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Why Schedule Notre Dame?

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Onionman
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TxAgPreacher said:

Onionman said:

TxAgPreacher said:

Onionman said:

TxAgPreacher said:

The lie tu is spinning is they are not in because they scheduled OSU. They are not in cuz they lost to Florida.

There is such a thing as a good loss. Its better to schedule tough, and win or narrowly lose if you take care of the bottom dwellers.(which you have to do anyways to get in)

I disagree.

If they played a cream puff like T Tech, Ole Miss, Indiana or Oregon did then they would be 10-2.

No committee will leave out a 10-2 Texas team even with a horrible loss to FL. (See Bama's even worse loss to FSU).



Bama beat Georgia, and made the championship game so... I disagree.

With a cupake tu doesnt make it 10-2 with a loss to Florida.

So even though Bama loses to a worse team in FSU and are 10-2 they are cool because it was out of conference? So committee gives them a pass and a hypothetical 10-2 sip team wouldn't be in? LOL

I guess that means Duke has a great chance to get in this year since they made their conf championship game.


because georgia is actually the number 3 team and they won. they also had a much much much harder schedule.

You start off saying you have to beat bottom dwellers to get in playoffs but then make excuses for Bama's bottom dweller loss. And sips beat OU something Bama couldn't do so the Georgia win/loss kind of cancels each other out. Meanwhile sips beat 3 top teams so schedule pretty comparable.

We are arguing hypothetical but no way does a 10-2 sip team NOT get in the playoffs. (And yes I agree they get preferential treatment. They would be in at 10-2 guaranteed even with loss to Florida.


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jt16 said:

I agree. We're still #7 if we had played Baylor instead of notre dame. Texas would be in if they hadn't played Ohio state


Bama played Florida state and lost. Then lost one tough SEC game. Very comparable to tu.

What is not comparable is they did not lose to a bad SEC team so they are still getting in. Im tired of this Sark argument. Texas is getting punished for losing to Florida and looking like dog **** the first half of the year
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The committee has demonstrated bias in 3 ways:

1). Above all they want variety. They want a variety of teams from across the country and across multiple conferences. And guess what-It's working. TV ratings are up for the overall sport and for the most heavily watched programs like Alabama and Georgia..
2). They obsess over number of losses. You constantly hear so and so is a 2 loss or 1 loss team..Well, did they beat antibody? I would love to see a 2 loss team that played a ridiculous scheduled ranked ahead of an undefeated team that played nobody(kind of like Oregon). So long as the committee obsesses over number of losses-, just play the easiest schedule possible-simple as that
3). Recency bias. This has killed lots of good teams. Georgia was devastated by this in 2023. They were unanimous number 1 all year long and lost one game-the SEC championship and were dropped 6 spots. They would have smoked Michigan that year for their 3rd straight title.
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Jimbo4win said:

The committee has demonstrated bias in 3 ways:

1). Above all they want variety. They want a variety of teams from across the country and across multiple conferences. And guess what-It's working. TV ratings are up for the overall sport and for the most heavily watched programs like Alabama and Georgia..
2). They obsess over number of losses. You constantly hear so and so is a 2 loss or 1 loss team..Well, did they beat antibody? I would love to see a 2 loss team that played a ridiculous scheduled ranked ahead of an undefeated team that played nobody(kind of like Oregon). So long as the committee obsesses over number of losses-, just play the easiest schedule possible-simple as that
3). Recency bias. This has killed lots of good teams. Georgia was devastated by this in 2023. They were unanimous number 1 all year long and lost one game-the SEC championship and were dropped 6 spots. They would have smoked Michigan that year for their 3rd straight title.

2023 I think was the year both Georgia and Texas went 1-1 in their last 2 games but Georgia dropped a crazy amount of spots and Texas went up...lol

Texas ended ranked higher than Georgia with a worse record.
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Onionman said:

TxAgPreacher said:

Onionman said:

TxAgPreacher said:

Onionman said:

TxAgPreacher said:

The lie tu is spinning is they are not in because they scheduled OSU. They are not in cuz they lost to Florida.

There is such a thing as a good loss. Its better to schedule tough, and win or narrowly lose if you take care of the bottom dwellers.(which you have to do anyways to get in)

I disagree.

If they played a cream puff like T Tech, Ole Miss, Indiana or Oregon did then they would be 10-2.

No committee will leave out a 10-2 Texas team even with a horrible loss to FL. (See Bama's even worse loss to FSU).



Bama beat Georgia, and made the championship game so... I disagree.

With a cupake tu doesnt make it 10-2 with a loss to Florida.

So even though Bama loses to a worse team in FSU and are 10-2 they are cool because it was out of conference? So committee gives them a pass and a hypothetical 10-2 sip team wouldn't be in? LOL

I guess that means Duke has a great chance to get in this year since they made their conf championship game.


because georgia is actually the number 3 team and they won. they also had a much much much harder schedule.

You start off saying you have to beat bottom dwellers to get in playoffs but then make excuses for Bama's bottom dweller loss. And sips beat OU something Bama couldn't do so the Georgia win/loss kind of cancels each other out. Meanwhile sips beat 3 top teams so schedule pretty comparable.

We are arguing hypothetical but no way does a 10-2 sip team NOT get in the playoffs. (And yes I agree they get preferential treatment. They would be in at 10-2 guaranteed even with loss to Florida.





The question with this argument is do they get more preferential treatment than Notre Dame and Alabama? Because that is who stands in their way. Texas' TV ratings are not what people think. Last year they had their second best season in 50 years and were 5th nationally wedged in with Florida and Michigan who both had terrible seasons…They are behind a number of SEC programs this year including Tennessee. Does Tenn get preferential treatment? I realize the Big 12 was mismanaged and the hurt is real as Aggies but nobody and I mean nobody overrates Texas' national importance like Texags..
Mr.Milkshake
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We would be 7th right now if we played a high school team instead of ND.

