiejim70
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the more coolest guy said:

Vegas knows stuff

The main thing they know is Rule # I....... The House Always Wins
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Ag1188
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For as close as the score was vs Tennessee, and MSU might should've won, MSU was outgained 466-378. 200 of that for Miss St was rushing.
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carl spacklers hat said:

Opened at -12.5. All the crazies betting on A&M has pushed it up to -14.5.


Well, expect some more Aggie touchdowns to get called back and at least 10 penalties.
SourLakeAg
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What do you mean? A&M very easily could've covered 6.5 vs Auburn? Vegas was pretty spot on with the 6.5 line.
Shooz in Katy
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Well Grok has some interesting insight.

Prompt: Take on the role as an expert Las Vegas college football odds maker. Explain why Las Vegas has the Texas A&M Aggies as -14.5 point favorites over the Mississippi State Bulldogs this weekend.

As a veteran oddsmaker with over two decades sharpening lines on The Stripcrafting spreads that balance sharp money, public action, and the house's edgeI'll break down why we've pegged Texas A&M as a -14.5 favorite against Mississippi State this Saturday at Kyle Field. This isn't just a number pulled from thin air; it's the result of layering team power ratings, situational edges, and market signals into a projected margin of victory around 16-18 points for the Aggies. Let me walk you through the key drivers, step by step.

### 1. **Team Power Ratings and Form: A&M's Elite Profile vs. MSU's Solid-but-Shaky Start**
At its core, every line starts with adjusted power ratingsthink Sagarin or our proprietary models that factor in strength of schedule, tempo, and efficiency metrics. Texas A&M sits at a blistering 4-0 (1-0 SEC), ranked No. 6 in the AP poll, with a net rating that's top-10 nationally in both offensive and defensive EPA (expected points added per play). They've been a machine: holding opponents to 17 points per game while scoring 35+, including a gritty 24-20 win over then-No. 12 Notre Dame in Week 2. QB Marcel Reed has been surgical (68% completion, low turnovers), and the run game with Le'Veon Moss is pounding defenses into submission.

Mississippi State, meanwhile, is 4-1 (0-1 SEC) but punching above their weight against cupcakestheir wins came against directional schools and Northern Illinois, with an average margin of 28 points in those blowouts. Their only real test was a 27-13 loss to Georgia in SEC play, exposing vulnerabilities against top-tier fronts. Adjusted ratings put MSU around +4 to +6 nationallyrespectable for a Jeff Lebby rebuild in Year 2, but a clear step below A&M's +18 to +20 tier. That raw disparity alone projects a 12-14 point edge for the Aggies before adjustments.

### 2. **Home-Field Advantage at Kyle Field: The 12th Man Factor**
We're hosting this at Kyle Field, where the "12th Man" isn't hypeit's data. A&M is 22-3 at home under Mike Elko, with opponents covering the spread just 35% of the time in big games. The noise (often topping 120 decibels) disrupts false starts and audibles, adding about 2.5-3 points to the home spread in SEC matchups. MSU's road record? A pedestrian 1-1 this year, and they've been outscored by 10+ in true away games historically against Power 4 foes. We bake in a full 3-point home bump here, pushing the line toward double digits.

### 3. **Injuries and Personnel Edges: MSU's Mounting Losses Tip the Scale**
Injuries are the great equalizeror in MSU's case, the great unbalancer. The Bulldogs are banged up heading into College Station: starting RT Albert Reese IV (key protector for QB Blake Shapen) is out with a lower-body issue from the Georgia game, forcing a reshuffle on an O-line that's already allowed 12 sacks. Speedy WR Brenen Thompson (team-leading 28 catches, 5 TDs) and versatile DB Isaac Smith are both questionable with soft-tissue tweaks, potentially sidelining 30% of their explosive plays and coverage versatility. DL Will Whitson is done for the year (undisclosed), thinning their front seven against A&M's ground attack.

A&M isn't unscathedLB Scooby Williams (ankle) is out, and S Bryce Anderson's return is delayedbut their depth chart is stacked: backups like Edgerrin Cooper at LB have stepped up seamlessly, and OL Reuben Fatheree is back from IR to fortify the trenches. Net effect? We shade another 2-3 points toward A&M, as MSU's injury hit rate (three starters potentially sidelined) could balloon their turnover and sack totals.

### 4. **Head-to-Head Trends and SEC Context: Recent Dominance**
History favors the home team here. While the all-time series is split 9-9, A&M has owned the last three meetings, including a 51-10 rout in Starkville last year where they held MSU to 220 total yards. In SEC play specifically, the Aggies are 7-3 lifetime against the Bulldogs, with a +14 average margin in wins. MSU hasn't beaten a top-10 team on the road since 2014, and their +450 moneyline implies just a 18% win probabilityaligning with ESPN's 78.9% A&M projection. We factor in a 1-2 point "rivalry fade" for recency, but it still tilts Aggie-ward.

