*** ONE BATTLE AFTER ANOTHER *** (Leonardo DiCaprio, dir. Paul Thomas Anderson)

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It amazes me how many people don't understand that rotten tomatoes is not actually rating the movies themselves, lol.
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GoAgs92 said:

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TCTTS said:



I'm looking forward to this, but father/daughter, stoner, crime thriller does sound like it will NOT be for the general audience. So time will tell how it does. But I'm all in on PTA, all the time.

Since when are PTA movies for a general audience?

I loved the movie. I just saw this discourse, and response a mile away. At least for the last 10 years, what Hollywood and film critics think is cool is not usually what the rest of the world does. I'd say off the top of my head, Maverick and Horror movies are what Americans have gone to the theaters for. Not counting what led up to End Game.
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FL_Ag1998 said:

From that Variety article....

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Variety's Owen Gleiberman raved about the film in his review, calling it a "mesmerizing vision of a police-state America."

"'One Battle After Another' is a movie that taps into the fierce urgency of now; it gives you a chill that's also a wake-up call… while it speaks with a big vision to the danger and anxiety of our moment,
it's also a drama that's totally grounded and relatable," Gleiberman wrote. "'One Battle After Another' is a vision of a society in captivity, but it's a movie that never loses the pulse of its humanity."


Good Lord, I don't think I can roll my eyes any harder.

What does that word salad even mean? I've seen this film and didn't get any of that sense while watching this. I did feel a bit of anxiety when Bob couldn't find a cell phone charger
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Btron said:

Are we entering "Oscar, give it to'em" territory?

is this a glitch in the Texags Matrix? I just said this several pages ago......
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Bot. Flag it
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

Bot. Flag it

done
Thanks. I was like, this sounds like something I would say
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TCTTS said:

Even factoring in marketing (which is a way less consistent percentage from film to film), I still think it could potentially break even. I saw two projections yesterday both saying it could very well do over $200M worldwide theatrically now. Taylor Swift even pimped the hell out of it on Fallon last night, which could give it a small bump too, haha. Throw in all the other revenue streams in conjunction with its award prospects and Warner Bros will absolutely consider this movie a win.


It was $250 million to make including advertising. The box office has to be double that to break even. It's at $140 worldwide right now.

It is a massive flop and won't come close to breaking even.

Hollywood is full of woke, leftist Marxist morons now.

I'm sure it'll win an Oscar.
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those dang woke leftists
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also when did people start adding advertising into calculations.
Production budget is all that was ever talked about until very recently
I only ever see it used to frame a narrative however the person using it wants it.
Logos Stick
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PatAg said:

those dang woke leftists


Yeah, they ruin everything.
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As a Mexican, I co-sign...

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"Warner Bros. refutes Variety's anonymous sources and their uninformed estimates," a studio spokesperson says.

^ Seems this would be worth mentioning as well.

Also...

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"Though the global haul of $140 million is impressive for a film that's original, R rated and nearly three hours long, "One Battle" requires roughly $300 million to break even. That's because Warner Bros. spent more than $130 million on production and $70 million on promotional efforts, and ticket sales are typically split 50-50 between studios and theater operators."

In other words, Logos Stick's "$250 million to make including advertising" claim above was way off (surprise, surprise). But more importantly, multiple box office projections now have the movie doing around $200M worldwide, if not $215M, when all is said and done.

Never mind the fact that theatrical box office isn't a movie's only source of income. And this movie, in particular, will have crazy good legs on digital, all throughout the holidays and the Oscar race, into the spring, never mind its eventual cable run, hotel run, airline run, etc, etc, etc.

This is all, of course, in addition to the numerous Oscars it'll be nominated for and will likely win.

Will it ultimately break even? Probably not. But it's going to come way closer than that clickbait headline suggests, while going on to be valuable for Warner Bros in myriad other ways, in terms of awards, endless replay-ability for years to come based on those awards, and attracting future talent, by proving to be a filmmaker friendly studio that takes big swings like this.

It also doesn't hurt that Warner Bros was the first studio this year to cross $4B in worldwide sales, so they'll be just fine regardless. To that end, these kinds of chances are exactly what the Minecrafts of the world are for.
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That all sounds like Hollywood cope. It's still crazy for a movie with quite a bit of starpower and a ton of marketing and concentrated critical overhyping to do so poorly. But I guess this is what gets you pats on the back out there.
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It's not cope, it's math.

Some of you are going above and beyond to **** all over this movie every chance you get - as if it's your God-given mission - and in the process all kinds of misleading numbers/info are being thrown around. So I'm simply saying, "It's not nearly as bad as you're making it out to be," both financially and, of course, earlier in the thread, narratively.

I'm agreeing that it's probably not going to break even.

But I'm also saying that it's not nearly the disaster being painting here. To say otherwise isn't me making excuses, it's me presenting pertinent info in light of the highly biased smear campaign going on in this thread (which is at least, if not far more, biased than people will inevitably claim I'm being).

Also, again... it's still the lead for Best Picture and numerous other awards at the Oscars, which absolutely counts for something. That kind of recognition matters financially, not just in terms of Hollywood "pats on the back."

But if you guys want to keep cherry-picking misleading info, or quoting intellectual giants/upstanding citizens like Chris Gore and Bret Easton Ellis, go right ahead. I just popped in to speak a bit of truth to nonsense, but I'll let you guys get back to your usual shenanigans now.
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All I know is whatever they spent in marketing was wasted. The marketing budget didn't make it to me until maybe 2 weeks out, and even then without generally following PTA projects I wouldn't have known what I was watching when I did see in the quick trailer commercials. I guess it wasn't heavily pushed in Texas but that was a mistake imo.
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Weird for you to dismiss people widely recognized in your industry and act like they can't possibly know what you know.
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One reason why I love the internet. The Whistle was my favorite part, the funniest part for me in the film and such a small characteristic of Bob to throw in there. It's those little details that made this a fun watch.

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PatAg said:

also when did people start adding advertising into calculations.
Production budget is all that was ever talked about until very recently
I only ever see it used to frame a narrative however the person using it wants it.

Since economics and math were relevant to making business decisions. HTH
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TCTTS said:

It's not cope, it's math.

Some of you are going above and beyond to **** all over this movie every chance you get - as if it's your God-given mission - and in the process all kinds of misleading numbers/info are being thrown around. So I'm simply saying, "It's not nearly as bad as you're making it out to be," both financially and, of course, earlier in the thread, narratively.

I'm agreeing that it's probably not going to break even.

But I'm also saying that it's not nearly the disaster being painting here. To say otherwise isn't me making excuses, it's me presenting pertinent info in light of the highly biased smear campaign going on in this thread (which is at least, if not far more, biased than people will inevitably claim I'm being).

Also, again... it's still the lead for Best Picture and numerous other awards at the Oscars, which absolutely counts for something. That kind of recognition matters financially, not just in terms of Hollywood "pats on the back."

But if you guys want to keep cherry-picking misleading info, or quoting intellectual giants/upstanding citizens like Chris Gore and Bret Easton Ellis, go right ahead. I just popped in to speak a bit of truth to nonsense, but I'll let you guys get back to your usual shenanigans now.

Probably?

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But if you guys want to keep cherry-picking misleading info

What misleading info is that, exactly?

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I just popped in to speak a bit of truth to nonsense

Oh?
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Bunk Moreland said:

All I know is whatever they spent in marketing was wasted. The marketing budget didn't make it to me until maybe 2 weeks out, and even then without generally following PTA projects I wouldn't have known what I was watching when I did see in the quick trailer commercials. I guess it wasn't heavily pushed in Texas but that was a mistake imo.

$70 million
 
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