***Official Houston Astros 2025-26 Offseason Thread***

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The 2025 Houston Astros season is best summed up by Dr. Ian Malcolm, chaotician and three-time Survivor of various islands or valleys filled with dinosaurs.





It's September 29th, and the Astros' season is over. The last time we had a regular-season season finale that didn't follow with a playoff game was October 2, 2016 also against the Angels. That was 9 years ago. The lineup that day featured the likes of Colin Moran, AJ Reed, Tony Kemp, Tyler White, and Max Stassi. Brady Rodgers got the start. We used 5 pitchers, of who I've heard of one.

That team was a season away from the season every one of us had been waiting our whole lives for. What will our Hometown 9 look like a year from now? It's anyone's guess, but the large consensus around the TexAgs thread is that a lot of change would you us good.


Let's start at the top


Manager: Joe Espada: 2 years, 175-148 record 1 division title, 0-2 playoff record
My personal opinion is that Joe Espada is a p%%#%y until proven otherwise given his refusal to retaliate when our batters kept getting hit. He was a perfect bench coach for Dusty Baker in that he could remember all the players names and what positions they played, as well as reminding Dusty about key in-game decisions like, we're not in the NL anymore and Washington isn't the Senators anymore. He gets along good with the all the players, that this does not a good manager make. He strategizes like he's a high school coach where you get courtesy runners and can bring a pitcher back into the game and it is EXHAUSTING. However, the fear is there that Dana and Crane think Joe got a raw deal because of injuries and will hang around for year 3. If he gets canned, who do we get next?


Hitting Coaches: Alex Cintron and Troy Snitker. The biggest joke is there are 2 of these idiots. I'm sad to post this while they are still employed .I though they'd be fired after the last pitch. The Astros' steady transformation from a team that Billy Beane and Jonah Hill could be proud of to the Local Free Swingers #713 Union was baffling and agonizing during a season in which our offense hit some huge low points. Nobody but Parades and Caratini wanted to work the count and it turned into a billion 9 pitch innings. Get these idiots gone.

The Offense:
4.23 runs per game. A year ago it was 4.60. That equates to 60 fewer runs scored in a season. In theory, you'd like to score more runs as opposed to less.

2025 gave us the revelation of leadoff Jeremy Pena, but only because Altuve's feet hurt. JP missed 37 games hurt but batted .304. In 96 (WHOOP) leadoff games he hit .371 with a .783 OPS.

2025 also saw Jose Altuve play 19 positions and bat 50 different places in the order. The best of those were DH and batting third. He hit .268 with a .484 slugging % as the DH and hit .276 with a .516 SLG hitting third.

So DH / batting third seems like a no-brainer for 2025 except for alll the myriad of questions that come from there.
If Altuve is your DH, who plays 2B?
Don't you ****ing say, Dubon!
**** you!
Is it Ramon Urias?
Is it Isaac Paredes, who becomes the best lard-ass second baseman since Ronnie Belliard?



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Because Correa isn't moving from 3B and Pena is SS and Christian "Deadman" Walker is playing first unless you trade his Sean Berry RBI poser ass, so then Paredes is the choice, but then what are you doing with Urias?
Utility guy who can't really hit?
Uh, sorry buddy, Dubon has that job ON LOCK.

Do you bring Walker back for two more years of fewer HR and RbI but a lot more strikeouts? Does anyone want Diaz and his amazing combo of 20 walks in 567 plate appearance? Cooper Hummell walked 14 times in 104 plate appearances by comparison.

Was Diaz just a product of no more Bregs and Tuck? His average fell 43 points and his slugging fell 24 points after falling 97 to years ago. He also swung at a slider vs. Emanuel Clase that cost a lot of people on Fan Duel.
And that's just the infield.

Because if Altuve is DH, then Yorcelain (thank you) Alvarez has to play left. And if you can get hurt stepping on a flat surface, you don't want to know what horrors await having to run in a field of grass. But if Yordan plays DH, then Altuve is back at 2B certainly not LF please.