### 5. **Market and Total Signals: Confirming the -14.5 Pivot**
The total's hovering at 57.5-58.5, reflecting A&M's defensive clamp (top-15 in yards allowed) meeting MSU's up-tempo offense (42 points per game in wins). Early action has 65% of bets on A&M, but 75% of the handlesharps like the spread, forcing us to pin at -14.5 (half-point to discourage pushes). If MSU gets healthier midweek, we might tick to -13.5; otherwise, expect steam to -15 if Reed lights up the night.

In sum, this line captures A&M's superior talent and setup against a gritty but gassed MSU squad. Projected score: Aggies 38, Bulldogs 22. Play the under if you're fading the totalthe defenses travel better than the offenses in October heat. Questions on props or parlays? Hit meVegas never sleeps.
Shooz in Katy
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Great to see Edgerrin Cooper will be available to start for us against MSST Saturday! Looks like we also beat ND 24-20 a few weeks ago. News to me! Thought it was 41-40.

LOL, AI is still full of hallucinations. Looks like we get to keep our jobs a bit longer. Still an entertaining read - despite the jumbled dribble.
TexAgs23
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Shooz in Katy said:

Well Grok has some interesting insight.

Prompt: Take on the role as an expert Las Vegas college football odds maker. Explain why Las Vegas has the Texas A&M Aggies as -14.5 point favorites over the Mississippi State Bulldogs this weekend.

As a veteran oddsmaker with over two decades sharpening lines on The Stripcrafting spreads that balance sharp money, public action, and the house's edgeI'll break down why we've pegged Texas A&M as a -14.5 favorite against Mississippi State this Saturday at Kyle Field. This isn't just a number pulled from thin air; it's the result of layering team power ratings, situational edges, and market signals into a projected margin of victory around 16-18 points for the Aggies. Let me walk you through the key drivers, step by step.

### 1. **Team Power Ratings and Form: A&M's Elite Profile vs. MSU's Solid-but-Shaky Start**
At its core, every line starts with adjusted power ratingsthink Sagarin or our proprietary models that factor in strength of schedule, tempo, and efficiency metrics. Texas A&M sits at a blistering 4-0 (1-0 SEC), ranked No. 6 in the AP poll, with a net rating that's top-10 nationally in both offensive and defensive EPA (expected points added per play). They've been a machine: holding opponents to 17 points per game while scoring 35+, including a gritty 24-20 win over then-No. 12 Notre Dame in Week 2. QB Marcel Reed has been surgical (68% completion, low turnovers), and the run game with Le'Veon Moss is pounding defenses into submission.

Mississippi State, meanwhile, is 4-1 (0-1 SEC) but punching above their weight against cupcakestheir wins came against directional schools and Northern Illinois, with an average margin of 28 points in those blowouts. Their only real test was a 27-13 loss to Georgia in SEC play, exposing vulnerabilities against top-tier fronts. Adjusted ratings put MSU around +4 to +6 nationallyrespectable for a Jeff Lebby rebuild in Year 2, but a clear step below A&M's +18 to +20 tier. That raw disparity alone projects a 12-14 point edge for the Aggies before adjustments.

### 2. **Home-Field Advantage at Kyle Field: The 12th Man Factor**
We're hosting this at Kyle Field, where the "12th Man" isn't hypeit's data. A&M is 22-3 at home under Mike Elko, with opponents covering the spread just 35% of the time in big games. The noise (often topping 120 decibels) disrupts false starts and audibles, adding about 2.5-3 points to the home spread in SEC matchups. MSU's road record? A pedestrian 1-1 this year, and they've been outscored by 10+ in true away games historically against Power 4 foes. We bake in a full 3-point home bump here, pushing the line toward double digits.

### 3. **Injuries and Personnel Edges: MSU's Mounting Losses Tip the Scale**
Injuries are the great equalizeror in MSU's case, the great unbalancer. The Bulldogs are banged up heading into College Station: starting RT Albert Reese IV (key protector for QB Blake Shapen) is out with a lower-body issue from the Georgia game, forcing a reshuffle on an O-line that's already allowed 12 sacks. Speedy WR Brenen Thompson (team-leading 28 catches, 5 TDs) and versatile DB Isaac Smith are both questionable with soft-tissue tweaks, potentially sidelining 30% of their explosive plays and coverage versatility. DL Will Whitson is done for the year (undisclosed), thinning their front seven against A&M's ground attack.

A&M isn't unscathedLB Scooby Williams (ankle) is out, and S Bryce Anderson's return is delayedbut their depth chart is stacked: backups like Edgerrin Cooper at LB have stepped up seamlessly, and OL Reuben Fatheree is back from IR to fortify the trenches. Net effect? We shade another 2-3 points toward A&M, as MSU's injury hit rate (three starters potentially sidelined) could balloon their turnover and sack totals.

### 4. **Head-to-Head Trends and SEC Context: Recent Dominance**
History favors the home team here. While the all-time series is split 9-9, A&M has owned the last three meetings, including a 51-10 rout in Starkville last year where they held MSU to 220 total yards. In SEC play specifically, the Aggies are 7-3 lifetime against the Bulldogs, with a +14 average margin in wins. MSU hasn't beaten a top-10 team on the road since 2014, and their +450 moneyline implies just a 18% win probabilityaligning with ESPN's 78.9% A&M projection. We factor in a 1-2 point "rivalry fade" for recency, but it still tilts Aggie-ward.

