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Netflix Raising Prices in U.S. Again, Including First Hike on Ad-Supported Tier https://t.co/kUH8Z52nLV

— Variety (@Variety) January 21, 2025

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Finally ditched Netflix…barely watch it…waste of $$

Netflix is worth the price for Cobra Kai alone.

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Netflix is worth the price for Cobra Kai alone.

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That show is worth $100 a year...?

I remember when seasons of shows were for sale for like $20. Then Netflix came along and you could watch them that way. And then Netflix...wait...

Who said you have to get it for a year?

double aught said:

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Who said you have to get it for a year?

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That's fair.

I know that B/R or sports on MAX full time was never the plan, but having kept it there for a year and now switching it seems tough. Switch happened March 30

BIG CHANGE! #Max No Longer Offers Sports For One Plan!https://t.co/zZmgHwPQ5v pic.twitter.com/2qD8VybRtu

— CFL-TECH (@CFLTech1) April 1, 2025

Fox finally fully steps into streaming.

FOX unveils the name of its new streaming service – FOX One.

It's set to feature all of FOX’s premium news, sports and entertainment programming in one dynamic platform.

🔗: https://t.co/uKSkpmE1En pic.twitter.com/mVHWHgsKDN

— FOX Sports PR (@FOXSportsPR) May 12, 2025

For the first time, cord-cutters and cord-nevers will have live streaming and on-demand access to the full portfolio of FOX brands including FOX News, FOX Business, FOX Weather, FOX Sports, FS1, FS2, BTN, FOX Deportes, FOX Local Stations and the FOX network as well as the option to bundle FOX Nation within one platform.

ESPN's direct to consumer service is expected to launch in time for the NCAA Football season.

After years of anticipation, ESPN’s direct-to-consumer streaming service is about to debut.

Here’s what ESPN has revealed about the app, including price, features, and more ⬇️https://t.co/9rsUl4B20M

— Front Office Sports (@FOS) May 13, 2025

So, if I understand correctly, come fall, one could theoretically drop cable/satellite and now YouTube TV/Hulu/etc as well, and subscribe to JUST these apps to be able to watch every nationally broadcast NFL/college football game?

- ESPN (ABC, ESPN, ACC Network, Big 12, SEC Network)
- FOX One (FOX, Big 10 Network, Big 12)
- Amazon (NFL Thursday Night Football)
- Paramount+ (CBS, Big 10 Game of the Week)
- Peacock (NBC Sunday Night Football)

Granted, NFL Sunday Ticket is exclusive to YouTube TV, but I'm not counting that.

Obviously, it would suck having to navigate between apps, as opposed to having all games on a single cable/streaming service. That, and I've grown so accustomed to YouTube TV's multiview that it would be hard to live without it during the busier times of the year.

But it sounds like every game would at least be available otherwise.

Now, if Apple or Amazon or someone would just create the equivalent of a scrollable "guide," incorporating all the various live content from all the various apps (and add multiview to boot), we'd really be getting somewhere.

TCTTS said:

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So, if I understand correctly, come fall, one could theoretically drop cable/satellite and now YouTube TV/Hulu/etc as well, and subscribe to JUST these apps to be able to watch every nationally broadcast NFL/college football game?

- ESPN (ABC, ESPN, ACC Network, Big 12, SEC Network)
- FOX One (FOX, Big 10 Network, Big 12)
- Amazon (NFL Thursday Night Football)
- Paramount+ (CBS, Big 10 Game of the Week)
- Peacock (NBC Sunday Night Football)

Granted, NFL Sunday Ticket is exclusive to YouTube TV, but I'm not counting that.

Obviously, it would suck having to navigate between apps, as opposed to having all games on a single cable/streaming service. That, and I've grown so accustomed to YouTube TV's multiview that it would be hard to live without it during the busier times of the year.

But it sounds like every game would at least be available otherwise.

Now, if Apple or Amazon or someone would just create the equivalent of a scrollable "guide," incorporating all the various live content from all the various apps (and add multiview to boot), we'd really be getting somewhere.

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But are you really saving anything by having all those services? Plus as mentioned, the headache of navigating between apps to see what you want? I think I'll just keep it simple and stay with YouTube tv.

