SEC next year

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Redfishag93
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Bucky…damn. Incredible recruiting job. Pop was a massive surprise and Mgbako staying after performing so well at nba pre draft camp is enormous.

Taking a quick glance, I'm pretty sure the sec is gonna be wide open next year with the Aggies in the hunt.

Auburn-they lose damn near everything…Broome, petitford, cardwell, Kelly etc.

Alabama- they lose spears, nelson, wrightsell…they do have a couple of guards back

Florida- they lose the entirety of the best backcourt in America…Clayton, Martin, Richard. Plus Aberdeen going to Kentucky.

Tennessee - they lose a ton w Ziegler, Lanier, milicic, mashack. I think big guy okpara is back.

Ole miss- Padulla, murrell, brakefield, Murray all seniors.
Malik dia is back.

Texas- they lose nearly everyone w pope and weaver (light skinned dude) back. Tre Johnson, kaluma, tramon mark, sheddrick, Larry all gone

Kentucky- it appears Kentucky loses nearly everyone w otega oweh being the exception.

Now all of these schools are bringing in multiple proven transfers…just like us.

I just don't see any sec teams bringing back multiple, older high level players (like Alabama w spears and Nelson this year). I believe we could seriously make some noise next year which is crazy considering where we were couple months ago

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I expect both Mississippi schools to do well next year. I'd be curious to see how Florida does.
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Redfishag93 said:


Now all of these schools are bringing in multiple proven transfers…just like us.



The SEC did very well bringing in players for the upcoming season. It should be another wild ride in the SEC.

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Bucky proving he can recruit with the best of them.

Now he just has to prove he can win in the SEC.

Definitely already appears to be a better hire than our baseball moves. Hopefully we can right that ship, too.
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Pettiford is coming back FYI
Redfishag93
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Damn, petiford might be the best player in the sec next year.
He looks like an nba player now to me
NyAggie
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Transfer portal, especially in basketball, seems to have made the power conferences even stronger while weakening the mid majors. Mid majors are losing a lot of their top end players to the power conference teams

This year's NCAA's were very chalk heavy
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Who does Arky return?
phorizt
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So far, of the top 200 transfers in the country, 45 are going to SEC schools. Of those top 45 transfers in the SEC, 3 are coming to A&M.
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phorizt said:

So far, of the top 200 transfers in the country, 45 are going to SEC schools. Of those top 45 transfers in the SEC, 3 are coming to A&M.


247 ratings?
Heineken-Ashi
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Projection for next season final standings..

South Carolina: 16-2
LSU: 15-3
Texas: 12-6
Oklahoma: 12-6
Vandy: 10-8
Georgia: 10-8
Arkansas: 10-8
Miss State: 10-8
Missouri: 8-10
Ole Miss: 8-10
Kentucky: 8-10
Texas A&M: 7-11
Tennessee: 6-12
Alabama: 5-13
Florida: 4-14
Auburn: 3-15
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Heineken-Ashi said:

Projection for next season final standings..

South Carolina: 16-2
LSU: 15-3
Texas: 12-6
Oklahoma: 12-6
Vandy: 10-8
Georgia: 10-8
Arkansas: 10-8
Miss State: 10-8
Missouri: 8-10
Ole Miss: 8-10
Kentucky: 8-10
Texas A&M: 7-11
Tennessee: 6-12
Alabama: 5-13
Florida: 4-14
Auburn: 3-15

Maybe it's backwards.
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DallasAggie87 said:

phorizt said:

So far, of the top 200 transfers in the country, 45 are going to SEC schools. Of those top 45 transfers in the SEC, 3 are coming to A&M.


247 ratings?

Top 200 seems like an interesting place to draw the line since our 3rd best transfer is #78 in the country, while our 4th best is #202 and our 5th best is #234 but has the same overall rating as those in the top 200 (according to 247).

