***Official Houston Astros 2025-26 Offseason Thread***

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tjack16 said:

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Somewhere… Marvin just popped champagne

Marvin's hammering a For Sale sign into Cintron's yard.
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iBrad said:

So the guy responsible for Pena's offensive outburst, getting Jake to be a competent offensive player, and who reunited with Correa to turn his season around loses his job because he couldn't get lineups full of AAA players and nobodies to hit like a major league lineup.


Have you watched our offense the past 2-3 years and the lack of plate discipline or lack of producing with runners in scoring position and less than 2 outs?
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Someone who coaches a more aggressive approach?

Altuve and Diaz need that for sure. /s
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So just to be clear, Cintron is only responsible for the bad things. And who's in the lineup should have no impact on outcomes. It's the hitting coach's job to make anyone succeed. Especially a hitting coach that has produced the best offense in baseball and won a World Series. Is that correct?

And so we chase pitches? So do the Phillies and Blue Jays. I think someone has already pointed out that there's not really a strong correlation between taking pitches and scoring more runs.

Most of this is tongue-in-cheek and just my way of pointing out that replacing Cintron does not guarantee better offensive results. What will, however, is a healthy lineup. If we can avoid the rash of injuries we had this past season, the Astros could hire me and we'd see offensive improvement.

Remember, the Rangers fired their hitting coach in May. How'd that work for them?
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iBrad said:

So just to be clear, Cintron is only responsible for the bad things. And who's in the lineup should have no impact on outcomes. It's the hitting coach's job to make anyone succeed. Especially a hitting coach that has produced the best offense in baseball and won a World Series. Is that correct?

And so we chase pitches? So do the Phillies and Blue Jays. I think someone has already pointed out that there's not really a strong correlation between taking pitches and scoring more runs.

Most of this is tongue-in-cheek and just my way of pointing out that replacing Cintron does not guarantee better offensive results. What will, however, is a healthy lineup. If we can avoid the rash of injuries we had this past season, the Astros could hire me and we'd see offensive improvement.

Remember, the Rangers fired their hitting coach in May. How'd that work for them?



You do realize than when the lineup got healthy, we actually got WORSE
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They immediately got better and we're actually good in July & Aug. However, they declined in Sept and basically had nowhere to go but up after the first 2 months.
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It might have been a hamstring he just popped.

(Don't tell the Astros' medical staff)
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Catchers coach was let go too
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I don't know how much of an impact Cintron and Snitker actually had. In general, I am not that sure any hitting coach has a major impact on just how well a team hits. This feels more like someone's head has to roll after missing the postseason.
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Another 1. He's been in his position since 2015!

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Good
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iBrad said:

So just to be clear, Cintron is only responsible for the bad things. And who's in the lineup should have no impact on outcomes. It's the hitting coach's job to make anyone succeed. Especially a hitting coach that has produced the best offense in baseball and won a World Series. Is that correct?

And so we chase pitches? So do the Phillies and Blue Jays. I think someone has already pointed out that there's not really a strong correlation between taking pitches and scoring more runs.

Most of this is tongue-in-cheek and just my way of pointing out that replacing Cintron does not guarantee better offensive results. What will, however, is a healthy lineup. If we can avoid the rash of injuries we had this past season, the Astros could hire me and we'd see offensive improvement.

Remember, the Rangers fired their hitting coach in May. How'd that work for them?

it's like Kathleen Kennedy and Star Wars. She's responsible only for the bad movies and shows, but not for Andor or Rogue One or the first couple of seasons of the Mandalorian
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Farmer1906 said:

I don't know how much of an impact Cintron and Snitker actually had. In general, I am not that sure any hitting coach has a major impact on just how well a team hits. This feels more like someone's head has to roll after missing the postseason.


At a minimum the hitting coach is scouting pitchers and giving gameplans out to the team. But our team never had a gameplan going into any game. They always looked like they had no clue what the pitcher throws.
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I prefer not to fire the last few guys the nerdy GMs hired. Click brought on Ball in 2022. I think they worked together in TB.
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superaggie73 said:

Farmer1906 said:

I don't know how much of an impact Cintron and Snitker actually had. In general, I am not that sure any hitting coach has a major impact on just how well a team hits. This feels more like someone's head has to roll after missing the postseason.


At a minimum the hitting coach is scouting pitchers and giving gameplans out to the team. But our team never had a gameplan going into any game. They always looked like they had no clue what the pitcher throws.