Then there's the rest of the OF which you assume as Preppy Jake back in CF with Cam Smith getting the sophomore start in RF after a decent campaign for a 22-year-old. Does Zach Cole become your LF after his 15-game streak with an .880 OPS and a .553 SLG?
Whatever happened Zach Dezenzo?
Was he the secret son of Doug Dascenzo? What do we do with Sanchez who we have for 2 more years? I yelled "JESUS" a lot more this year than normal, but it wasn't because he was going well.


Then there's the pitching staff.


#1 There could be a CBS comedy called "Everyone Hates Framber". It would have a 100 percent market share on TexAgs.
#2 Hunter Brown is 1 or 2 for Cy Young if we could hit
#3 I hope Costanza keeps it going In 2026.
#4 Outside of those guys, all of our other starters when a combined 23-32 or something like that. I had to separate the fact that Ronel Blanco and Ryan Gusto are not the same person. Javier came back from injury and went 2-4. Arrighetti went 1-5. Lance went 2-5. So, not great.
Who will stay, who will go? Can we drive Lance out to a farm somewhere in the country and save $17 million?



The bullpen is,more stable, only injuires wore it down. Between Hader, Okert, Abreu, King, and Sousa you had five guys with ERAs between 2.28-3.01. I'll buy that for a dollar.



So here are my questions 3 for all future posters as we go along.



1) If you could only get rid of Espada OR the hitting coaches who would you choose?



2) Who is your 5-man rotation in 2026 ? (reasonable free agents apply)



3) Who is your starting lineup/defense in 2026? (reasonable free agents apply)



The Golden Age isn't over, it just hit a speed bump!




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EastCoastAgNc
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Fire Joe
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Need 5 stars on the title to be official!
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astros offseason thread in september? what is the world coming to?
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Keep an eye on Mackenzie Gore.

If not Gore, I expect them to trade for a #2 type arm and sign another veteran to add to the rotation.

I'm not sure what they'll do with Christian Walker. There's hope within the organization that after an offseason to reset he can have an improved 2026 - but I don't know if they're going to bank on that. It's possible he would benefit from just having a healthy lineup around him.

Paredes wants a shot at playing second but there's concern about his mobility long term. If they move off Walker, I expect Isaac to be the first baseman in 2026.

They're going to look at every possible avenue to improve the team and I wouldn't really be surprised by anything.

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September offseason threads are the worst
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GOLDEN ERA IS BACK ON THE MENU, BOYS
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Should we be excited about gore? Don't follow the NL at all
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Man you gotta love Paredes and his mentality.

Dude came into ST and busted his ass to play a pretty damn good 3B (way better than anyone expected) before going down. Then busted his ass again going above and beyond to return for the final stretch. Now he's campaigning to play a new position because Correa is blocking 3B.

F-in A man!! This dude's a gamer and we need more gamers on this team.
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1) If you could only get rid of Espada OR the hitting coaches who would you choose?

The hitting coaches every day and twice one game days. Joe's biggest problems were not sticking up for his hitters and not riding the umps more about inconsistent zones. ABS will presumably take care of at least one of those issues more or less.

2) Who is your 5-man rotation in 2026 ? (reasonable free agents apply)
Hunter, Javier, Constanza, LMJ (or FA or some combo of returning TJ victims), Ullola (or some name we have never heard of until the pitching lab got ahold of him)


3) Who is your starting lineup/defense in 2026? (reasonable free agents apply)
SS Pena
LF Yordan
DH Altuve
3B Correa
1B Paredes (or Alonso if we can ditch Walker's salary for a couple of packs of gum in return)
C Caratini
RF Smith/Sanchez
CF Meyers/Cole
2B Urias (or Paredes if Walker stays)
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It's gross that this thread is already here.
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agproducer said:

It's gross that this thread is already here.

