Napoleon or Grant

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Athanasius
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CHOOSE
YokelRidesAgain
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Grant. I like generals who don't get captured and exiled, OK?
maroon barchetta
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Did Grant meet Bill and Ted?

Didn't think so.

Does Grant have a complex named after him?

No.
Ragoo
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YokelRidesAgain said:

Grant. I like generals who don't get captured and exiled, OK?
or lose
B-1 83
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Mary Ann
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
Mr. Thunderclap McGirthy
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Ginger
In Hoc Signo Vinces
Green2Maroon
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They both won battle after battle after battle. Napoleon probably made a bigger mark on history.
Burdizzo
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Colgate
1990Hullaballoo
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Blackjack
Mr. Thunderclap McGirthy
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Coke
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Gnome Sayin
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Imagine Napoleon with the might of the US Military and what it would accomplish across the globe.
713nervy
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Napoleon's last name is bonerparty lol
IIIHorn
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My choice would be taken for granted.
Aggie97
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Napoleon was a better strategist. Grant won because he had more men. Grant knew the Confederates did not have the resources to replace troops so he just overwhelmed them and took huge losses knowing he could replace his troops and Lee could not
Captain Winky
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The might of the US Military didn't really exist until WWI. Are we saying we can take either general and drop them at any time in history?
Gnome Sayin
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Captain Winky said:

The might of the US Military didn't really exist until WWI. Are we saying we can take either general and drop them at any time in history?

Hell yeah, lets do that.
JR_83
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SNL had a sketch back in the 70s, called "What if?". The question posed was "What if Napoleon had a B-52 at the Battle of Waterloo?" Belushi played Napoleon and Aykroyd played the B-52 pilot, explaining SRAMs to Nappy.
Decay
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What about Hannibal
Vitani
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I came across this analysis years ago where a mathematical formula was used to rate many of the military leaders in history. According to this analysis, Napoleon was the best general in history and it is not even remotely close for second place. This is still a fun debate to have but it is fun to see it quantified.

https://medium.com/data-science/napoleon-was-the-best-general-ever-and-the-math-proves-it-86efed303eeb
wangus12
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Aggie97 said:

Napoleon was a better strategist. Grant won because he had more men. Grant knew the Confederates did not have the resources to replace troops so he just overwhelmed them and took huge losses knowing he could replace his troops and Lee could not

So Grant was a Soviet. That *******
Claude!
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I'll go with Grant, but that may be personal bias speaking.
Anchorhold
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I usually get half chocolate and half strawberry. The vanilla is moo and unnecessary
IIIHorn
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Whatabout Alexander The Mediocre?
PeekingDuck
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Grant had every advantage in the world. All he had to do was just not **** it up. Napoleon is in a different class. Silly question.
Green2Maroon
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Napoleon basically conquered Europe twice. Definitely made some poor decisions like the 1812 Russian campaign, but he made France the master of the European continent.
Burdizzo
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Napoleon is the reason a lot of church baptism and marriage records in Europe can't be found prior to the early 1800s. My cousin learned this when doing genealogy research
Anchorhold
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I would thank the tiny man if that were my case. Ain't nobody want there to be proof of being part french.
maroon barchetta
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Anchorhold said:

I would thank the tiny man if that were my case. Ain't nobody want there to be proof of being part french.



fc2112
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Vitani said:

I came across this analysis years ago where a mathematical formula was used to rate many of the military leaders in history. According to this analysis, Napoleon was the best general in history and it is not even remotely close for second place. This is still a fun debate to have but it is fun to see it quantified.

https://medium.com/data-science/napoleon-was-the-best-general-ever-and-the-math-proves-it-86efed303eeb

Thank you. That article is great.
Vitani
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Glad you found it interesting.

For anyone that wants a quick look, these are the detailed comparisons between Grant and Napoleon. Blue is a victory and red is a defeat.


fc2112
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One of the things quickly discovered in these comparisons is there are some generals who changed history and some who were just at the right place at the right time.

The world would look very different if Napoleon or Alexander the great had not existed. If Grant had not existed, Lincoln would have eventually found another general who was willing to what Grant did - grind the CSA into the ground. The end result would not change
Mr. Thunderclap McGirthy
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All of this is apples to oranges. You could not drop a historical figure into the modern battlefield and expect success.

Ghettysburg battlefield is ~17.75 square miles. It was overseen by career officers.

An E6, 4 to 5 years removed from high school, can oversee a much larger battle space.
In Hoc Signo Vinces
Burdizzo
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fc2112 said:

One of the things quickly discovered in these comparisons is there are some generals who changed history and some who were just at the right place at the right time.

The world would look very different if Napoleon or Alexander the great had not existed. If Grant had not existed, Lincoln would have eventually found another general who was willing to what Grant did - grind the CSA into the ground. The end result would not change


Shelby Foote always said the South never had a chance. The North fought with one hand tied behind their backs and still won decisively.
IIIHorn
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Whatabout Napoleon Dynamite?
Blanco Jimenez
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Ghengis Khan
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