We have the best win of any team above us except Georgia and Indiana. It didn't matter at all.

Just look at tech. They have by far the worst loss and have beaten no one whatsoever. They just have big margin wins against **** teams
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Onionman said:

Jimbo4win said:

The committee has demonstrated bias in 3 ways:

1). Above all they want variety. They want a variety of teams from across the country and across multiple conferences. And guess what-It's working. TV ratings are up for the overall sport and for the most heavily watched programs like Alabama and Georgia..
2). They obsess over number of losses. You constantly hear so and so is a 2 loss or 1 loss team..Well, did they beat antibody? I would love to see a 2 loss team that played a ridiculous scheduled ranked ahead of an undefeated team that played nobody(kind of like Oregon). So long as the committee obsesses over number of losses-, just play the easiest schedule possible-simple as that
3). Recency bias. This has killed lots of good teams. Georgia was devastated by this in 2023. They were unanimous number 1 all year long and lost one game-the SEC championship and were dropped 6 spots. They would have smoked Michigan that year for their 3rd straight title.

2023 I think was the year both Georgia and Texas went 1-1 in their last 2 games but Georgia dropped a crazy amount of spots and Texas went up...lol

Texas ended ranked higher than Georgia with a worse record.


Close-Texas lost to OU in October that year.Alabama lost to Texas in September. Variety and recency bias were both on display. Washington-Pacific Northwest, Texas-Central, Michigan-north, Alabama-Southeast. Georgia had a better resume than all of these teams but got left out because the committee refused to place two teams from the SEC.
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Jeeper79 said:

If we don't play and win ND, we wouldn't even be 7 right now.

We'd still be 7. Beating ND didn't do a damn thing for us. It still had us behind IU the entire time. We were the last 0 loss team and now we're the last 1 loss team (except BYU). So tell. me how beating ND helped. It was the sips this year, but it sure could be us next. I think with the 9 game schedule these games were going anyways. Huge risk, small reward. What sane person would sign up for that?
Detmersdislocatedshoulder
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strength of schedule only matters if they can use it to benefit the teams they want in. they literally give texas as much credit for losing at ohio state as they give us for winning at notre dame.

it's real easy it's all about tv eye balls nothing else matters.
Don Powell
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I think schools should stop putting ND on their schedules. That would force them to join a conference. They lost their first two games then made their way back into the playoff beating no one of any significance. Who's their big win? USC? Give me a break. They are treated with some sort of special preference. Make them join a conference and get rid of their advantage.
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Jimbo4win said:

Onionman said:

Jimbo4win said:

The committee has demonstrated bias in 3 ways:

1). Above all they want variety. They want a variety of teams from across the country and across multiple conferences. And guess what-It's working. TV ratings are up for the overall sport and for the most heavily watched programs like Alabama and Georgia..
2). They obsess over number of losses. You constantly hear so and so is a 2 loss or 1 loss team..Well, did they beat antibody? I would love to see a 2 loss team that played a ridiculous scheduled ranked ahead of an undefeated team that played nobody(kind of like Oregon). So long as the committee obsesses over number of losses-, just play the easiest schedule possible-simple as that
3). Recency bias. This has killed lots of good teams. Georgia was devastated by this in 2023. They were unanimous number 1 all year long and lost one game-the SEC championship and were dropped 6 spots. They would have smoked Michigan that year for their 3rd straight title.

2023 I think was the year both Georgia and Texas went 1-1 in their last 2 games but Georgia dropped a crazy amount of spots and Texas went up...lol

Texas ended ranked higher than Georgia with a worse record.


Close-Texas lost to OU in October that year.Alabama lost to Texas in September. Variety and recency bias were both on display. Washington-Pacific Northwest, Texas-Central, Michigan-north, Alabama-Southeast. Georgia had a better resume than all of these teams but got left out because the committee refused to place two teams from the SEC.


The problem was because Texas and Georgia both had one loss but Texas had beat Bama and Georgia lost to Bama so they got the nod over Georgia. They were't going to put Georgia over Texas regardless of conference. Michigan and Washington were undefeated. It was Florida St who got screwed. If Georgia had won the SEC title it would have been Florida St in, not Texas.
TexasAggie81
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Sparkie said:

W said:

bottomline...cannot lose 3 games
for us, cant lose 2 games


Or go independent and pull a Notre Dame every year.
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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

strength of schedule only matters if they can use it to benefit the teams they want in. they literally give texas as much credit for losing at ohio state as they give us for winning at notre dame.

it's real easy it's all about tv eye balls nothing else matters.

Exactly. But it goes deeper than that. Nobody cares about Texas Tech and no extra eyeballs are being pulled for them. So there's an anti-SEC / anti-A&M bias clearly working in through this committee as well.
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Since the committee's SOS ranking is based on nothing more than opponents' win/loss ratio and opponents' opponents' win/loss ratio, the real question is why schedule a team like Samford. They killed us in SOS.

The sweet spot is scheduling G5 teams that are likely to be at the top of their conference. Beating 11-1 UNT is the same credit as 11-1 UGA, as dumb as that sounds.
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We should schedule ND because just imagine how little respect we would have today without that win. Play good teams and win. It's not that hard.
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So the only team we play with a winning record we lose? Yeah we're missing playoffs if we don't have that notre dame win
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Per Yurachek

"one key stat this week in the teams ranked in our top 15, there's 17 total losses for those teams. Sixteen of those losses came against teams that are currently ranked or have been ranked in our top 25 this year. The only loss to an unranked team was Texas' loss to Florida, and really Florida dominated."
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