It's gross that we had a bunch of early to mid-season winnable games that we gave away because "they didn't matter as much" that likely cost us the post-season, and the guys responsible still have their jobs this far into today.
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Bye Framber. Thanks for the good times (including the no hitter that I was fortunate to see in person). And good luck to whatever team picks you up.
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texasaggie2015 said:

Keep an eye on Mackenzie Gore.

If not Gore, I expect them to trade for a #2 type arm and sign another veteran to add to the rotation.


It's not my money. Give me Gore and Cease.
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He was managing the most injury riddled roster in the MLB, not punting on games. Load management is something done by every single successful franchise.

Joe isn't getting fired. There is zero percent chance that will happen. Getting within 1 game of the post season with the most injured roster in MLB is going to buy him 1 more season, as it should.

Snicker and Cintron are at least realistic possibilities, but if any of you are holding out hope for Espada getting fired you are completely wasting your time, energy, and bandwidth.
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Silent For Too Long said:

He was managing the most injury riddled roster in the MLB, not punting on games. Load management is something done by every single successful franchise.

Joe isn't getting fired. There is zero percent chance that will happen. Getting within 1 game of the post season with the most injured roster in MLB is going to buy him 1 more season, as it should.

Snicker and Cintron are at least realistic possibilities, but if any of you are holding out hope for Espada getting fired you are completely wasting your time, energy, and bandwidth.

I don't know what they plan to do - but there's a well over 0% chance he's not retained.

I would be more surprised if he's retained than if he's let go.
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texasaggie2015 said:

Silent For Too Long said:

He was managing the most injury riddled roster in the MLB, not punting on games. Load management is something done by every single successful franchise.

Joe isn't getting fired. There is zero percent chance that will happen. Getting within 1 game of the post season with the most injured roster in MLB is going to buy him 1 more season, as it should.

Snicker and Cintron are at least realistic possibilities, but if any of you are holding out hope for Espada getting fired you are completely wasting your time, energy, and bandwidth.

I don't know what they plan to do - but there's a well over 0% chance he's not retained.

I would be more surprised if he's retained than if he's let go.

I imagine if they were going to let him go, they would do it before the post mortem tomorrow, right?
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Not just to be a sunshine pumper, but 87-75 is the 16th best season in Astros history. Before the historic run of the past 10 seasons, it would have been a top-10 season in team history.

Considering we also had a historic amount of games lost to injury, I'm not quite ready to give up on the dynasty but we need to re-sign Caratini, replace Framber, at the very least pick up a workhorse SP (or two!) and add an OF/1b LH.

SP

  • Hunter
  • Strong FA (Cease etc)
  • Javier
  • FA innings-eater (prob not Wade Miley but a Miley type)
  • Arighetti/France
Lineup

  • Altuve - 2B
  • Peña - SS
  • Correa - 3B
  • Yordan - DH/LF
  • Paredes - 1B/DH
  • Jesus/Cam Smith - LF/RF
  • Yainer/Caratini - C
  • Jake - CF
  • Christian Walker -1B
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Not necessarily
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texasaggie2015

Is there validity to the rumor that Cease didn't want to come to Houston, or was that unfounded internet chatter?
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This is my wish list. I mentioned it on the other thread, but it went over like a lead balloon.

1) If you could only get rid of Espada OR the hitting coaches who would you choose?

Hitting coaches. The team needs a fresh set of eyes.


2) Who is your 5-man rotation in 2026 ? (reasonable free agents apply)

Brown, Javier, (Free Agent Zach Gallen, Civale or Kopech), Spaghetti, Costanza with Blubaugh in waiting.


3) Who is your starting lineup/defense in 2026? (reasonable free agents apply)

I want to get Kyle Schwarber. His AAV is $25M/yr. If you can get him 3/$85-95M, you do it. The lineup needs pop. He plays OF, but has also spent time at 1B. Unload Walker and Chas. Trade Urias or Dubie.

