And ND's 2026 schedule is no better but probably worse than this year's:

Of the teams they are playing next year, only four have a winning record.

Wisconsin 4-8
Rice 5-7
Michigan State 4-8
Purdue 2-10
North Carolina 4-8
Navy 7-2 Yet to play Army
Miami 10-2
Boston College 2-10
SMU 8-4
Syracuse 3-9
Stanford 4-8
USC 9-3

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Need a monster push for just letting computers rank using objective criteria. That is all we need. We dont need these big decisions being made by people that are not even watching the games.

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Further proof that everything in life comes full circle.
Newsflash..we got away from the computer rankings for a reason.

AggieJ2002 said:

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Note Dame deserves to get the short end of the stick for once

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They can have the long end too

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merch said:

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You realize if you replace Bama with Ags we are out, right?

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Bama is in. If we replace them A&M is still in just sitting at #9 and playing OU instead of Miami. Whats your point?

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If A&M was 10-3 and just got trucked in the title game, we would be out

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So, you're saying the Blue Bloods often receive preferential treatment? Yeah, that's a given.

TheCougarHunter said:

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F em

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Came here to post this.

Every year, some team is going to feel like they got shafted (2020TAMU?). Maybe A&M can lend a shoulder for them to cry on. But whining and throwing a hissy fit isn't going to change things. Nut up. Win your games. Its that simple.

Vanderbilt has a bigger gripe

Nutting up allows the status quo to continue

pointer74 said:

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Vanderbilt has a bigger gripe

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Vanderbilt's problem was losing the 'wrong' games.
If they were 10-2 but beat bama, they would be in over Bama even if their second loss was a 'bad' one.
Bottom line is they got left out because they are Vanderbilt and they didn't beat the talent laden name programs Bama and tu.

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What was the point of that? You want sympathy? Denied. You want to show the world that you're entitled children, I guess?

Edit - wait... is this AI?

As long as the playoffs of the top division of college football has an "invitational" methodology versus a "rule/criteria based" approach, there will always be teams "left out" with a "case".

Set the rules, and then let the teams "earn" a playoff spot.

This will never happen because the TV executives and conferences want to be able to influence the outcome.

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Onionman said:

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What was the point of that? You want sympathy? Denied. You want to show the world that you're entitled children, I guess?

Edit - wait... is this AI?

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Yes. It's AI.

Well dammit. They got me

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merch said:

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Need a monster push for just letting computers rank using objective criteria. That is all we need. We dont need these big decisions being made by people that are not even watching the games.

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Further proof that everything in life comes full circle.
Newsflash..we got away from the computer rankings for a reason.

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Lololol I have ocean view property in New Mexico if you think the "committee" isn't using a computer program

Also they signed a garauntee that ND wouldn't be left out if they're no12 or higher going forward (knowing full well we're expanding to 16 in a year or 2 lol)

Sack up and join a conference! Play a bowl game for your seniors and fans.

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merch said:

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You realize if you replace Bama with Ags we are out, right?

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Bama is in. If we replace them A&M is still in just sitting at #9 and playing OU instead of Miami. Whats your point?

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If A&M was 10-3 and just got trucked in the title game, we would be out

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If A&M was 10-2 with losses to Florida St and OU and wins over Georgia, Vanderbilt, Missouri, and Tennessee AND was the #1 seeded team in the SEC, we would absolutely be IN no matter how bad we lost the SEC championship game. There is no way the SEC is going to allow the top overall seed miss the playoff while playing a game that three other SEC teams that are in the playoff didn't have to play.

Don't let Marcel Reed march down the field on you and despite two huge penalties on the drive, score on you on a last second pass.

If ND wanted to get in over Miami they should have beat them when they had the chance.

**** 'em

Remember 2020?

I don't feel sorry for Notre Dame. it's about time.

If anything, A&M being left out in 2020 added some momentum to expand. Notre dame can hope for the same in a few years while they're sitting and watching this year.

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How the hell is it a travesty that when two teams that have the same record the one that beat the other gets a playoff spot?

Stop and think about what you're saying. Last weeks rankings don't matter.

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Notre Dame was 10th at 6-2 in the 1st week of rankings (Week 10), Miami was 18th. From that point forward, they beat Navy by 39, who tied with Tulane and North Texas atop the AAC, but lost the tiebreaker. Then beat Pitt on the road by 3 TDs after sitting the starters for almost the entire 2nd half and Pitt scoring their only TD on the final play of the game against 3rd stringers. Beat Syracuse by 63. Then stomped Stanford by 29 with backups giving up both TDs in the 4th quarter.

Miami also played great down the stretch against a similar slate of meh teams. But if the committee thought there was 8 spots between them 4-5 weeks ago, nothing Miami did was better than Notre Dame. Certainly not enough for them to gain 8 spots while Notre Dame lost a spot in the same timeframe. This is why I don't like the concept of numbered rankings over simply having a tier system or numerical value like a power ranking. The committee clearly thought Notre Dame was in a tier above Miami, but because teams between them dropped, they felt like they had to give Miami the H2H treatment. H2H should not be THE factor when you have a cluster of 5+ teams with the same record being compared.

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Committee has ND ahead of Miami because it thought they were better.

Then because of a game that should have no bearing at all on ND, pressure from outsiders about their rankings, and a desire to force a conference into the playoff they reverse course. It's like officials changing call for texas when fans delayed game by throwing trash on field.