Another way to put it is that 29 of the top 100 transfers are going to SEC schools, and 3 of those are ours, which is not too shabby.
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NyAggie said:

Transfer portal, especially in basketball, seems to have made the power conferences even stronger while weakening the mid majors. Mid majors are losing a lot of their top end players to the power conference teams

This year's NCAA's were very chalk heavy


i observed this as well i think this will be an ongoing trend. hard for cinderella to happen when you lose your best player every year to the big boys.
Heineken-Ashi
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On the flip side, going to Eastern Massachusetts Tech for a year after high school is no longer a bad gig. If you're halfway decent, you spend the next year at Middle Tennessee before hopping to SEC for the final two years.
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An L of an Ag said:

Who does Arky return?


Wagner, Brazile, Knox and Richmond are the main holdovers from last year. Lost Thiero to the draft and Fland to the portal. Couple of 5* HS guards and some frontcourt transfers coming in (Pringle from South Carolina and Ewin from Florida State).
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Philon back for Bama
Redfishag93
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I could see a lot of this lineup:

Agee
Mgbako
Griffen
Pop
Lane

That's 5 guys who shoot well from 3…at the same time.
Compare that to Wade and the brick layers union (Andy should have shot more).
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I think college basketball in general is going to be much more wide open next year because the covid players have cycled out. You just lost a much larger than normal class of seniors that were concentrated in high-major programs, which is why I still don't think people should draw long term conclusions from last year's tournament.

But prematurely drawing conclusions is what college sports seems to be based on now. People didn't like the way the CFP played out in the first season so now we're gonna scrap it and come up with something else.
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24601 said:

DallasAggie87 said:

phorizt said:

So far, of the top 200 transfers in the country, 45 are going to SEC schools. Of those top 45 transfers in the SEC, 3 are coming to A&M.


247 ratings?

Top 200 seems like an interesting place to draw the line since our 3rd best transfer is #78 in the country, while our 4th best is #202 and our 5th best is #234 but has the same overall rating as those in the top 200 (according to 247).

Another way to put it is that 29 of the top 100 transfers are going to SEC schools, and 3 of those are ours, which is not too shabby.



The reason I asked is 247 doesn't have a ranking for Federiko or Agee. Both are arguably top 200, so A&M likely has 5.
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bobinator said:

I think college basketball in general is going to be much more wide open next year because the covid players have cycled out.
THANK GOD... across all sports...
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bobinator said:

I think college basketball in general is going to be much more wide open next year because the covid players have cycled out. You just lost a much larger than normal class of seniors that were concentrated in high-major programs, which is why I still don't think people should draw long term conclusions from last year's tournament.

But prematurely drawing conclusions is what college sports seems to be based on now. People didn't like the way the CFP played out in the first season so now we're gonna scrap it and come up with something else.


To be fair, lots of folks (including me) saw what was going to happen with the way the teams were going to be seeded before the season started.

It was pretty obvious that worse teams were going to be seeded before higher than much better ones and that the 5 seed was going to get an easier path than the 1 or 2 seeds
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I mean it was obvious that was going to happen, I figured that was just the price to pay for making conference championship games matter. But now I guess we've decided that was too big a price.
NyAggie
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bobinator said:

I mean it was obvious that was going to happen, I figured that was just the price to pay for making conference championship games matter. But now I guess we've decided that was too big a price.


I think it was

It was ludicrous to have the 5 seed with an easier road than the 1 seed

I'm fine with the auto bids for the champs, but seed them based on ranking. The 1 and 2 seeds will almost always be the sec and big champs

You could even seed just the top 2 conf champs at 1 and 2 , which would almost always be sec and big champs

The games will be better if you do that



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OP, I just saw this and I am not trying to be one of those on here that makes unrealistic or should say, very long shot of being accurate type expectations and then when we fall short of these outrageous and poor expectations, I am burning down the board like all the other cliff jumpers and haters on here.