### 5. **Market and Total Signals: Confirming the -14.5 Pivot**
The total's hovering at 57.5-58.5, reflecting A&M's defensive clamp (top-15 in yards allowed) meeting MSU's up-tempo offense (42 points per game in wins). Early action has 65% of bets on A&M, but 75% of the handlesharps like the spread, forcing us to pin at -14.5 (half-point to discourage pushes). If MSU gets healthier midweek, we might tick to -13.5; otherwise, expect steam to -15 if Reed lights up the night.

In sum, this line captures A&M's superior talent and setup against a gritty but gassed MSU squad. Projected score: Aggies 38, Bulldogs 22. Play the under if you're fading the totalthe defenses travel better than the offenses in October heat. Questions on props or parlays? Hit meVegas never sleeps.

Man, so many errors in this... But.... I do love that Edgerrin Cooper is now able to leave the Packers and come in as a backup for us.

To answer the OP's original question, I think Shooz is high.
AceAggie05
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Was about to post this.

Plus, Miss St hasn't played Georgia this year. (point #1).

A&M isn't 22-3 at home under Elko (unless Grok counts when Elko was the Def Coordinator, but i'm still pretty sure that isn't right. point #2)
1st Generation Ag
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Shooz in Katy said:

Well Grok has some interesting insight.

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### 4. **Head-to-Head Trends and SEC Context: Recent Dominance**
History favors the home team here. While the all-time series is split 9-9, A&M has owned the last three meetings, including a 51-10 rout in Starkville last year where they held MSU to 220 total yards. In SEC play specifically, the Aggies are 7-3 lifetime against the Bulldogs, with a +14 average margin in wins. MSU hasn't beaten a top-10 team on the road since 2014, and their +450 moneyline implies just a 18% win probabilityaligning with ESPN's 78.9% A&M projection. We factor in a 1-2 point "rivalry fade" for recency, but it still tilts Aggie-ward.

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That's interesting all right. Did we really win by 41 points last season, or did Kyle Field move to Starkville in 2023?

Also, if Grok can give us a .700 record against State, I wouldn't mind.
Jawn Dough
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Vegas owns a lot of houses and farms that used to belong to TexAgs' posters.
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OKC~Ag said:

vegas odds sucks

not sure to whom this complaint be directed...seems high

against Auburn was -6 and 1/2. No way to win that bet.

If A&M plays inefficiently, we can win but loses the gambling

I wish you can bet A&M covers...and win the bet on A&M


Your post makes zero sense. You realize we won by 6 and if KC and Bussey could catch it would have been more. Vegas doesn't care, they set/move lines according to bets. Their goal every week is 50/50 and make money on the juice.
25Lighters
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I'll put $50 on us at -14.5......... all the rest of you bet the opposite way and make a ton of money
rootube
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They posted the line to entice the horn fan who dropped $1M on the Horns vs OSU.
Hill08
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rootube said:

They posted the line to entice the horn fan who dropped $1M on the Horns vs OSU.


Wasn't it documented the bet was 550k?
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Mr.Milkshake said:

If you aren't an idiot you realize that we couldve easily won the auburn game 29-3 or better

But . . . we didn't.

If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.
Apollo79
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love threads like this OP says its a lock but has no action on it...
rootube
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Hill08 said:

rootube said:

They posted the line to entice the horn fan who dropped $1M on the Horns vs OSU.


Wasn't it documented the bet was 550k?


Who knows. The original story was $500k and then there was a story that came in that there was a separate bet that was $1M. These days it's hard to know what's BS and what is real.
Ginormus Ag
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I'll wait for Spreadsheet Ag's analysis.
Maroon Dawn
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Thought I heard something about them getting pretty banged up in their game against Tennessee, something like 6-ish injuries? If Vegas has info that several won't be playing this week that might be what's driving this
DTX_12
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If my eyes I haven't been lying to me I honestly expect that we are going to stomp on state. The game shouldn't be close.
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The Cowboys proved Sunday night that no matter what you may think you know………you absolutely don't know.
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I think 14.5 points is a bit too high, even for a night home game against a Mississippi State team that has lost 13 consecutive SEC games and 16 of their last 17 SEC games since the start of the 2023 season. Mississippi State played two games against Power 4 teams, and they beat Arizona State 24-20 and lost 41-34 in overtime to Tennessee. Before that overtime loss, Mississippi State had lost 12 consecutive SEC games by 10+ points each. Mississippi State played a road game at Southern Miss, but they will be playing an SEC road game for the first time this season.

Since joining the SEC, we are 7-6 against Mississippi State, but 4-2 in home games against Mississippi State with all 4 wins were by 10+ points. We have won 2 consecutive games against Mississippi State by 10+ points each.

2013: 51-41 win
2015: 30-17 win
2017: 35-14 loss
2019: 49-30 win
2021: 26-22 loss
2023: 51-10 win

Hopefully, we dominate Mississippi State from start to finish to get to 5-0 (2-0 SEC). This would also be the first time we have won 3 consecutive games against Mississippi State.
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