I wonder what FoxOne will be. Have to think they keep it under $15/month to stay competitive

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- ESPN (ABC, ESPN, ACC Network, Big 12, SEC Network) - $29.99
- FOX One (FOX, Big 10 Network, Big 12) - $?
- Amazon (NFL Thursday Night Football) - $14.99
- Paramount+ (CBS, Big 10 Game of the Week) - $7.99
- Peacock (NBC Sunday Night Football) - $7.99

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Probably not much. I currently subscribe to YouTube TV and a number of apps, but not Paramount+ or Peacock regularly. So, in theory, I'd essentially be dropping my YouTube TV subscription ($83) and replacing it with ESPN ($30), FOX One ($15ish?), Paramount+ ($8), and Peacock ($8) for a savings of $20 per month if not less. But losing a ton of navigation convenience, multiview, and a number of other channels in the process.

So, yeah, definitely not worth it yet.

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Probably not much. I currently subscribe to YouTube TV and a number of apps, but not Paramount+ or Peacock regularly. So, in theory, I'd essentially be dropping my YouTube TV subscription ($83) and replacing it with ESPN ($30), FOX One ($15ish?), Paramount+ ($8), and Peacock ($8) for a savings of $20 per month if not less. But losing a ton of navigation convenience, multiview, and a number of other channels in the process.

So, yeah, definitely not worth it yet.

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Plus you know the ESPN service is going to go up in price. I'll bet it's at least $40-$45 within a couple years.

double aught said:

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At least they're smart enough to recognize that the terrible decision they made was a terrible decision, I guess.

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One step away from it just being HBO again.

TCTTS said:

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So, if I understand correctly, come fall, one could theoretically drop cable/satellite and now YouTube TV/Hulu/etc as well, and subscribe to JUST these apps to be able to watch every nationally broadcast NFL/college football game?

- ESPN (ABC, ESPN, ACC Network, Big 12, SEC Network)
- FOX One (FOX, Big 10 Network, Big 12)
- Amazon (NFL Thursday Night Football)
- Paramount+ (CBS, Big 10 Game of the Week)
- Peacock (NBC Sunday Night Football)

Granted, NFL Sunday Ticket is exclusive to YouTube TV, but I'm not counting that.

Obviously, it would suck having to navigate between apps, as opposed to having all games on a single cable/streaming service. That, and I've grown so accustomed to YouTube TV's multiview that it would be hard to live without it during the busier times of the year.

But it sounds like every game would at least be available otherwise.

Now, if Apple or Amazon or someone would just create the equivalent of a scrollable "guide," incorporating all the various live content from all the various apps (and add multiview to boot), we'd really be getting somewhere.

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If you want the complete NFL season, you will also need Netflix for a bit.
Also, I think ESPN sold TNT some Big 12 and some of the CFP rights, so you'll need HBO Max for the playoffs.


I think it's just easier to buy another TV instead of keep switching between apps.

Here's an early Christmas gift: the NFL is LIVE on Netflix!

Thursday December 25
Cowboys vs. Commanders at 1 PM ET
Lions vs. Vikings at 4:30 PM ET pic.twitter.com/GrrnSV1maY

— Netflix (@netflix) May 14, 2025

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TCTTS said:

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So, if I understand correctly, come fall, one could theoretically drop cable/satellite and now YouTube TV/Hulu/etc as well, and subscribe to JUST these apps to be able to watch every nationally broadcast NFL/college football game?

- ESPN (ABC, ESPN, ACC Network, Big 12, SEC Network)
- FOX One (FOX, Big 10 Network, Big 12)
- Amazon (NFL Thursday Night Football)
- Paramount+ (CBS, Big 10 Game of the Week)
- Peacock (NBC Sunday Night Football)

Granted, NFL Sunday Ticket is exclusive to YouTube TV, but I'm not counting that.

Obviously, it would suck having to navigate between apps, as opposed to having all games on a single cable/streaming service. That, and I've grown so accustomed to YouTube TV's multiview that it would be hard to live without it during the busier times of the year.

But it sounds like every game would at least be available otherwise.

Now, if Apple or Amazon or someone would just create the equivalent of a scrollable "guide," incorporating all the various live content from all the various apps (and add multiview to boot), we'd really be getting somewhere.

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But are you really saving anything by having all those services? Plus as mentioned, the headache of navigating between apps to see what you want? I think I'll just keep it simple and stay with YouTube tv.

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Agree, but even with YTTV or FUBO or any satellite/cable provider, you would still miss out on the Amazon or Netflix games. Plus, I expect there to be at least one streaming only playoff games again.