You don't really believe that, do you? We just got lucky the last decade?
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good!!!
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
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iBrad said:

So the guy responsible for Pena's offensive outburst, getting Jake to be a competent offensive player, and who reunited with Correa to turn his season around loses his job because he couldn't get lineups full of AAA players and nobodies to hit like a major league lineup.


Found Cintron's Texags handle….j/k

So the guy who taught Jake to hit nothing but singles at a marginally higher avg than he used to hit with power? The guy who ruined CW this season? The guy who ruined Yainer? The guy whose veterans got outhit by a bunch of AAAA hitters in June? That guy?

If he is going to get credit for anything good that happened with 2 guys (though Jakes loss of power to go along with his increased average makes it a dubious benefit) then he gets credit for all the bad too. And there was way more bad than good this year in the year over year changes by our hitters.
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Good to see the Stros cleaning house to some degree... we need some fresh blood on the staff and in the front office.
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Look, two things can be true

Cintron did some good things and helped win a few years ago

AND his approach and ideas got stale over the past 3 years resulting in yearly declines


It happens to most coaches. Just because he was good a few years ago doesnt mean he is still good today
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gambochaman said:

Look, two things can be true

Cintron did some good things and helped win a few years ago

AND his approach and ideas got stale over the past 3 years resulting in yearly declines


It happens to most coaches. Just because he was good a few years ago doesnt mean he is still good today

Players also get complacent with the same approach. He can go somewhere else and be successful.
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iBrad said:

So just to be clear, Cintron is only responsible for the bad things. And who's in the lineup should have no impact on outcomes. It's the hitting coach's job to make anyone succeed. Especially a hitting coach that has produced the best offense in baseball and won a World Series. Is that correct?

And so we chase pitches? So do the Phillies and Blue Jays. I think someone has already pointed out that there's not really a strong correlation between taking pitches and scoring more runs.

Most of this is tongue-in-cheek and just my way of pointing out that replacing Cintron does not guarantee better offensive results. What will, however, is a healthy lineup. If we can avoid the rash of injuries we had this past season, the Astros could hire me and we'd see offensive improvement.

Remember, the Rangers fired their hitting coach in May. How'd that work for them?

This is the same argument that amounts to a chicken vs egg discussion. Was our offense in 2017-2022 elite because Cintron was coaching it? Or was it because we had guys like Springer, Tucker, Bregman, Correa, Brantley, Yuli, etc. hitting in it instead of the scrubs we do now. If he can't be held accountable for us sucking now because we lost all those guys, then why does he get credit for 2017-2002 when it was because of the elite hitters?

Bottom line, I am not sure it makes a huge difference who the hitting coach is either. But after watching our 2024 and 2025 offenses flail at pitches with no clue what they are swinging at, when half of Texags can predict the pitch type and location for Yainer's next 3 pitch K, I am ready to see how much of a difference it can make.
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tjack16 said:

carpediem13 said:




Somewhere… Marvin just popped champagne


I rowed my boat to the Newark office this morning, floating on the flood of Yankee tears. Now this?

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Demote Perezchica
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Wait... Are we sure these are actually two different people?
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iBrad said:

So the guy responsible for Pena's offensive outburst, getting Jake to be a competent offensive player, and who reunited with Correa to turn his season around

Objection. Assumes facts not in evidence.
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Ball oversaw Sports Medicine & Performance, so I'm guessing that's why he got the axe.
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TRM said:

Ball oversaw Sports Medicine & Performance, so I'm guessing that's why he got the axe.

What?!?!?! The quac..... errrr.... crack medical team?

Say it ain't so, Joe!
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Seems like Crane gave Dana and Joe one more chance- and some very clear marching orders.
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From an article McTaggart wrote
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The remainder of the Astros' coaching staff is expected to return, though only third-base coach Tony Perezchica and quality assurance coach Jason Bell are currently under contract for next season (Perezchica has two years remaining on his deal). Astros manager Joe Espada will be in the final year of his three-year deal in 2026.
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Perezchica seemed like a major downgrade from windmill. He made some very poor decisions over there at 3B. I hope the OJT period is over.
SECcess12
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Whether its us beating them, or watching them lose, some of my most precious post season memories have been the Yankees lol.

Outside of us winning a WS or ALCS of course.
 
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