The whole 12th Man controversy didn't really stir my blood much until I read this garbage this morning.

http://www.tdn.com/articles/2006/01/29/seahawks/news09.txt

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Football is big in Texas, but apparently not so big that anyone in the Lone Brainstem State bothered opening their myopic eyes....

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Now, lo and behold, when Paul Allen raised the 12th man flag at Qwest Field last Sunday, somebody down south caught a glimpse and immediately thought, "Dang, that there's a friggin' bill-yon-aire runnin' R favorite sayin' up his pole! That ain't right!"

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There's really no need for this to get ugly, Aggie folks. Just back down your lawyers, let us keep the 12th man designation and we won't send Allen down to College Station to buy out your little land-grant university and turn it into the southern branch of his Experience Music Project.

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I'm here to say, right now, we'll give you "Gig'em Aggies" and the whole bonfire deal and we'll keep the 12th man.

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I'm here to say, right now, we'll give you "Gig'em Aggies" and the whole bonfire deal and we'll keep the 12th man.

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What the hell does that mean? They will give us the "bonfire deal". That is crossing the line.

Hahaha **** talk from a Seattle Brokeback Mountaineer.

When did their team even come into existence? Bet it was AFTER our original 12th man--the real world one.

That guy has no idea about what he just did to himself with that article.

His e-mail address is

"Greg Johns can be reached at gjohns@juno.com"

The Gayhawks didn't even exist until 50 YEARS after King Gill suited up to play that game. That's what is laughable.

You know if he'd actually done just a small amount of research he could have avoided a lot of embarrassment.

Typical dumb media.

Email sent.......Class act on his part.

Goes without saying, but hopefully those of us who send him an email remain civil.

I already sent him one, and I did my best not to confirm his stereotypes of all Texans as ignorant rednecks.

Asshat.

Sent! Lets be heard, Ags.

Read the whole article, he is not making fun of the Bonfire tradgedy. In context the column says

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Your administrators have trademarked Aggies, 12th Man, Twelfth Man, 12th Mania, Fightin' Texas Aggie Band, Wrecking Crew, Texas Aggie Bonfire and Gig'em Aggies.

I'm here to say, right now, we'll give you "Gig'em Aggies" and the whole bonfire deal and we'll keep the 12th man.

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I sent him a nice email.

Moron.

If you want to call the third largest university in the nation a "little land-grant university" fine, but that seems like it might be stretching the use of that phrase a bit.

This whole situation is just another instance of the jealousy, dislike, and sometimes out-and-out hatred towards Texans and their grandiose state that people from certain parts of the country have. We're big, we're powerful, we're proud of it, and we don't mind telling you about it, and folks from some states just absolutely detest it.

Just keep your cool folks, and remember that when this Greg Johns fellow goes to bed tonight, he'll be in the state of Washington, and when you go to bed tonight, you will be in the home of the Alamo, NASA, big oil, big cotton, big cattle, Davey Crockett, Sam Houston, and George W. Bush, the only state to have ever functioned as a democratic republic on its own before becoming a part of the United States, and the only territory admitted to the Union on its terms, not the federal government's terms, the Lone Star State of TEXAS.

I wonder if he even realizes what happened to the 'bonfire deal'.

email sent!

Crew07-

I don't think he does, or he would not have said what he did....

Keep your emails civil, folks.

How about we keep 12th Man, Gig 'Em and a tradition of winning football, and they keep rain 10 months of the year, suicides and heroine addiction.

CanyonAg77,

It is his responsibility to know of what he writes. His comment about "the bonfire deal" is unacceptable.

Why be civil?

He told us all to "Take a hike".

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It is his responsibility to know of what he writes.

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agree! example" "...and we'll keep the 12th man."

idiot, you can't keep what you don't own!

What state is Seattle in? They are insignificant. Let them enjoy their 15 min, and then they will fade back to obscurity.

This is what I sent:

"What a pathetic article. It’s a sad day when a bunch of coffee drinking computer geeks feel the need to steal a trademarked name. The only thing original about the Seahawks is the team name about a bird that doesn’t exist. If you can use your imagination to think up a SEA-HAWK (lol) then you can surly think of a NON-TRADEMARKED term like, “The 12th guy from Brokeback Mountain, Home of the Seattle Seatards”. That seems to fit.

The thing about a Trademark, is that if you don’t protect it, you lose it. So, if the Seahawks (lol) don’t “cease and desist”, then you can expect a lawsuit. From reading your lovely opinion about Texas A&M, it is clear that you have no clue about the size and wealth of the University and its alumni. You have no clue as to how passionate all students and former students hold our long held traditions.

You want a legal battle? You got it.

So, when you are out taking your own “Hike”, you might want to start thinking of something new to call the Seahawk fans because we are not going to go away. We will be here long after your team is whipped in the Super Bowl. We won’t go away."

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Greg,

This is an email response to your article about Texas A&M's claim to the 12th man tradition. The seahawks have what, ONE good year, and now they own all patents and trademarks in the world? Typical liberal Hillary loving spew, it is expected from your kind.
If you do something illegal, you will have to pay one way or another. Get ready. Next year when the seahawks go back down to their average season of 6-10 all this will be forgotten except for the money Paul Allen will have spent to yet defend himself again.

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EMAIL SENT. It was a good one too.

WestTxAg06, tell me you're joking about being proud that George W. Bush is from our great state...

“Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule—and both commonly succeed, and are right.”
--H. L. Mencken

You'd think he could be more accomidating to the Aggie side of the story...seeing how their BEST defensive lineman (10 sacks this year) is an Aggie.

Don't put "lol" in an e-mail people. Try not to sound like a 16 year old girl text messaging her friends.

email sent.

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Greg,

Congrats to the 'Seahawk Nation' on a great season. This may, in fact, be your best season since 1922. That's right, it has been 84 years since that great Seahawk '12th man' tradition was born. Ever since then you have proudly plastered the 12th Man name all over 'Death Valley' in an attempt to rally the 'Cascade Crazies' to a frenzied state.

Maybe it is a little ironic that a Paul Allen owned team would be so loose with things such as 'trademarks' and intellectual property, but hey, Seattle doesn't have a chance to celebrate often. There are no WTO summits to crash, no Nirvana concerts to go to, and domed stadiums are falling apart all around you. God forbid Ranier blows and you may not live long enough to see another NFC championship!

So yell 'Sooooouie Hawkies' at the top of your lungs and throw up a touchdown Jesus on the nearest Starbucks - Seattle is at 14 minutes and counting. Enjoy it now, and remember that by next week your pseudo-12th man will go back into hibernation as the first chapter of *snicker* Seattle sports history is written.

You will have plenty of time in the off season to come up with a tradition of your own. I know you can do it, Greg, some things are not for sale!

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SENT!

Let them take it up in litigation. Weve won this battle before and we will win it again.

This guy hit the nail on the head when he said "You see, "Dozenth Man" just doesn't ring our bell. Nor does it fit well on a flag or look particularly sharp on a T-shirt." If you want to know why we are not happy its because we have a trademark that cant be used to move merchandise like this...plain and simple.

as an objective third party, i dont think his bonfire comment was disrespectful at all

also as an objective third party, i think this whole situation is kind of making you all look silly.

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made me laugh.

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You know if he'd actually done just a small amount of research he could have avoided a lot of embarrassment.

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He is trying to generate controversy. When any of you read the article, his publication gets more advertising revenue. He is not embarassed at all.