Lineup:

Pena SS
Schwarber LF/DH
Paredes 1B
Yordan DH
Altuve 2B
Correa 3B
Diaz C
Sanchez/Smith RF (platoon)
Meyers CF

Bench:

Salazar, Urias/Dubie, Cole

We have money coming off the books and a strike looming in 2027. Hopefully, Janek will get better in the minors next year to be ready by 2027 or 2028. Then, you unload Diaz.



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Sex Panther said:

texasaggie2015

Is there validity to the rumor that Cease didn't want to come to Houston, or was that unfounded internet chatter?

It was true when they inquired on him in a previous year but I'm not sure about this time around.

They were also very close to adding Rasmussen from the Rays but that fell apart at the goaline.
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FWIW - Schwarber's days in the outfield (and probably first) are just about behind him.

He's only played a handful of games in the field since the end of 2023.
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texasaggie2015 said:

FWIW - Schwarber's days in the outfield (and probably first) are just about behind him.

He's only played a handful of games in the field since the end of 2023.

That's fair. If that's the case -- he's not a fit. Regardless, this lineup needs someone with pop.

Any chance the Angels would part with Taylor Ward?
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texasaggie2015 said:

FWIW - Schwarber's days in the outfield (and probably first) are just about behind him.

He's only played a handful of games in the field since the end of 2023.

We already have 2 players that should be DHing most of the time. If he can't play 1B reasonably well, not point in paying that much for a guy who will just clog up the DH rotation further.
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Also I'll add this since I've seen his name thrown around a bit over the last week or so...

I don't expect Houston to re-sign Caratini. They like Salazar and that money will likely go towards pitching.
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txags92 said:

texasaggie2015 said:

FWIW - Schwarber's days in the outfield (and probably first) are just about behind him.

He's only played a handful of games in the field since the end of 2023.

We already have 2 players that should be DHing most of the time. If he can't play 1B reasonably well, not point in paying that much for a guy who will just clog up the DH rotation further.

Agree. I thought he was still playing in the field.
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I'm very intrigued by Gore. I wonder what it would take to get him. His numbers weren't earth shattering this year by any means, but dude has talent. I would think Matthews would be in the deal. To me, Blubaugh, Ullola, and Kevin Alvarez are untouchable…maybe even Frye. But I would think they ask for at least 2 of those. Any way Matthews and Janak could be the headliners?
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texasaggie2015 said:

Also I'll add this since I've seen his name thrown around a bit over the last week or so...

I don't expect Houston to re-sign Caratini. They like Salazar and that money will likely go towards pitching.

I like Salazar too, but given the choice between 2025 Caratini and 2025 Diaz, I would keep Caratini.
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The problem with Caratini is he has a lot of chronic issues that keep him from being able to play every day.
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Didn't someone say that their guy on the inside said Yainer is at the top of the "sell" list this offseason? I don't see how that's possible unless they view Salazar as a starter (surely not right?) - and Walker Janek doesn't sound remotely close to being ready
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texasaggie2015 said:

The problem with Caratini is he has a lot of chronic issues that keep him from being able to play every day.

I'd still listen to trade offers for Diaz and be willing to ride with Caratini and Salazar until Janek is ready. I am just not sold on Yainer's ability to read pitches and be the type of hitter than can get fooled and still make contact to foul pitches off. The book on him is out (pitch him breaking stuff outside the zone) and he shows no signs of learning to adapt to how he is being pitched.
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Wasn't me
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Salazar is underrated IMO

Every time he comes up he seems to handle the staff well (even when being assaulted by his A-hole teammate) and seems to handle a bat very well.

He's come up with some timely hits, walks, and RBIs. I think he can be a starter and split time with a backup like Caratini.

He won't blow anyone away with the bat but he'll stay within himself, put the bat on the ball, and not have piss poor ABs. Decent enough for the 8/9 spot.
 
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