With all that said, I haven't kept up with most of the other teams and their movements, but just as normally expected I would expect schools that fill in every year after losing big pieces to fill in with studs from the past couple of classes and portal additions. I mean let's look at it.

Bama------Agree they lose a lot but they should be absolutely loaded again. They lose top 3 scorers but return all the next several top scorers. You can't overlook their highly rated transfers in this class with Bethea and bigs in Bol Bowen (6'10") and Williamson (7'0"), not to mention they have a highly ranked G in their HS ranks this cycle as well. They appear to be filthy loaded and should be a top tier SEC team again

Auburn------Broome is huge. It doesn't help their cause about losing Mazara, Kelly and Jones, but it is Auburn and Pearl and they always get the pieces and have so again. Potential studs in Williams-Adams, Magwood and Walker. They got a couple real studs from junior colleges and then they pulled strong in the portal. A proven SEC vet in Murphy from Miss St and then Overton who looks like he could be a stud after showing well at ttech and an appearance in E8 this year and lost by only 6 pts to the eventually national champs in Florida Gators. Lastly, can't forget Hall as a proven stud from UCF as their top scorer and scoring almost 19 per game. That's nothing to take for granted. Auburn loaded up again.

Florida-----despite losing so many pieces as you mentioned, I would still think they very well might be odds on favorite to win the Natty again. There is no doubt they went out to replace those pieces with a top 40 player from the HS ranks and absolutely killing it in the portal with 5* stud in Boogie Fland from Arky and highly rated studs from Ohio and Princeton. It's unbelievable that they have all their bigs returning from that national champ team and yeah, I will say it again, won't surprise me if they make a deep run and possibly another F4 or the finals.

Tenn--------I never count out Rick Barnes. Yeah, he is losing 2 of his top 5 scorers (Lanier, Milicic) which btw, are 2 of his 4 transfer portal pick ups in last cycle (2024). He is bringing in a top 5 nationally ranked player in Ament, good shooter with good size in Evans and a big space eater anchor in Brown when it comes to the HS ranks. Add in excellent portal work with an impact SEC vet in Jaylen Carey from Vandy and a really highly rated .9700 transfer coming from Maryland in Gillespie. Lastly, Amaree Abram who was at one time committed to the Aggies under Buzz is transferring in at the PG spot. Barnes is flat out loaded up again.

old piss---------very intriguing but with Beard and his massive raise, I can't really count him out. He seems to be able to maximize what he has. There is no doubt, other than us, they probably lost more than anybody else. But, he did grab some nice pieces in this 24 cycle and a fairly impressive 25 class. He will have to work hard to get all these pieces to mesh but not as much as us as he does have some returning pieces that are very nice from both of the last 2 cycles both HS prospects and portal additions. I won't count out what Beard can do so I wouldn't just count them out. Less sure of them than the others already listed before.

whorns--------No kidding, everybody is gone. #1 scorer Johnson, #2 scorer Kaluma, #4 scorer Tramon Mark, #5 scorer Shedrick, #7 scorer Kent and #8 scorer Larry. Yeah, no joke, only leaves their #3 scorer in Pope and #6 scorer in Weaver. Those guys are both Guards but it really weird they are in short supply of guards. I mean sure they are getting a portal guy from St Johns with Wilcher but seriously, other than those 3, right now from what I can tell, they have nothing else but forwards and centers. Maybe 1 or 2 of those forwards can play at the 3 but most of them all look to be 4s or 5s. I am sure Sean Miller will find some guards to still add in the portal. I simply think just b/c of the Sean Miller hire and he will do more with less, they should be improved over last year's 6 SEC wins but top of the SEC or even top half, IDK????

Kentucky-----it is Kentucky basketball after all. They literally lose everybody except Oweh, Garrison, Kriisa, Chandler and Noah. No way to make lite here, that is massive. But, as I said, you never know. I mean it is Kentucky Basketball. They absolutely loaded up in both HS ranks (2 guys are 5* guys of course), a strong 4* guy rated .9541 and a Croatian that is very skilled playing overseas. Then, you add in an absurd amount of talent and experience from the portal with 6 members........

