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There have been "many many many similar movies" set in 14th century France, in which two men duel to the death because one is accused of rape, told from the "dueling" perspectives of both the man accused of rape and the woman/victim accusing him, written by two of the most famous movie stars on the planet, who first burst onto the scene by winning the Oscar for Best Original Screenplay, now reunited on both the page and the screen for the first time in decades, directed by one of the most renowned and prolific directors of the past 40+ years?

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No, bad sword play movies with Americans that have terrible accents and ham handed performances.

Maybe this movie will be great…but fresh it ain't.

You and I must have very different definitions of "fresh." Yes, there have been a sh*t ton of movies set during medieval times, but within that genre this is about as fresh as it gets. There's really no deny thing that. It's like a step removed from complaining that a comedy isn't fresh simply because it's yet another comedy. Yet, within the genre, there's always room for new and original, and this looks to be exactly that.

TCTTS said:

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You and I must have very different definitions of "fresh." Yes, there have been a sh*t ton of movies set during medieval times, but within that genre this is about as fresh as it gets. There's really no deny thing that. It's like a step removed from complaining that a comedy isn't fresh simply because it's yet another comedy. Yet, within the genre, there's always room for new and original, and this looks to be exactly that.

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It looks terrible….I hope it turns out great, I'd love to see a great movie…maybe the 3 different points of view is "fresher" but it's been done a ton as well….usually in bad sitcoms.

Affleck and Damon look ridiculous…which is pretty much what would pop into my head every time they would be on screen.

We saw this Thursday night and really enjoyed it. I honestly thought it was about ten times better than Bond. However, it's VERY graphic including several scenes I imagine might cause some people to walk out of the Theatre. I love the way they constructed the movie structure and presentation wise. It's even got some very odd humor- from ol Ben mostly! I highly recommend it.

Right there with you guys. GREAT movie.

It's divided into three chapters/perspectives, and I thought the first one started out somewhat rocky - it's a little too reliant on plot, awkwardly skips ahead in time here and there, and Damon feels a bit out of place at first - but I thought the final two chapters, when the conceit really kicks in, were incredible (and you understand why the first chapter is structured like it is). Then, the end duel that everything is leading to absolutely delivers as well. This being Ridley Scott, it's very Gladiator-esque, but somehow even more brutal.

Speaking of, it's not just a straight period drama and then - boom - some action at the end. There's a decent amount of fighting/battles sprinkled throughout. Not a lot, but enough to keep the movie from being *just* castles and people on horseback. And yeah, it's all quite graphic too. Not overly graphic, but between the blood, the nudity, and the rape itself, it's certainly not for the squeamish.

Lastly, I just have to echo that Affleck is nails and was possibly the highlight for me. The entire cast is good (again, Damon being the weakest, though he still manages to pull it off), but Affleck is so good in what screen time he has, playing a character I've never quite seen him play. He's having a lot of fun, and you can really tell.

Overall, at two-and-a-half hours, it's a long one, but its originality and conceit definitely keeps you engaged. It's currently at 86% on Rotten Tomatoes, and the audience I saw it with applauded at the end. It's just a solid, adult drama, which is something we don't see as much on the big screen in this day and age. To that end, I highly recommend taking advantage of the opportunity.

I saw it today and enjoyed it but I feel like I'll have to watch it again to catch some of the subtleties in each chapter. Going in cold and not knowing much of the history behind the story really added to the suspense.

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Right there with you guys. GREAT movie.

It's divided into three chapters/perspectives, and I thought the first one started out somewhat rocky - it's a little too reliant on plot, awkwardly skips ahead in time here and there, and Damon feels a bit out of place at first - but I thought the final two chapters, when the conceit really kicks in, were incredible (and you understand why the first chapter is structured like it is). Then, the end duel that everything is leading to absolutely delivers as well. This being Ridley Scott, it's very Gladiator-esque, but somehow even more brutal.

Speaking of, it's not just a straight period drama and then - boom - some action at the end. There's a decent amount of fighting/battles sprinkled throughout. Not a lot, but enough to keep the movie from being *just* castles and people on horseback. And yeah, it's all quite graphic too. Not overly graphic, but between the blood, the nudity, and the rape itself, it's certainly not for the squeamish.

Lastly, I just have to echo that Affleck is nails and was possibly the highlight for me. The entire cast is good (again, Damon being the weakest, though he still manages to pull it off), but Affleck is so good in what screen time he has, playing a character I've never quite seen him play. He's having a lot of fun, and you can really tell.

Overall, at two-and-a-half hours, it's a long one, but its originality and conceit definitely keeps you engaged. It's currently at 86% on Rotten Tomatoes, and the audience I saw it with applauded at the end. It's just a solid, adult drama, which is something we don't see as much on the big screen in this day and age. To that end, I highly recommend taking advantage of the opportunity.

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Agree with all of these comments 100%

Can't believe this flopped.

Kingdom of Heaven is a .masterpiece.