Time to sell HDY

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fahraint
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Tell us what your cost average is.....you've made so many poor buy recs....

You should have bought protective puts instead of calls....then you wouldnt be so red....kids can learn
fahraint
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dp

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fahraint
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You call troll....I havent trolled. I posted TA information, and responded to your subsequent childish attacks. Where did I troll?

You say you care about money......I'm surprised you have any left. Down here in the 1's, HDY is interesting again....you could bounce back, and, honestly, I hope you do.

But, I would open your eyes to some of the criticism of HDY, it could be right, I dont know, but it should temper your enthusiasm a bit....you seem to invest with blinders on, discounting completely any potentially negative information out there
thirdcoast
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4 month edit, on a 40+ pg thread. LOL!


fahraint
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You can laugh all you want and pat yourself on the back and think you proved a point.....I edited out other stocks and charts that had nothing to do with HDY. I didnt edit out anything whatsoever about HDY....it's all there.

And, you are still down 80%+.

Yes, all the HDY stuff I left in....none of it is edited out....I left it just for you!

Pride does funny things to people......makes em a little crazy, but then, you're still wet behind the ears

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Clarendon
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I thought you got banned, fahraint. Did you open an account named vanwinkle32? You have lots of 3rd haters on here now to be boyfriends with.






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fahraint
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No, Clarendon, I have never been banned. I replied to you on the other thread......I have never used a sock, dont know Van Winkle, or piag....

Why would I get banned? For posting technical analysis, or for responding to the juvenile rants of TC? I havent trolled on the thread...unless you call responding to an unwarranted attack a troll

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fahraint
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3rd haters....I dont hate 3rd, never did. He attacked for no reason, I responded. Still think HDY is interesting, and am glad he posted it...made some money to boot.

I hope the longs pull it out, including you for that matter
Clarendon
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I am down $3k on this thing and not whining. You can't win them all. I am pretty close to done with these threads. IV is a little above my head to ask questions because those guys live it, but atleast they are civil. The TxAgs HDY threads are like soap operas these days. I have to ask fahraint, is your other sock htownfan?

fahraint
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No Clarendon, I have never used a sock, ever. Honestly, I believe you will get your money back because of the concession, but it could take awhile.

I understand your feelings about message boards....I share them as well. I posted what I thought would be helpful to some of those on the thread, but apparently there are some here who reject TA. That's fine with me...I dont begrudge em, more power to em, it works for me. However, I will respond to unfair or unwarranted attacks when all I was doing was to help.

Best of luck to you

One last thing.....there is someone on the yahoo board who definitely has technical knowledge, and is very negative on HDY and the concession.....you never know if he is just a basher, or if he really knows something. He turned out to be exactly right on Sabu.....it pays to listen to all sides, and then make a judgement all things considered.

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Clarendon
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If we hit 30 i'll buy another car. Otherwise oh well. Seriously, I think this stock is dead money until they start stroking and it may move a little bit or we have an event. It could/will be months. I can't stand reading these threads for months more waiting for 3d, jv, farm out, takeover, whatever.
Clarendon
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Brotron
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Fahraint, just give it a rest. Your posts on the other thread were completely useless. Nothing but blind open ended predictions. No matter what happened after each prediction, you could go back and toot your e-horn and say "see, I was right". You are not the badass you think you are and technical analysis was virtually useless all along with this stock. You seriously come across as a kid who just got a B+ in Finance 341 and thinks he knows it all.

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fahraint
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Clarendon, I hear you.....in the last 12 years of investing, I have been burned more than once by what companies tell me, all the while thinking I have been doing good DD.

At some point I began looking at everything they say with a jaundiced eye....still look, but with healthy skepticism. That is when I began to use TA to help with my trading, and since then have done better.

I wish you the best, and maybe CVX or someone will come in and JV with HDY for a % of the concession!


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fahraint
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Brotron, what you think doesnt mean a damn thing to me. I made one trade, it worked. I made a suggested trade, it would have stopped out. I said if support broke, it would go to 1, which it did. Thats about it....

By the way ahole, where did I ever say, "see I was right"? Or blow the ehorn? Never.

I never gloated, or bragged about anything, and I have enough loss trades over the years that I sure dont think of myself as a "badass".

Other than responding to unwarranted attacks by TC, show me one post where I bragged, gloated, or badassed...just one, ahole.