Regarding saving money, it has been cheaper than the original cable/satellite model that locked you into a two-year commitment, especially when you are able to easily pause or cancel your subscription for months.

Also, I'm guessing when you factor in bundles with other services, most people aren't paying full price for several services or have Black Friday promos.

Also, Youtube has entered the chat for broadcasting the NFL, so I think it could be a big deal that Youtube is streaming their first major US Sport live.

YouTube will air its first exclusive NFL game in week 1 of the 2025 season, and it will present the game for free

YouTube's share of total video consumption in the U.S. is growing, and sports leagues are looking to capitalize pic.twitter.com/y9YAJ38seJ

— Lev Akabas (@LevAkabas) May 14, 2025

Good call. Totally forgot about those.

Not cutting edge, but ESPN was likely going to take over the NFL Network and RedZone channel, which would have been big for the ESPN App.

Also, I think the bigger news would be that the NFL may own 10% of ESPN.

I just would like to be able to watch NFL RedZone without any ESPN "personalities" involved.

🚨 HUGE SPORTS NEWS! 🏈 The NFL is nearing a deal to buy a 10% stake in ESPN! This could give ESPN full control of NFL Network & RedZone, a major boost for its new streaming service. #NFL #ESPN #SportsBiz https://t.co/zigC5rd1Om

— 📺 classic TV and news 📺 (@classicTV2123) July 27, 2025

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That seems odd to me, like a conflict of interest.

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Was thinking the same thing.

Done deal

Blockbuster deal: The NFL & ESPN have reached an agreement that gives ESPN access to RedZone, NFL Network, seven more regular-season games, fantasy football rights, and more — in exchange for equity in ESPN potentially worth billions, per @AndrewMarchand.https://t.co/Rrnk41BZIx pic.twitter.com/dPoxcPSBPD

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) August 1, 2025

Would like to know format for Redzone, and what NFL owning ESPN will mean

Iowaggie said:

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Done deal

Blockbuster deal: The NFL & ESPN have reached an agreement that gives ESPN access to RedZone, NFL Network, seven more regular-season games, fantasy football rights, and more — in exchange for equity in ESPN potentially worth billions, per @AndrewMarchand.https://t.co/Rrnk41BZIx pic.twitter.com/dPoxcPSBPD

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) August 1, 2025

Would like to know format for Redzone, and what NFL owning ESPN will mean

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Don't see how they don't try to push for more airtime/coverage for NFL over other sports.

It's a 10% stake, not complete ownership. NFL has always been the biggest thing on ESPN anyway. If anything, I'm guessing it means ESPN coverage would be even rosier towards the NFL than it already is.

UFC no longer on ESPN but on .... Paramount +

BREAKING: UFC has agreed to a 7-year, $7.7 billion exclusive US media rights deal with Paramount.

All UFC events will stream on Paramount+, with select events also airing on CBS.

Paramount+ won't charge viewers any additional fees, effectively eliminating the PPV model. pic.twitter.com/FiE66Icurj

— Joe Pompliano (@JoePompliano) August 11, 2025

I would have to think that at some point, Paramount will need to figure out how to have subscribers that aren't just churning through free subscriptions 1-2 months at a time.

Mark Shapiro confirms if you get Paramount+ you get the UFC events.

There will not a "UFC tier" as some online have suggested. pic.twitter.com/XMLuQoiy7o

— Jed I. Goodman © (@jedigoodman) August 11, 2025

Seems like the end of ESPN broadcasting any football except NFL. No UFL games. It would be in the best interest of NFL/ESPN to want to broadcast NCAA games as it is essentially NFL's minor league, but only as long as NFL doesn't view NCAA as a competitor.

WWE and UFC are owned by the same company. WWE and ESPN literally just signed a huge deal. I have no idea how all of this will shake out, but it's very confusing from the outside.

I think ESPN knew UFC was on the way out so they went and replaced that with WWE. I don't think TKO was unhappy with ESPN otherwise they wouldnt have let WWE sign with them. It think its just more that the UFC deal was up for bid and Paramount needs SOMETHING to get viewers to sign up and they have tons of cash on hand now that their deal with Skydance is greenlit. I'm not a UFC viewer so it does nothing for me but its not lost on me how huge getting rid of the PPV model is. With their ESPN deal, you had to sign up for ESPN+ AND pay for each PPV event. So this seems like a win for UFC fans. Sure its ANOTHER app to sign up for but they wont be paying for PPVs and chances are UFC was the only reason they had ESPN+.