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jamey
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Bitmine NAV looking good, 1.16 after today's filing



MaroonStain
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Well....SBET pooped the bed today
jamey
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Yukon Cornelius
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BMNR seems to be the winner. Going to buy more tomorrow morning
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https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2025/07/25/xrp-drops-14-after-usd175m-moved-to-exchange-by-ripple-co-founder-s-wallet

xrp founder dumping.
MaroonStain
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Yukon Cornelius said:

BMNR seems to be the winner. Going to buy more tomorrow morning


SBET board approved $5B additional purchase of ETH. X posts stating the play here is to have BMNR, SBET and keep stacking ETH.

SBET volume versus BMNR is 2x so far this morning.
MaroonStain
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On a similar note, MicroStrategy is changing dba to Strategy if approved ticker will be STRC. Fidelity is offering perpetually preferred stock for ticker change at $101 per.
Yukon Cornelius
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Nice. Let them keep trying to one up each other
AgShaun00
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literally had this conversation yesterday!
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MaroonStain said:

On a similar note, MicroStrategy is changing dba to Strategy if approved ticker will be STRC. Fidelity is offering perpetually preferred stock for ticker change at $101 per.

That's not what's happening, they changed to Strategy in February but kept MSTR. STRC is their newest perpetual preferred stock.

STRC investor presentation
MaroonStain
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@NFLPlayerProps said:

MaroonStain said:

On a similar note, MicroStrategy is changing dba to Strategy if approved ticker will be STRC. Fidelity is offering perpetually preferred stock for ticker change at $101 per.

That's not what's happening, they changed to Strategy in February but kept MSTR. STRC is their newest perpetual preferred stock.

STRC investor presentation


Cool. Thanks
jamey
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jamey
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Yukon Cornelius
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Eth will go nuts after ATH
jamey
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Yukon Cornelius said:

Eth will go nuts after ATH


Need an EU deal or a taco by Aug 1st
jamey
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How does this keep happening and the price doesn't move much much of any

Ive had the same thought in bitcoin


MRB10
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The obvious conclusion is that ETF inflows mean squat when it comes to price movement.
TxAG#2011
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MRB10 said:

The obvious conclusion is that ETF inflows mean squat when it comes to price movement.


Not the case with the Bitcoin ETFs, there was massive correlation.

Eth has seen massive price movement, not sure what yall are talking about.
MRB10
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I'd be really interested to see you prove that this bull run price action is the result of ETF flow activities and not other factors. BTC or ETH.
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TxAG#2011
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MRB10 said:

I'd be really interested to see you prove that this bull run price action is the result of ETF flow activities and not other factors. BTC or ETH.

>BTC ETF launches

>BTC price goes up 3x

>ETH ETF sees massive inflows

>ETH price goes up significantly

I really shouldn't have to explain it any further.
MRB10
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Brilliant!
MRB10
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Let's see if Grok agrees.

The spot prices of Bitcoin (BTC) and Ethereum (ETH) are not 100% correlated with their ETF flows. While ETF flows can influence prices, the relationship is complex and varies over time.

For Bitcoin, statistical analysis shows a moderate correlation between spot ETF flows and price movements, with a correlation coefficient of around 0.30 over 7-day periods, meaning less than 10% of price changes are explained by ETF flows. This correlation has ranged from 0.10 to 0.50 on a rolling 60-day basis, strengthening in recent periods as ETFs became a primary source of new capital in 2024. However, price changes often lead ETF flows rather than the reverse, suggesting flows follow market sentiment more than they drive it.

For Ethereum, the correlation is less studied but appears weaker. ETH ETF inflows are estimated at 20-50% of BTC ETF flows, reflecting lower demand. Posts on X indicate periods where ETH ETF inflows were significant (e.g., $726.6M on July 16, 2025), yet ETH prices have shown greater volatility and less consistent correlation with flows compared to BTC. For instance, ETH dropped ~50% post-BTC halving in April 2024, while BTC rose ~16%, despite both having ETF inflows.

Key factors like market sentiment, regulatory news, and macroeconomic conditions also drive prices, preventing a perfect correlation. Additionally, ETH's supply dynamics (e.g., staking, DeFi) make it more price-sensitive to flows than BTC, but not consistently so.

