Advice for a new investor?

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chris1515 said:

For someone starting on their financial journey, I'd suggest getting a cash back credit card with no annual fee, put everything on it and pay it off each month. Nothing at all bad about that. Boosts the credit score, is convenient, and puts money in your pocket.


This is a great suggestion. I did that as well but back then there was no cash back (mid 90s). Key is to pay off every month on auto pay.
JohnClark929
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You seem to be on the right track. Congrats.

I recommend you read The Psychology of Money by Morgan Housel.

I have been investing for almost 40 years and have seen a lot of investors make poor costly decisions based on greed, fear, bias, dogma, and paranoia. Be careful with easy narratives; those are always popular and ultimately costly. If you get your psychology right, you will be better than most investors including many in this forum.
Proposition Joe
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infinity ag said:

RogueAg said:

My belief is that it's a little more nuanced than "avoid debt". My personal advice is to avoid BAD debt. I define bad debt as revolving credit card debt, high interest debt, etc.

It makes little sense to me to buy a car outright in cash (for example) if I can qualify for a 1% interest loan and money market accounts are paying 4-5%.

I agree that paying off CC balances monthly is a must because of the exorbitant rates that exist on cards, and the ability to build good credit over time by paying timely and keeping debt to credit ratio low. This be extension leads to increased credit scores and and the ability to put one's self in the position above. All of this is especially crucial for young people in their 20's.

The right debt can be used to your advantage.

Also definitely agree on starting off with lost cost index funds / ETF's as a great approach.


Why is revolving credit card debt bad if I pay it off every month? It is bad only if you don't pay it off and it accrues big interest and late fees.


If you pay it off every month then it's not revolving.
Proposition Joe
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And I would ultimately whittle down advice to a young person starting to earn to two things:

Pay your credit card(s) in full every month. Car loans, rent too high, etc, etc... Much of it can be bad, but most of it you can get out from under fairly quickly. No one in their 30's or 40's is still trying to recover from a bad car lease or too fancy of an apartment they got in their 20's. But I still know people in their 30's and 40's trying to pay off credit cards they got in their 20's. If you can't pay it off in full, you can't afford to put it on your credit card.

Make a retirement/investment plan. The $$$ amount contributed doesn't matter right now, just the consistency. It doesn't have to be $1000 a month right now, but figure out a %, even small, that it can be right now and stick with it on regular time intervals and make a plan to revisit it every year and increase it.

If you do the former, you'll stay financially above most Americans. If you do the former and latter, you'll find yourself in the top 10% of net worth for Americans by your mid-40's and with some smart decisions the top 5%.

That's it. Those are the two main keys to financial success.
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People telling you to blow all of this money should be summarily ignored.

Find a balance as someone else said. You can still have some fun while saving at least some of the money in case you need it. You have no idea what your future holds. You might need some money for something you can't see yet.
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Cant pound the table hard enough on this, and congrats at your age for wanting to start this! I've honestly thought about trying to figure out a way to teach HS and/or even college kids on this stuff as its not taught in school, instead you have to take 6 years of English! The younger you start the better, even if you have a work 401K start your own Roth IRA, contribute the max allowed each year while you can, it gets harder as life goes on, married, kids ect. Build it now, compounding is a HUGE word. Fidelity you can move funds around if not happy with a certain Fund, they do have IRA Funds that you can designate the year of expected retirement, as example 2060. As you get closer to that date the Fund auto reduces risk on stock market ect. Contribute monthly, when you transfer funds into Fidelity it goes into what I call a "box" (money market acct), after it settles on transfer you can move it into the Roth acct. You can also hold some funds in the "box" to wait for a big market drop (if market drops 10% takes 20% gains to get back to same spot). Market timing is not recommended over monthly adding but it doesnt hurt to have a little set back. Remember, max contribution to this Roth is 7K a year if under 50, so key is to max it out each year. There are others besides Fidelity such as Vanguard that offer the same, was just an example.
GeorgiAg
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100% WWR



Edit, on a serious note, pay off all credit card debt first. No debt but a low interest mortgage. Then index fund as others suggested
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