I'm not connecting the dots…

Why would a roof replacement cost double if has been painted?

BenTheGoodAg said:

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I'm not connecting the dots…

Why would a roof replacement cost double if has been painted?

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Painting shingles has a very high potential for damaging them. There is a reason it's not a thing. There are several things that can result including dislodging of the granules and curling of shingles when paint shrinks. That shingle was past its useful life already, and he just made it a lot worse to intentionally kick it down the road and offload it.

On top of this, the cheap option is latex paint but any paint can create the issue.. It creates a non-breathable coating on the shingles whereby moisture is trapped underneath. When that happens, moisture sits under the shingles and cooks into the decking. That is probably a tar paper underlayment, possibly two layers worth, with CDX plywood decking (assuming based on house age/architecture) at 7/16' if lucky. Tar paper holds water and that water will bake and steam itself in the Texas sun and then that plywood will delaminate.

His roofing price doubles because he may require a complete re-deck when those shingles are removed in order to correct spongy, weak, steamed, delaminated decking.

Hopefully a reputable inspector or roofer catches that and tags it. If someone is willing to cut a corner like that in broad daylight, imagine what they did inside.

Good info, thanks Jason

Damn. That's a first. I mean seriously that is next level horse *****

rilloaggie said:

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I got a house in my hood that's getting the ole flipper special treatment. Today we are painting the shingles…

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Once on the market, go to open house and covertly hide a **** pot of those pictures throughout the house so new owner has a chance at catching before too late

rilloaggie said:

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I got a house in my hood that's getting the ole flipper special treatment. Today we are painting the shingles…

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Home is listed. You can see the paint lines in their photos lol

https://www.har.com/homedetail/12451-deep-spring-ln-houston-tx-77077/3324000

rilloaggie said:

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rilloaggie said:

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I got a house in my hood that's getting the ole flipper special treatment. Today we are painting the shingles…

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Home is listed. You can see the paint lines in their photos lol

https://www.har.com/homedetail/12451-deep-spring-ln-houston-tx-77077/3324000

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Lol. I was just coming here to post the same thing:

https://www.har.com/homedetail/12451-deep-spring-ln-houston-tx-77077/3324000

"The crisp white brick exterior is perfectly complemented by a sleek black roof and window frames, while warm wood accents add depth and contemporary elegance; a lush, manicured lawn and clean concrete walkway lead gracefully to the bold front entry."

I hope whoever puts an offer on that house demands a full roof replacement....and stumbles onto this TexAgs thread.

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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I contacted the real estate agent and he said it was a breathable stain.

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Is he also the same guy flipping the house?

What bothers me most about this is that there are barriers to entry for real estate. It wasn't an "easy" task when I got my license and I thought the process and requirements precluded unethical and immoral behavior.

No way an agent doesn't know this is the wrong way to do this. Between bad roofers and unethical people al the way around, sometimes it's a wonder how we all don't get screwed.

How hard is it for someone to say "no. I won't do it that way. I won't do it cheap. It's not right." It's not that hard.

There is no way the buyers inspector is going to let this slide, I don't think.

rilloaggie said:

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rilloaggie said:

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I got a house in my hood that's getting the ole flipper special treatment. Today we are painting the shingles…

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Home is listed. You can see the paint lines in their photos lol

https://www.har.com/homedetail/12451-deep-spring-ln-houston-tx-77077/3324000

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Rillo, you crashing the open house scheduled for tomorrow?

Pressure to do what, exactly?

Just looked at the price history on Zillow....sold in April listed at $349,900.....now it's being listed at 620,000??? Absolutely insane. Flippers are the bane of existence. I've seen houses list at 3-400k get a facelift and tack on an extra 100-150 for their trouble, but almost doubling the sale price in 4 months is bold. I hope it sits and they lose money on it.

Sea Speed said:

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Pressure to do what, exactly?

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To make sure they disclose it. When I reached out to the realtor, he didn't seem to know what I was talking about until I shared the photo (I probably should have included that info earlier).

Found another really fun one this week. One year old home doing a one year warranty inspeftion. Normally a decent builder. Kind of a different style than we usually see in DFW. Three story SFH about 3000sf. One hvac unit with the three zone mechanical setup (that never works well, even when done correctly.)

Homeowner shared that she has had lots of HVAC issues, including the unit icing over and making it comfortable on all floors was hard/impossible.

The builder's hvac guy told her nothing was wrong, it is just how it works. The hvac guy she hired herself told her it didn't have enough intakr/returns.

I explained how the system worked to her and gave some thoughts on ways to improve comfort. From my quick initial look I agreed it did not have sufficient returns. Then I started looking closer.

Found lots of issues with the install.

Finally, I found the root cause. The inside unit is in a mechanical closet in the very back of the house on the third floor. It is installed vertically on a small raised platform of one 2x4. The return plenum sits beside the unit on the platform. Did not think much of it just looking at it. Then I pulled the filter to look in the return chase.

That revealed the the entire return air system was restricted through a small cut out through a 2x4 that we will generously say is 4x18 inches. So regardless of the number of return vents installed.the system is always going to be starved for air.

Even worse, because of the layout of things, I have no idea how they will be able to fix it.

Sorry, I didn't take a picture of the overall closet.