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technical analysis was virtually useless all along with this stock
actually, HDY is volatile, and quite tradable with TA....good buy point at 1!


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htownfan13
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Fahraint is the only one whk has been right. I love how third dodges the real question. A buy rec was made and you down 80% . Thats as big of a miss as i have seen on this board. The failure to accepy reality amazes me, until I found out third was just a kid. I wonder what we are all down collectively as a group? Could be 6 figures.
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Fahraint, Funny thing is that there is no record of you placing a buy order on your ONE big trade. Show us where you placed an order or let us know a buy was filled?

You made one of your many price predictions and said where you "would" buy. Only AFTER it dipped and spiked did you indicate that you actually had a position with your "time to take profits" post. So maybe you did place a real order with real money, maybe you didn't. You later also made it clear what you "could" have made, "if" price did this, and what you "would" have made if it did "that"......a true texags hindsight paper trading legend!

The FACT that you went back and changed a bunch of your 3-4 month old posts shortly after the Sabu PR doesn't really help your cyber credibility.....how many of your posts did you end up changing? LOL!!!

Only the most successful traders and experienced TA analysts edit 4 month old posts on an anonymous internet thread...how can anyone not laugh at how pathetic a troll you are?

Thanks for the entertainment mister wise elder!
Phat32
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And it was all because of a decision YOU made, not something 3rd did.

For all this ripping on 3rd for being "young", it is all you whiners that need to grow up and accept responsibility for your trades.
piag94
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I dont know what is more pathetic VW being a Piag sock, or VW feeling the need to dig through all my texags posts to "bust" me,
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so going back and looking at posts makes someone pathetic, yet TC, went back 4 months to see if someone edited their posts?

fahraint
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TC, I posted a trade, posted when I sold, it went up higher to be sure, I took profit. Never bragged about it....I posted a suggested trade, one that I didnt execute myself, it stopped out for a loss. Overall, I was ahead on my one trade, and would have given some back on the second. Whether you believe it or not makes zero difference to me.

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Fahraint, Funny thing is that there is no record of you placing a buy order on your ONE big trade. Show us where you placed an order or let us know a buy was filled?


Here it is....that's the best evidence I can offer:

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fahraint
the neckline on the 60 minute H&S is preparing to break...Im a buyer at 3.10 and less


I also posted that there was a lot of air on the chart under 3, and stated that if I were in, I would set a stop just under 3.

If you and Brutron had taken the "useless TA information" above, and applied it, just those 3 alone, you would be in the black, and have 200-300 percent more dollars in your account than you do now, having bought all the way down, and selling other stock to buy calls and putting all your eggs in one basket, and riding it down to 1. So much for "useless TA", if you cant see that, I cant help you....youre like one of those Raelians....

Now that it is in the 1's, you have to decide if you will average down further, and possibly throw more good money after bad, if you have any left.

Personally, I see support at one, but if it breaks, 0.50 is coming your way.

As I've said before, anything I edited out of my posts was other stuff extraneous to HDY, stuff like a silver stock chart, a miner, etc....Every letter of stuff I posted on HDY is all still there for you to view, or anyone else for that matter

What's entertaining to me, is that I never bragged on it....it would never have even come up except for your delusional rants and unwarranted attacks. I only responded when you went on the attack.....that is clear for anybody reading the board to see. Maybe you should do less ranting, and more listening, you might learn something


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thirdcoast
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The troll dimensions on this thread are so dynamic. You have layers of sock trolls within trolls and fahraint traveling back in time to edit troll posts. Adding to another poster's comment- its like merging the scripts of Inception and Butterfly Effect to create the ultimate drama trolligy.

But hey, since anything I post is troll bait anyway, better here than the other thread where there are real investors, with real skin in the game, and real discussions.

Ill try to check in every once in awhile on these silly little trolls.

