The best way to intentionally miss a free throw

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Scotts Tot
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…is NOT the straight line fastball.
PJYoung
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Yeah I see guys one arm fast ball screw it up often. Two hands hard off front of rim works for me.
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Just make it! 2.6 seconds to get a 3 is a low low percentage and it is still just a tie of they do.
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jeremy said:

Just make it! 2.6 seconds to get a 3 is a low low percentage and it is still just a tie of they do.


Make it and foul them once they catch the inbounds pass
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It WORKED. The refs blew it.
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the immediate inbound foul up 3 with 6s left was just as bad of a play, gives them the opportunity to force you to make 2 more free throws in exchange for only about a second coming off the clock
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Buckys thought process.
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EliteZags said:

the immediate inbound foul up 3 with 6s left was just as bad of a play, gives them the opportunity to force you to make 2 more free throws in exchange for only about a second coming off the clock


Agree. Why foul right away there?
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Because if he gets by you to mid court he might hit the 3......just like what happened at 0.00? Or you end up fouling him while shooting a 3.
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I think the call was too foul but not that quick is my guess.
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EliteZags
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still don't agree with missing it there, Duke nearly lost a championship that way

Scotts Tot
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The extra second in that clip (3.6 vs 2.6) is a material difference in that situation.
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Why give them .6 sec. When it was .3 ? Why stop the clock after the free throw? Let the 2.7 play out and the game is over. If you want to go back and make a ruling on the ball hitting the rim that's fine. The ball hit the rim and the game should be over.
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also allowed him 4 dribbles up the court, where one pass covers that in half the time, but how insanely ballsy to even allow that opportunity with a championship on the line thought I'd never again see a team do it after that
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Stone44 said:

Why give them .6 sec. When it was .3 ? Why stop the clock after the free throw? Let the 2.7 play out and the game is over. If you want to go back and make a ruling on the ball hitting the rim that's fine. The ball hit the rim and the game should be over.


Others on here pointed out that the Auburn coach had run out onto the court to argue the ball didn't hit the rim and that's why the refs stopped play to review it.

Total BS and their coach should be fined
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I don't understand why guys don't just take a step to the right on the line and shoot it along a line that will hit the side of the rim. Alignment is everything in free throw shooting. Don't change your motion, change your alignment
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BQ_90 said:



Buckys thought process.


Good point about not feeling good about that game going to OT. I have to agree with that. Gives some credence to his decision to miss FT. Just needs better execution
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not sure i agree with Buc's last point. This is texas a&m, where refs will continue to screw you til you lose.
Divining Rod
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Yep, you throw a soft one up there so they have to go up and get the rebound, and get it close to the basket. Don't even contest the rebound, but be in the area so they know they have to go up for it, and then come back down, turn around, and shoot after one a dribble or one short pass.
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When we inbounded the ball to Isaacs, I wanted him to quickly throw the ball high in the air down court and allow the clock to expire while the ball was in the air.

Still, the outcome is what matters.

If this happens again with a Bucky team, I suspect it will be handled differently.

You must admit, however -- that final shot was incredible.
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txag72 said:

Because if he gets by you to mid court he might hit the 3......just like what happened at 0.00? Or you end up fouling him while shooting a 3.

The barn player was 94 feet from the basket with his back turned. Coach em up better and have better strategy coach with 2 more dribbles at that point would have changed the game.
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Stone44 said:

Why give them .6 sec. When it was .3 ? Why stop the clock after the free throw? Let the 2.7 play out and the game is over. If you want to go back and make a ruling on the ball hitting the rim that's fine. The ball hit the rim and the game should be over.

THIS was the issue and I think where the refs made a mistake. This will probably result in some rule changes at the end of the season. Bucky was right, though. Auburn had no timeouts, it takes a second or more to rebound and gain control of the ball and then at that point it would have been a panicked heave attempt from 90 feet away. But because they stopped the clock to check the footage, it gave Auburn an unintentional timeout to draw up and organize a play.
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Without the inadvertent whistle to stop the game / clock it would have played out exactly like it did but the clock going to 0.0 and game over.

There is a much better way to miss a FT. Just ask Buzz Williams, his teams were masters at missing FTs….
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aggiedrjdub said:

Stone44 said:

Why give them .6 sec. When it was .3 ? Why stop the clock after the free throw? Let the 2.7 play out and the game is over. If you want to go back and make a ruling on the ball hitting the rim that's fine. The ball hit the rim and the game should be over.

THIS was the issue and I think where the refs made a mistake. This will probably result in some rule changes at the end of the season. Bucky was right, though. Auburn had no timeouts, it takes a second or more to rebound and gain control of the ball and then at that point it would have been a panicked heave attempt from 90 feet away. But because they stopped the clock to check the footage, it gave Auburn an unintentional timeout to draw up and organize a play.

i know it would be a even more outrage I guess, but they shouldn't blow any whistle when the clock is under 5 seconds unless it's a foul call. let it play out, then review it. They impacted the game last night for sure
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Bucky didn't clarify the early foul with over 5 seconds specifically, but he did reference the new continuation rule as a reason for concern on waiting to foul. This is the update from the rules oversight panel for this season:

Quote:

An offensive player who ends his dribble going toward the basket and absorbs contact from the defense will be permitted to pivot or complete the step the player is on and finish the field goal attempt.


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Ball on fingertips
Method Man
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If you have ever shot a basketball you know you follow through. The ball rolls off your fingers as you start flicking your wrist. His fingers are pointing straight up so unless he has zero follow through which is stupid to even think about the ball is still touching his fingers.
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Method Man said:

If you have ever shot a basketball you know you follow through. The ball rolls off your fingers as you start flicking your wrist. His fingers are pointing straight up so unless he has zero follow through which is stupid to even think about the ball is still touching his fingers.

Getting zapruder film vibes here. Back and to the left. Back and to the left.
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GoodAg Paulie said:

BQ_90 said:



Buckys thought process.


Good point about not feeling good about that game going to OT. I have to agree with that. Gives some credence to his decision to miss FT. Just needs better execution


He needs one of his assistants to help him understand exactly what the continuation rule is in college. You can absolutely still foul with under 5 seconds to go, it just takes some good coaching to make sure your kids know that as soon as the opponent starts to gather you cannot take the foul. You can absolutely foul a ball handler 80 feet from the rim though. And a lot of times coaches will tell the officials before an inbounds pass that their guys are going to foul to ensure that the referee also understands what is going on and doesn't let them play through the intentional contact.

The ending of the Notre Dame game had this situation where the Notre Dame player tried TWICE to intentionally foul on the floor, but for whatever reason the official let it go until then calling a phantom continuation on a made 3 that ended up causing Notre Dame to lose.

Coach's press conference here though sheds a ton of light on why we took the foul so quickly after Isaacs made the 2 free throws with about 6 seconds left. He really didn't think we could wait 2-3 seconds and take the foul around halfcourt. Hopefully as his assistants review the tape with him, they think about how to better manage those last few seconds to minimize the chances of a disaster like we almost saw.

Also... JFC our guys looked confused on what Bucky wanted them to do defensively with 0.6 seconds left. The standard move there is to force the pass into the backcourt and make a guy make an 80 foot heave. Instead we stood there and let them pass it to an unguarded guy at 40 feet from the basket. A tough shot, but much higher percentage than an 80 footer.
Method Man
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Anyone remember Jordan Green fouling on a FT miss rebound 94 feet from the basket to lose the game by one?
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