Crypto-trading thread

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Yukon Cornelius
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Yes if approved. How much is the question. I assume they will only be able to stake some percentage of the ETH.
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Yukon Cornelius
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Does that mean you can send blackrock your btc and they will give corresponding shares of ibit?
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Yukon Cornelius said:

Does that mean you can send blackrock your btc and they will give corresponding shares of ibit?


I think the idea is the other way around but perhaps it's 2 way. I rememeber seeing something on this a month or so ago
TxAG#2011
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jamey said:



Is this tax free?
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TxAG#2011 said:

jamey said:



Is this tax free?


No idea but assume it reveals to government you own bitcoin

What i like is to some degree it prevents an ETF from claiming they can cover the actual ETF in bitcoin
Yukon Cornelius
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I would like to do it as an inkind transfer to have option trading on my position
jamey
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Yukon Cornelius said:

I would like to do it as an inkind transfer to have option trading on my position




jamey
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Yukon Cornelius
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Sweet.thanks for sharing. I'll have to figure out how to do that process.
Aggie Hunter
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What is y'all's thoughts (for a dummy) textit coin?

A buddy is trying to get me to buy in.
Yukon Cornelius
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I wouldn't touch it
techno-ag
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jamey said:



Moar legitimacy.
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Leander
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Please stop gambling on these treasury companies. You're playing with fire. Just buy and hold spot crypto.
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techno-ag
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Leander said:

Please stop gambling on these treasury companies. You're playing with fire. Just buy and hold spot crypto.

Recency bias since MSTR worked out so well.
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Leander
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Yes but these are fundamentally different from MSTR. The overwhelming majority are doing equity financing and will dilute their shareholders to 0 over the long term
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Yukon Cornelius
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How so
Leander
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The plan is to continuously raise capital via PIPEs to fund treasury growth. These new shares dilute existing shareholders. In the long run share price will trend downwards as more and more shares are issued despite the treasuries continuing to grow
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Thunderstruck xx
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Leander said:

Please stop gambling on these treasury companies. You're playing with fire. Just buy and hold spot crypto.


Rug pull waiting to happen. Don't want to be left holding the bag.
Double Oaked
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Leander said:

The plan is to continuously raise capital via PIPEs to fund treasury growth. These new shares dilute existing shareholders. In the long run share price will trend downwards as more and more shares are issued despite the treasuries continuing to grow

But that capital is then used to turn around and buy more ETH, increasing the amount of ETH held per share. How is that dilutive?
Yukon Cornelius
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And that's different than MSTR?
Leander
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Double Oaked said:

Leander said:

The plan is to continuously raise capital via PIPEs to fund treasury growth. These new shares dilute existing shareholders. In the long run share price will trend downwards as more and more shares are issued despite the treasuries continuing to grow

But that capital is then used to turn around and buy more ETH, increasing the amount of ETH held per share. How is that dilutive?

It's only not dilutive if ETH appreciates in price at a rate > the rate of dilution.
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Yes. MSTR primarily uses convertible debt, which doesn't guarantee dilution and if dilution does occur, it is years in the future.

These new DATs are relying on PIPEs where the equity is unlocked within weeks of the fundraise. Yes they may switch to debt in the future but we have yet to see them do this.

The investors participating in said PIPEs are only doing so for the chance to quickly dump on retail at a silly premium to NAV.
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Yukon Cornelius
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Thank you for the explanation. I'm going to keep accumulating
Leander
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If you plan to buy more of these, make sure to take a look at some of the altcoin DATs please
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Yukon Cornelius
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Not sure what those. I'm using cash secured puts to acquire BMNR. Premiums are nutty so it reduces my cost bias significantly. (If I get assigned which I hope I do) strike is 35 expired August. I think Tom Lee is building a powerhouse. I can sustain the risk
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another reminder to get your SATS in cold storage multisig
Thunderstruck xx
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Bag said:



another reminder to get your SATS in cold storage multisig


That guy is either a huge idiot or his whole story is a scam designed to get money donated to him.
MRB10
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Dude disobeyed the cardinal rule of Bitcoin and now wants charity. I got scammed out of about $8,000 worth of ERC20 tokens back in 2020… who wants to donate to help me buy it back?
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Leander said:

Yes but these are fundamentally different from MSTR. The overwhelming majority are doing equity financing and will dilute their shareholders to 0 over the long term


Adding to this, another thing that's much different about MSTR is the enormous head start they have. They own ~3% of the entire supply of BTC. $74B BTC vs $8B debt. Their balance sheet could withstand BTC going to $20k and staying there for several years at this point.
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Maybe both. If he's been in BTC since 2017 and STILL left his bag on a platform he's an idiot. I'm wondering if this really even happened or if he's just running his own Go Fund Me to take advantage of others. Sketchy
People think I'm an idiot or something, because all I do is cut lawns for a living.
Yukon Cornelius
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https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/31/sec-debuts-project-crypto-to-bring-us-financial-markets-on-chain.html

SEC will explore moving the entire stock market to onchain.

This will be good to keep an eye on if they announce in the coming months any particular blockchains. We do know however it won't be Bitcoin because maxipads killed any and all innovation on it sadly. This is how eth flips btc if ethereum becomes the defacto chain. Which I think is likely.

Also in before cardonzo bull posts lol
LatinAggie1997
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"Cardanzo"- should warn folks that he listens to people that bash Cardano as an agenda.
Cardano has the best chance to be BTC defi.
UTXO and eUTXO make it easier and simpler, plus Cardano is secure and reliable unlike Ethereum.

If you took your head out of somewhere, you would see that Eth hmis trying to turn itself into Cardano.
1. Proof of Stake
2. Liquid staking, no hold period.
3. UTO model - redesign
4. More to come as soon Vitalik realizes more Cardano advantages, which were built on day one.
Thunderstruck xx
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ETH is becoming too big for its britches, and they're running out of material to patch the rips.

ADA has been carefully growing to be just the right size for its britches, and then it can get new britches if needed since that was the plan all along.
Leander
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Thunderstruck xx said:

ETH is becoming too big for its britches, and they're running out of material to patch the rips.

ADA has been carefully growing to be just the right size for its britches, and then it can get new britches if needed since that was the plan all along.
Leander
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