In summary, while ETF flows provide meaningful context for price trends, neither BTC nor ETH spot prices are 100% correlated with them, with correlations varying and often being led by price movements or external factors.
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It better break all of these very long-term downtrends or it could be that time again.. you know.. when alt coin investors think they are indestructible and going to "catch up" to bitcoin right before reality slaps them down.

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You won't see me putting even $1 into ETH or any other altcoin. But I hope everyone on this thread makes money so I'm rooting for them.
jamey
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@NFLPlayerProps said:

You won't see me putting even $1 into ETH or any other altcoin. But I hope everyone on this thread makes money so I'm rooting for them.


I will invest in flaming bags of dog crap if I think they're at least going up short term and nothing else
TxAG#2011
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MRB10 said:

Let's see if Grok agrees.

The spot prices of Bitcoin (BTC) and Ethereum (ETH) are not 100% correlated with their ETF flows. While ETF flows can influence prices, the relationship is complex and varies over time.

For Bitcoin, statistical analysis shows a moderate correlation between spot ETF flows and price movements, with a correlation coefficient of around 0.30 over 7-day periods, meaning less than 10% of price changes are explained by ETF flows. This correlation has ranged from 0.10 to 0.50 on a rolling 60-day basis, strengthening in recent periods as ETFs became a primary source of new capital in 2024. However, price changes often lead ETF flows rather than the reverse, suggesting flows follow market sentiment more than they drive it.

For Ethereum, the correlation is less studied but appears weaker. ETH ETF inflows are estimated at 20-50% of BTC ETF flows, reflecting lower demand. Posts on X indicate periods where ETH ETF inflows were significant (e.g., $726.6M on July 16, 2025), yet ETH prices have shown greater volatility and less consistent correlation with flows compared to BTC. For instance, ETH dropped ~50% post-BTC halving in April 2024, while BTC rose ~16%, despite both having ETF inflows.

Key factors like market sentiment, regulatory news, and macroeconomic conditions also drive prices, preventing a perfect correlation. Additionally, ETH's supply dynamics (e.g., staking, DeFi) make it more price-sensitive to flows than BTC, but not consistently so.

In summary, while ETF flows provide meaningful context for price trends, neither BTC nor ETH spot prices are 100% correlated with them, with correlations varying and often being led by price movements or external factors.



This is Chatgpt slop isn't it? Didn't even read it
jamey
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BTC / IBIT
1 Month- 10.40% / 8.3
YTD- 25.21% / 25.09
6 Month- 15.81% / 11.16
1 YR- 74.73% / 80.18

Close enough for me considering IBIT is only open during market hours and BTC never closes
Nom de Plume
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This year one of my best friends quit his job so he could cash out his 401k.

Sold his house and started renting so they could use the equity.

Used the 401k taxes he'll owe next year.

Borrowed more against all of it.

100% Bitcoin. I don't know how many, but prly 12-15.

In 10-15 years he's either going to have $100M or be penniless. I guess. ? I'm rooting for him. I want to be part of his posse if he hits it. Lol
Nom de Plume
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I'm in ~1% split between MSTR and BTC. Just to be in the game. I don't have the stones for much more.
jamey
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Double Oaked
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Fake news.

It's a prisoners dilemma. If you own a significant amount of bitcoin, you run a node to verify tx. It's lightweight and there are 50k+ nodes validating transactions. It's a trustless system. There will always be nodes to validate.
Yukon Cornelius
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What if people just dump the btc instead? So the future of btc is having to run nodes at an economic loss to secure your already held btc?
MaroonStain
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Uh oh...$BTC is all smoke and mirrors... <stirring pots>
MRB10
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A raspberry pi is all you need to run a node. The best estimate I can find is a rpi would burn about 44 kWh if run continuously for a year. Call it $5 or less annually if you ran the node all day every day.

The fun thing is that you don't need to run it all day every day. It's very easy to power up, update Bitcoin core to the latest block, and then verify your transaction. You can shut it down until the next time.

Your argument is weak at $5 per year in the worst case scenario.

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