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piag94
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fah,
I've seen TC's type many times over. Knows the language of the industry, but does not have a handle on something that is even more critical. Your previous post was spot on, yet his response was all about "socks". I do post quite a bit, but with over 15K posts, "socks" aren't important to me. I learned a leason about emotions with KKD when I was short (owned puts) and rode that thing down under $5, BUT I knew it was going BK.....wrong. I was very lucky to make some nice money out of those trades, but everytime someone posted "non-long" types of comments, I would discredit them. TC will learn as he gets older and I do hope him and every other HDY invester good luck.
fahraint
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TC, What you call "troll" posts would have saved you a lot of money.......please keep checking in, and dont confine yourself to the Raelians....too funny, TC goes on the attack, and calls the responses "troll" posts

Speaking of "buys", you stated you made buys all the way down, but, we dont have evidence of that either, maybe you did or didnt....assuming you did buy all the way down, what's the frequency, Kenneth?, or your cost average now? Dont forget to count your losses on the calls you paid for by selling other stock to free up funds.

I would like to know after all the "last best chance" buys you made, what your average is.....


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fahraint
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piag, well said! I know from your posts that you had every good intention, and TC has thin enough skin he goes after anything and everyone who doesnt think like a Raelian. That closemindedness, gambler's mentality, pride, lack of healthy skepticism, and "I'm right youre wrong" attitude will unfortunately lead to further losses, and a life lesson in the graduate school of hard knocks.

I know you arent a troll, neither am I, but what the heck.

Thanks for your posts, I enjoyed them, and learned from them as well! Take care, and I too wish the longs success, even including TC!
thirdcoast
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fahraint
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Go TC, go! Show em what you got!
piag94
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gambler's mentality
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in this casino, I think you need a good bit of that, however, even the best gamblers will tell you the most important piece to the "game" is knowing when to get out...or at least minimize potential loss. HDY is somewhat unique in that you're betting on an all or nothing play. TA is important when dealing with sustainable companies, but HDY doesn't qualify. With that said, it doesn't mean there isn't alot of play in this price range for the daytrader to make a little cash.
fahraint
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I'm curious to see if the "tutes" , as TC calls em, are distributing. A reasonable poster on yahoo is saying the SEC is looking into whether or not insider trading based on the non commercial show occurred, since the share price went to 2 on high volume even before the announcement, and there was a post on IV that was removed leaking the result ahead of time
piag94
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wouldn't surprise me. On these small plays like this, the retail "investor" always is the last to know.
thirdcoast
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Only fahraint could have worded it both ways better.

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the most important piece to the "game" is knowing when to get out...or at least minimize potential loss.

Yep, time to get out. Time to walk away.

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it doesn't mean there isn't alot of play in this price range for the daytrader to make a little cash.


Yep, time to get in. Time to day trade for some cash, price won't stay flat.

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A reasonable poster on yahoo is saying the SEC is looking into whether or not insider trading based on the non commercial show...


I'm sure the SEC is all over HDY, especially if it came from a "reasonable" Yahoo poster.

Time to dump!!!!
Yahoo message board is the beacon of all truth!

piag94
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let me try and be as simple as I possible can...

Do I think HDY is toast?-Yep
Do I think HDY will remain in business for at least 6 months?-Yep
Do I think HDY will run out of money?-Yep
Do I think HDY will get bought?-Yep
Do I think the shareholders of HDY will get nada?-Yep
In the interim, do I think this will make for a great trading stock (just like over the last 6 months or so)?-Yep
Do I think the price movement during this time says anything about the company vs manipulation 101?-Nope

Now turn on your spin machine and start translating.
thirdcoast
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No need to spin, I'll leave that to you when explaining your direct quotes.

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Do I think the shareholders of HDY will get nada?-Yep
"I SAID SHAREHOLDER MIGHT GET SOMETHING."


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Do I think HDY is toast?-Yep
Do I think HDY will get bought?-Yep



I also believe HDY will ultimately be bought, always have. However, my price results in shareholders simply getting something more than they put in.

You believe shareholders will get "nada" AND "something", somewhere around the price of "toast". Yep, simple way to put it.
piag94
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I said I thought they'd get nada, but MIGHT get something. What is wrong with that? It's not playing both sides, it's making a statement as to what the outcomes may be.

How about this ,"HDY shareholders will get little or nothing when the company is sold". Is that good enough for ya?

Why would you pay a premium for a company that is close to being broke and VERY, VERY little promise to find oil. Ain't happening. Mgmt will get some nice coin, but shareholders will get very little.

Now go ahead and feel free to misquote me or cut and paste pieces of my posts to make you look like you're proving a point.
htownfan13
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Third is clearly defensive, I would be to if I made this rec and was down thousands.
Running with the Bulls
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3rd is like arguing with a woman
 
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