Reece Porter 7'1" C from Maryland, rating .8900
Denzel Aberdeen G from Florida, rating .9500
Jayden Quaintance 6'9" 230 C from Zona St, rating .9800
Mouhamed Dioubate 6'7" SF from Bama, rating .9400
Jaland Lowe 6'3" PG from Pitt, rating .9500
Kam Williams 6'8" 190 SF from Tulane, rating .9500

When looking at the previous pieces and then adding in these 10 additions in this 2025 class from both HS and portal, they don't appear to be lacking. We will see what they can do but Pope is new at this but successful so far and acquired enough talent that I would think they should be in that top tier.


I will admit with the piss poor timing and Buzz taking everybody except 1 player, how late we are getting started, I have been impressed with what Bucky has done and been able to put together. There's no way anybody that has real understanding could categorize it as anything less than shocking really.

With all that said, I was originally expecting us to finish last in the SEC but now I am hopeful we might at least pull as many wins as the whorns did this past year with 6. Anything more than that would be great but there will be so many teams ahead of us just b/c of the simple fact that the SEC is for real year after year and this year won't be different. It will be a tough conference if not possibly the toughest once again and it's just so hard to start with 1 player and pull it all together even if you have higher rated talent than we do, just ask Calipari how tough it was last year at Arky and he was dealing with 5* or borderline 5* talent for the most part. I mean really dealing with a 9 player rotation made up of most all either 5* or high 4* studs, he started SEC play 0-5 and ended up at 8-10. The whorns last year made The Dance with 6-12 SEC record so I am hoping we can at least win 6 in the SEC. Anything more and I am extremely happy.
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I was drunk on the maroon kool-aid until I read your post. Thanks for keeping me grounded.
Redfishag93
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Vonjuan,

Dig a little deeper with some of the studs you point out other sec teams are getting, and I'm not sure if they are really studs.

Longhorn transfer Wilcher averaged 8 points last year

Bama- bol Bowen averages 8 points. Williamson had good numbers but small conference. Bethea averaged 7 points

Auburn- Overton 8 points/game

Tennessee- Carey averaged 8 points

Kentucky- their highest rated transfer (.98) quaintance from Az st averaged 9 points a game

What we don't have coming in is the 5 star high school recruits several sec schools have coming in, but most of those guys are not huge impact guys right off the bat. Some are I know such as a petiford.

I'm just saying I don't see a lot of proven stud big conference guys (sears and Nelson or Broome) returning or coming into the sec that averaged like 18 points a game.

A lot of nice looking pieces coming into the sec…just like Bucky has remarkably been able to do.
Redfishag93
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Pop
Mgbako
Griffen
Agee
Hill
Fede

These are all proven, mostly big conference guys, pop being the exception…and he put 25 on us and 27 on #1 KU.
Lane played in a smaller conference but has great numbers
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How is Pop the exception? He's the most proven guy on our roster. By a lot. Question on him is whether he can stay healthy.

It's interesting, we're basically in the opposite situation we were a year ago. We were a team whose chemistry and familiarity were going to give us a big advantage over quite a few SEC teams that were more talented overall.

This year our staff and players are probably going to be walking around the halls with name tags on this summer. There will be other teams with as little roster continuity as us, but I'd be surprised if anyone out there has it coupled with the staff turnover that we have as well.

I imagine most new power five coaches brought most of their coaching staff and at least a few players with them and/or had a few holdover players from the previous staff.
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I was thinking of pop at creighton, but I guess the big east is a big conference.
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For sure, it was definitely better than the ACC last year. Who can keep up with who's in what leagues in a given year but even this new Big East without some of the teams that have left it in recent years is still a power league.
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I'll take 7-11 right now.
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