I get people do not like ND and this isnt about whether they should have been behind Miami in the first place.

This result is unreal. Travesty for the sport.

Need a monster push for just letting computers rank using objective criteria. That is all we need. We dont need these big decisions being made by people that are not even watching the games.

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Hey, nd deserves to get dicked every now and then--they seem to ALWAYS get the benefit of the doubt. If they can't see this, then welcome to life.

I'm Catholic but despise nd as "God detests prideful attitudes and self-exaltation." They are guilty of this and need to go to confession and repent.

Love to see tu and nd in the corner pouting.

Miami was the right call just pour timing

The problem is the 2 group of 5 teams jumping much better teams. It makes a sham of the whole thing.

ND fans are stupid. They are complaining they got snubbed because committee had to put in a representative from a conference. ND doesn't want to join a conference. Maybe join a conference?

It's fantastic all the way around.

ND finally got the short end of the stick, something that NEVER happens.
For Miami/ND...the committee got it right. UM owns the head to head.
ND skipping the bowl in protest, I'm fully supportive of that. With the current format in CFB...non CFP bowl games are pointless

ND screwed themselves. Maybe they will realize the NIL football is passing them up as independents. They do not get the TV rating like back in the day. They have lost their main appeal and value and need to join a conference or shut up.

I do agree. We need a computer algorithm. Take obvious biasedness and corruptness out of this. Computer models are flawed to some degree but I would take it over a committee of idiots any day!

It's kind of funny. They got hosed for once. Just like we got hosed in 2020. Sucks when the shoe is on the other foot, doesn't it?

The other funny thing is, the solution offered by many is "join a conference! if you would have played a conf championship game, you'd be in!" But conferences are seeing that "maybe this conference championship game is just a possible elimination game for one of our viable playoff candidates!" I wouldn't be surprised to see conference championship games go away... just after ND joins one.

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At first the committee came for ND but i was quiet cause...well, it was ND, then....

You get the point. This isnt about ND. Yes, this is a travesty. Just look at it for what it is. It is wrong. One team jumps another when neither team played.

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When two teams have the same record and they played a head to head game that season, the team that won the head to head matchup should be ranked higher. This is not complicated.

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I'm not blaming the committee. I'm blaming ND for playing a soft schedule and losing to the only two strong teams they played.

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But why were they ranked ahead of Miami one week ago. Neither team played this weekend. None of the bowl results should have had ANY bearing on how those two were ranked. Completely arbitrarily Miami got moved above Notre Dame in the last ranking. If the committee thought Miami was better or more deserving, they should have moved them ahead of Notre Dame previously. I have no problem with Notre Dame not making the playoff. I have a huge problem with the fact that the College Playoff Committee is a complete joke and it is a prime example moving Miami ahead of Notre Dame in the last ranking when neither team played a game.

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If Team A beats Team B and Team B beats Team C... and Team C beats Team A... you have 3 teams with little wiggle.

Take out one of the 3 teams (BYU) and now you compare 2 teams.

I can't understand why people can't understand the difference between ranking 3 teams vs ranking 2 teams.

I get that BYU didn't play either team, but the circular logic applies. With 3 teams your comparative view changes when reduced to 2 teams. If BYU wins, they're in the Playoffs.

This misses the point.

This is NOT a debate if Miami should be ahead of ND or not, you can argue both sides.

Last week, taking things into consideration the C had ND ahead of Miami as they have had for weeks. After pressure from outside and other non relevant events, magically the rug gets pulled out. You cant have that.

Maybe next year the C needs to be isolated for last month and a half of season like a jury. This stinks of undue influence and impropriety.

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This misses the point.

This is NOT a debate if Miami should be ahead of ND or not, you can argue both sides.

Last week, taking things into consideration the C had ND ahead of Miami as they have had for weeks. After pressure from outside and other non relevant events, magically the rug gets pulled out. You cant have that.

Maybe next year the C needs to be isolated for last month and a half of season like a jury. This stinks of undue influence and impropriety.

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I just think they need to stop putting out their rankings until after the last week of the regular season. And I don't think there is a both sides argument to a head to head match up. There is a reason that is the very first tie breaker in nearly every rankings system. When you have a 3 team decision among teams with the same record that haven't all played each other, then you move on to other things and rank them accordingly. When you have only two teams to compare and they played each other, head to head result is the only logical thing to use.

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This misses the point.

This is NOT a debate if Miami should be ahead of ND or not, you can argue both sides.

Last week, taking things into consideration the C had ND ahead of Miami as they have had for weeks. After pressure from outside and other non relevant events, magically the rug gets pulled out. You cant have that.

Maybe next year the C needs to be isolated for last month and a half of season like a jury. This stinks of undue influence and impropriety.

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Every week the Committee justified having ND ahead of Miami because they don't use head to head unless those two teams are in the same tranche of teams under consideration during a part of their evaluations. Laughable in itself but when BYU crapped the bed, that fig leaf was ripped away and Miami and ND were head to head. Yurachek had to order the committee members to actually watch (or rewatch) the Miami/ND game before their evaluations. My jaw hit the floor when he said that. The Committee doesn't watch the games? Even short summaries of them?

The committee only used their own rules when it suited them.

ironmanag said:

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The committee only used their own rules when it suited them.

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Water is wet!